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Officer Loli

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illusion's last games were a real shit.
but it's very sad that it's a real end for this company, which has a big way since 90s.
RIP
 

Oghenekaro

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All the funding on Roomgirl and other 3d shit, could've been used for KK2 or AA3.

If either of those were the last game, they would've gone out with a bang.
But now, room girl is the final game...and LOL.
 
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nukexdevil

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Not necessarily a negative thing, at least modders can now focus on existing games instead of hopping onto a new one every 6 months.

I can already see people dumping all the assets from the games and creating their own game with them, given that unity games can be extracted and sometimes even launched in the editor again. ScrewThisNoise come on, do something - you have the connections to the modders etc. and all the stuff kinda is there, just needs reassembly. (Or is this, what "Project Railgun" was supposed to be, given that it was advertised with "dispelling illusions"? and iirc you also searched someone that knows C#... sus.)
 
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SquidLord69

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If someone ever goes and rips the assets to make a new Artificial Academy-like game, I'd might even join and help them.

You could take ideas from Hentai High School, and make a systemic, sandbox game quite quickly, I think. No saying it's easy to make such a game perform well, or that actual content doesn't take a lot of effort, but I certainly see a ... market for a open-world sandbox game in that direction.

Even if it were just a 100% HHS clone with the Illusion 3D models just for the scenes, I'd still be down.

Illusion was so close, and they squandered it all.
 
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blulaz

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Well, they're asking to be pirated.

For western market, they tried to put their games on steam, but they cut alot of content (turning KK into KKP) while they put AAA pricetag, so people pay more, for less content. Also they only list a very few of them, and not even include HS, which arguably their most popular release.
You can just torrent a repacked version with all of the content, dlcs, and essential mods with a simple click, free of charge without missing anything, so what's the point in buying?
They didnt utilize steam workshop at all, so, again more reason not to buy there. There are various discord community out there where people can just join and share/download any kind of content there.
In addition, even though H games has been around in steam for a while, it still haven't widely "accepted" yet. Alot of people still doesn't want others to find out that they're been purchasing and playing adult games on their account.

There's also the biggest problem.. Their game fucking SUCKS. KK/HS/HS2 overstay because of their character maker and Studio with incredible mods and community. It's literally GMOD with porn, or MMD for dummies, they're so beginner friendly that anybody can do it given enough patience and time. But regarding their gameplay of the game itself, it's just very bland. If you see their sales on DLsites and such, they got absolutely destroyed by smaller studios such as miconisomi. Simply because miconisomi makes an actual game, while Illusion has only been releasing "rehash" of a broken mess of a game without any new animation, scenes, and actual good gameplay.
They can either do the KISS thing, where they stay dormant and let the community handle the game, or make an actual, fresh new game with an actual gameplay. Instead all the did was waste budget by making garbage like RG over here with prettier graphics as its only selling point.

So yes, piracy took part of it, but mostly it's because of their own poor decision making.
It's pretty sad actually. They just recently announced their 30th anniv and the goods on their site, got a feeling that they doesn't even see their parent company pulling the plug until the last minute.
 

Dan Varkholme

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If someone ever goes and rips the assets to make a new Artificial Academy-like game, I'd might even join and help them.

You could take ideas from Hentai High School, and make a systemic, sandbox game quite quickly, I think. No saying it's easy to make such a game perform well, or that actual content doesn't take a lot of effort, but I certainly see a ... market for a open-world sandbox game in that direction.

Even if it were just a 100% HHS clone with the Illusion 3D models just for the scenes, I'd still be down.

Illusion was so close, and they squandered it all.
Or do an actual sims like game, not like whatever this was
 
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Stromko

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It'll really be a shame if this means the modding community moves on, since the mods were the only thing that kept Illusion games worthwhile in the first place, and could conceivably keep doing so even if the company is kaput.. just having the amount of support for adjusting the gameplay (AKA the positions) in Roomgirls that Honey Select 2 has, or the amount of studio mods and the options that exist in the older Illusion games, plus the increased options for graphical effects (sweat, shaders) that Roomgirls brought, would have made the game worth using for a long time to come. If that never happens the game really is just dead.
 
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MrZack

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Well, they're asking to be pirated.

For western market, they tried to put their games on steam, but they cut alot of content (turning KK into KKP) while they put AAA pricetag, so people pay more, for less content. Also they only list a very few of them, and not even include HS, which arguably their most popular release.
You can just torrent a repacked version with all of the content, dlcs, and essential mods with a simple click, free of charge without missing anything, so what's the point in buying?
They didnt utilize steam workshop at all, so, again more reason not to buy there. There are various discord community out there where people can just join and share/download any kind of content there.
In addition, even though H games has been around in steam for a while, it still haven't widely "accepted" yet. Alot of people still doesn't want others to find out that they're been purchasing and playing adult games on their account.

There's also the biggest problem.. Their game fucking SUCKS. KK/HS/HS2 overstay because of their character maker and Studio with incredible mods and community. It's literally GMOD with porn, or MMD for dummies, they're so beginner friendly that anybody can do it given enough patience and time. But regarding their gameplay of the game itself, it's just very bland. If you see their sales on DLsites and such, they got absolutely destroyed by smaller studios such as miconisomi. Simply because miconisomi makes an actual game, while Illusion has only been releasing "rehash" of a broken mess of a game without any new animation, scenes, and actual good gameplay.
They can either do the KISS thing, where they stay dormant and let the community handle the game, or make an actual, fresh new game with an actual gameplay. Instead all the did was waste budget by making garbage like RG over here with prettier graphics as its only selling point.

So yes, piracy took part of it, but mostly it's because of their own poor decision making.
It's pretty sad actually. They just recently announced their 30th anniv and the goods on their site, got a feeling that they doesn't even see their parent company pulling the plug until the last minute.
Lets not forget the abomination that was Sexy Beach Premium Resort or that weird Visual Novel maker nobody remembers.

It's kinda amazing how long they lasted with those bombs, even their "better" recent titles are pale in comparison to their peak days over a decade ago, like you said they only save because of the character creators, otherwise they're just animation viewers with rarely any gameplay.

It'll really be a shame if this means the modding community moves on, since the mods were the only thing that kept Illusion games worthwhile in the first place, and could conceivably keep doing so even if the company is kaput.. just having the amount of support for adjusting the gameplay (AKA the positions) in Roomgirls that Honey Select 2 has, or the amount of studio mods and the options that exist in the older Illusion games, plus the increased options for graphical effects (sweat, shaders) that Roomgirls brought, would have made the game worth using for a long time to come. If that never happens the game really is just dead.
Doubt the community will go away, now they're even more likely to stay at KK and HS since there's not going to be anything else to move on to, my guess is that Room Girl modding scene is poor because the game itself is poor.
 
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nukexdevil

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Room Girl modding scene is poor because the game itself is poor.
The main issue was compatibility, due to the move from Mono to IL2CPP, not the games quality, which has been bad for illusion since the 2010s.
 

Someone

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Lets not forget the abomination that was Sexy Beach Premium Resort
That to be honest, if played with a modern PC is not too crap, if compared by illusion standards.
The real issue is that the framerate drops and the loading times made that game virtually unplayable. But if you have a PC pumped enough to speed up framerate and loading times it become... enjoyable. Certainly way more than room girl.
 

dkz1181

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Is there like a combination of room girl / life play where the characters actually get it on by themselves and you have the option to watch or interupt??
 

Stromko

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Dec 28, 2018
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Is there like a combination of room girl / life play where the characters actually get it on by themselves and you have the option to watch or interupt??
I think you'd have to go back as far as the Koikatsu games for that, you can use cheats to pump up everyone's horniness and it becomes like a scavenger hunt over the whole map to see who might be boinking who, where, and how. It does have some limitations though: you have to sneak up close to properly watch and the stealth is very random (even the 'player is undetectable' cheat can fail), you don't have any input on what position they choose (there's no sense of directing the action like you'd get from picking two girls in Honey Select 2).

For yuri nerds like myself it's also unfortunate that there's only a grand total of three girl/girl positions, all the threesome positions have zero intimacy between the girls, and once you interrupt and join in there's no further options for yuri shenanigans. I suppose it is much less limited if you enjoy futanari, but then just like all the other Illusion games the futa characters don't make sounds during sex because the game just treats them like a guy even though the futa girls already have voicepacks that are mostly appropriate for whatever action they'd undertake.

It seems like the legacy of Illusion games is they came so close to making absolutely amazing H-games but they just left them kind of unfinished and kept pumping out new ones. Or in this case the company just folds. As things stand now, Roomgirls is just some fancy new graphic effects (with dramatic hardware cost) over just a skeleton of gameplay that connects scenes where character often don't line up right during sex and there's no way to adjust it. A (modded in?) studio mode that lacks a lot of the companion mods we're used to in the older Illusion games like guide objects, nodes, timeline, etc..

The more I think about it the more I'm agreeing with MrZack that this just confirms people will stick with HS2 and Koikatsu since they're already much better supported and there seems to be nothing better on the horizon.
 
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