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I am not even sure its the work of AI. Despite that I am certain they didn't use works of any actual artists to replace older ones.

Still, there is some gut feeling that something is a bit off and thus the picture wasn't made by a human. Something in their expressions, perhaps. But I may be too paranoid after so many bad AI-replacements.
 

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Not too terrible, but not boog either. Weird foot on the 2nd pic, even weirder horsecock on the 3rd, expressions are all over and inconsistent. Previously, Ruksana showed ashamed, but willing expression throught whole scene. Now her face switches expression in each part of the scene, and in the 1st and 3rdshe doesn't show nearly enough emotions.

Another point against the AI-replacements.
 

Gancoek

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What are the chances they going to remake the leveling up system again? As much as I hate it, I hate restarting the game even more.
 

Onahoe

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Oh for fuck's sake the succubus disappeared from my game after I did the chapel quest with the goddess in the forest near the tower
Is there any way to bring her back?
 
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I am not even sure its the work of AI. Despite that I am certain they didn't use works of any actual artists to replace older ones.

Still, there is some gut feeling that something is a bit off and thus the picture wasn't made by a human. Something in their expressions, perhaps. But I may be too paranoid after so many bad AI-replacements.
considering in both the male protag looks like some snotty teen rather than an adult... either way its lol cringe (kind of feel bad for trish there, getting pegged by a de-aged 'hero' who looks like he's either having an anal virgin moment face (old version) or in his emo phase but doesnt have the outfit for it (new version))
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Oh for fuck's sake the succubus disappeared from my game after I did the chapel quest with the goddess in the forest near the tower
Is there any way to bring her back?
You have completed the quest in its entirety? If so, she should return to your party. If you still have some steps left, she would be standing near chapel.

If you did everything and she is just nowhere to be seen, than this is a bug.
 

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considering in both the male protag looks like some snotty teen rather than an adult... either way its lol cringe (kind of feel bad for trish there, getting pegged by a de-aged 'hero' who looks like he's either having an anal virgin moment face (old version) or in his emo phase but doesnt have the outfit for it (new version))
Yeah, both versions are kinda meh. I am honestly surprised though that AI managed to make something good edible.
 
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BaLoNeZE

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In general, I liked the transformation of images using artificial intelligence, but not on all scenes, some could not be touched, as for me. I decided to return the old version of the images from the previous version that I like more. This is purely my opinion, so if anyone needs it, use it. I had to adjust the resolution of the images to the new type of game, it turned out kind of tolerable for me.
 

Argeddon

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not too far into the game yet but yeah, the AI implementation isn't too bad. Some have errors or could be left alone, but still good overall. What may be more worrisome are the bugs. Still like the game tho, very few games here have a breadth of fantasy scenes as wide as this one
 
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kentuckysnowstorm

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This AI uproar confuses me. I get that the "expressiveness" of the scenes has changed, but how focused y'all are on the art changes is... weird. If you don't like it, play an old version or replace the assets with the old ones.

Also, people who hate on AI art and "artists" don't make sense. The art was done for the game. The artist likely has no further say in the pieces already used in the game as they are likely property of the game maker, now. Likely it was part of the agreement that they'd be able to edit whatever art was received if desired or necessary, including cropping to fit, etc.

The weirdos review-bombing really need to go outside. This isn't some artefact or piece of history that needs to be preserved. Dev made a decision to go in a different direction with some of the art. If you don't like it, don't play it. Y'all act like customers who got a bad product when most of you probably aren't even supporting the game financially.
 
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well, from the perspective of someone who thinks that AI art on its own isnt a bad thing, i do think when you end up with inappropriately placed anatomy in a picture, it should be redone till the AI gets it right, especially when you plan to use it in favor of a picture that maybe wasnt the best quality but was at least anatomically correct...

sadly, AI art is prone to screwing up things like body parts or misplacing parts in weird ways... if we can get to a point where AI can concisely and accurately draw what it is supposed to when it is supposed to more often than not then ive no problem at all... but the one's ive seen so far playing the game have problems that make them clearly inferior to the original art... like having a double nose (or a bigger nose layered over a smaller one i guess?)... or a hand in places it doesnt belong... or an upside down vagina... that kind of thing should not be used in favor of the original drawn art... they should have had the AI redraw till its more accurate or kept the old art. i can deal with slightly misshaped fingers and toes, but major body parts is... yeah that looks weird lol...

that said, you are correct, im not paying for this product, so i consider my opinion a mute issue and just my own personal standard... the dev clearly felt differently and that is their prerogative i suppose...

anyways, sorry for the text wall, just wanted to say clearly that for me at least, AI art isnt the problem, its the lack of quality assurance on the art that bugs me personally... (but considering how this game is bug riddled and now been stat squished with a pay to win stat system... really, the art is a small thing in comparison lol)
 
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considering in both the male protag looks like some snotty teen rather than an adult... either way its lol cringe (kind of feel bad for trish there, getting pegged by a de-aged 'hero' who looks like he's either having an anal virgin moment face (old version) or in his emo phase but doesnt have the outfit for it (new version))
I mean, the mc should be around 18, or so various origins imply
 

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This AI uproar confuses me. I get that the "expressiveness" of the scenes has changed, but how focused y'all are on the art changes is... weird. If you don't like it, play an old version or replace the assets with the old ones.
That's exactly what many are doing right now, so this was unnecessary. And art is a matter of taste. What's ugly for some might be to others' liking, and vice versa.

Also, people who hate on AI art and "artists" don't make sense.
Again, matter of taste. Art is subjective regardless if its for a porn game or any form whatsoever. AI imagery on the other hand is a tricky subject to touch upon, mainly since it involves ethics and arguments regarding its process and ownership.

The art was done for the game. The artist likely has no further say in the pieces already used in the game as they are likely property of the game maker, now. Likely it was part of the agreement that they'd be able to edit whatever art was received if desired or necessary, including cropping to fit, etc.
Fair.

The weirdos review-bombing really need to go outside. This isn't some artefact or piece of history that needs to be preserved. Dev made a decision to go in a different direction with some of the art. If you don't like it, don't play it. Y'all act like customers who got a bad product when most of you probably aren't even supporting the game financially.
It doesn't need to be, but it can be someone else's favorite game. Sure most of the people here aren't financially supporting the game, but to pass judgement to the those disappointed with the supposed final update of the game when it was promised to fix (or at least mitigate) bugs from the previous version is off-putting. Mind you these are the same folks who invested their time into the game, be they a supporter or not, because they might have found the story and/or art to be appealing.

EDIT: Grammar and typos.
 
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Onahoe

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You have completed the quest in its entirety? If so, she should return to your party. If you still have some steps left, she would be standing near chapel.

If you did everything and she is just nowhere to be seen, than this is a bug.
Yeah I completed every part and got the class. Guess she's gone. Fuck this "Gold Patch". What an absolute joke.
 

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Gonna need to know how much new stuff they have added to the Noble origin and where do you activate it before starting again, because going through it all over one more time is gonna be a chore.
 

GrandPaBrowning

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This AI uproar confuses me. I get that the "expressiveness" of the scenes has changed, but how focused y'all are on the art changes is... weird. If you don't like it, play an old version or replace the assets with the old ones.

Also, people who hate on AI art and "artists" don't make sense. The art was done for the game. The artist likely has no further say in the pieces already used in the game as they are likely property of the game maker, now. Likely it was part of the agreement that they'd be able to edit whatever art was received if desired or necessary, including cropping to fit, etc.

The weirdos review-bombing really need to go outside. This isn't some artefact or piece of history that needs to be preserved. Dev made a decision to go in a different direction with some of the art. If you don't like it, don't play it. Y'all act like customers who got a bad product when most of you probably aren't even supporting the game financially.
Good to know you haven't ignored tons of non-AI-related critical comments that highlight low-quality of the Gold Edition, which in turn suggests that "devs've chosen the different path" in reality is just devs cutting corners while failing to deliver their promises. Which kinda justify review bombing and all the negative attention devs got, given how they failed to do their job at developing the game.

I'd like to remind anyone apologetic that one of selling points of Gold Edition was bug fixing. Yet the opposite happened - game got tons of new bugs, many of which break the progression. Your companions can despawn from your party, there is no longer meaningful leveling system, gallery was somehow made much worse from a mess it already was, all the while ages-old bugs like castle defense difficulty select or quest log not working were not fixed at all.

Honestly, this game once again feels like pre-1.0 versions, which were a notorious mess of bugs and crashes that I've had a displeasure of playing. So, basically, we got a regress in many aspects of the game in edition that was supposed to fix things.

As for why people are focused on art changes... BECAUSE MOST OF NEW ART IS DOGSHIT. It simply has low quality, tons of mistakes, non-existant or misfitting emotions and other defects. In case you do not believe me, you can check this thread and my posts specifically, because I post and assess each artistic change I encounter, as well as some bugs.

Pre-empting possible accusations of hating the AI, you could also check that I've voiced my support for AI in general and commended some of AI pictures.

I am not a hater. But this update is dogshit that should be critisized. And devs made a greedy fuck-up and thus should be critisized as well.
 
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