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Flutewind

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Exactly! I even suspect some of porn artists out there are doing it already, not announcing it yet. But leaving the pictures as is, with all the many mistakes, is very wrong.
Perhaps so. But fixing them would, for the devs, cost money, which is the very reason they're resorting to AI in the first place. One notable thing AI doesn't get right is the color of sperm, which is usually piss-yellow for some reason (I've seen this in Taffy Tales as well, so I think AI just doesn't understand that sperm should be white).
 

GrandPaBrowning

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To the forum member who pointed out Rulwe's Dicktatles of Growth, I apologize for saying Rulwe is useless. No, Rulwe is now the most OP party member in early game. Whether the Dicktatles of Growth can actually keep up remains to be seen though.
They grow by a few percent for each fight won. Go to Oakshire, to the north, to huntress' cabin. Kill two packs of wolves, enter and exit the cabin to respawn the wolves. Don't bother with the third wolf up-top, because it just a time-waste. Rince and repeat until in half an hour you will have 200+ hp 100+ dmg murderfuck-machine Rulwe.

I don't think the strength of the enemies matter to the dicktacles.
 

CyberCy616

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We can speculate about the reason behind AI for ages and won't come to conclusion since we would struggle hard to actually prove our point beyond mere speculations. I, personally, do not believe it was to give an idea - how would anyone even create a technology (that no doubt has a lot of money behind its development) just to inspire? The reason behind any action usually lies in material plane. In case of AI it is hard no to see that it could replace some of existing artworks - while not paying artists for comissions. And this, I believe. is the real reason why AI-generators were created to begin with - to allow dirt-cheap mass-production of simpler pictures.

They are not tools of inspiration, but of simple greed. And I fail to see how it could be otherwise. Honestly, I find your notion of giving artist ideas naive, no offense. Call me a pessimist, if you like, I am who I am.

And do please stop telling me and other people to "please shut up" - we have all the rights and reasons in the world to complain.



Nice move with labeling your opponents boomers. But the point is - many of those people, me included, complain about AI stuff not just because of the stuff itself, though most of the replacement pictures suck - plain and simple. No, we complain about AI stuff because we have an established game with big financial backing trying to cut corners, even when it was not needed (some replaced pictures were actually good; and they had money so why not pay artists).

We complain about greedy and nonsensical behaviour on devs' part. AI is just one of the ways said behaviour shows itself.


And to give credit when credit is due - I support the idea of using AI-stuff as a template or draft that would be used to test ideas or be worked upon by actual artist. I am not against AI, because I see it for what it is (at least I hope so) - a tool that could be used in many ways for many purposes. A revolutionary tool that greatly expands our creative horizons and give the ability to create something, albeit in "ordering pie instead of baking it" way, to people who'd otherwise never create anything.

But for fucks sake, what devs did to Roundscape isn't an example of how AI-stuff should be used! They've clearly cut corners with it, and not in a reasonable manner, since there is little if any method to what they've replaced. Using AI to add more new content is one thing, wasting your time and effort to replace what already was with AI that does little to no noticeable improvement while adding tons of new defects is wholly another thing. They didn't bother to polish generated images, leaving them with off-putting facial expressions, strange glint all over and glaring anatomical mistakes.

The quality of replacement images is low. That is not a matter of perspective or opinion, since many people in this thread pointed out specific and major mistakes AI have made. The quality is verifiably low.


I won't ask anyone to stop being apologetic to shit, I have no right to tell you what to do. I will just say that no matter how apologetic you get, the shit still smells.
Ok yes you give really good points that's what I wanted to start not defending AI "art" it is shit. What I hate is when people say it's bad but don't give any real reason so I call them Boomers all complaint no reason.
 
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GrandPaBrowning

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Perhaps so. But fixing them would, for the devs, cost money, which is the very reason they're resorting to AI in the first place. One notable thing AI doesn't get right is the color of sperm, which is usually piss-yellow for some reason (I've seen this in Taffy Tales as well, so I think AI just doesn't understand that sperm should be white).
To be fair, some hentai artists too draw sperm with yellowish hue.

Also, funny to see a well-paid game cutting cost-corners.
 
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GrandPaBrowning

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Ok yes you give really good points that's what I wanted to start not defending AI "art" it is shit. What I hate is when people say it's bad but don't give any real reason so I call them Boomers all complaint no reason.
Glad the mutual understanding is reached. We could use more of it, lol.

I don't hate AI-generators because its hard to hate a tool. I simply hate when people use any tool as a bludgeon. You know, as saying goes somewhere like that: with hammer in hand you start to see every problem as a nail for smiting. No and no, as any tool it takes certain finesse to be utilized effectively. Bruteforcing sucks and usually creates more problems than it solves - what we see here as well.
 

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so i guess getting better stats are now bind on items? is there a merchant for int? the witch north of orkshire only sell items for hp,mp, atk and def.
 

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Business as usual then, which is a shame. Shouldn't be the burden of plp like redknight00 to make the game playable.



Oh lmao, haven't checked it out since the initial demo that had neither gallery nor saves but yeah definitely something these guys would do
you still gotta mod the gallery in and ofc the modded gallery runs perfectly unlike the mess of the game
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Lo and behold, for I have found the pefect description of this game's spaghetti code:
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The entity in the background represents the dev team. The security guy drowning in spaghetti represents us, current players. The skeletons in spaghetti represents players who already forsaken this game. The spaghetti represents the spaghetti.
 
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What characters gem ? I don't see one
It's called a Cheater's Gem; not a character gem. Has similar function to the previous cheat codes for 1700(Speed) and 2931(Skip Combat) from the previous versions. You just select the gem and use it on your character instead of typing in a code. Doesn't work for adding Gold though.

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The_fallen_dragon

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I will not touch the ai discussion.
I will not touch the ai discussion
I will not touch the ai discussion....
So I've been playing the game for a few hours now and here is my points.

I was hyped the second I saw a wizard Origins. Honestly, I don't follow the devs so I had no clue what was happening in this update. To be fair I thought the game was through after the last DLC, what more can we do? The world doesn't seem ever to change or grow anymore. So seeing a new Origins isn't just a "pluck this at the beginning and play", no this is something that more or less has to be fully integrated into the integrity of the game and story. That doesn't seem for what I've played to be the case here.

The origin feels disconnected, I don't remember at all the dark god's name being mentioned in the origin...so why are we on a quest to stop him? And instead not trying to get back to our school to save our friends? IT feels like the MC is just plotted into the game and where we always are and its business as usual.

Mage class...something I wanted from the beginning... my god the disappointment... No note my most usedand longer played class is necromancer (best necromancers are best magic users no matter the franchise!!!) Outside that if not necromancer, I tend to jump between arcanist, mystic, and warlock So let me start by stating I love that we can now use 2 classes at once, even though there isn't enough complexity to the job system to really make this shine. (I miss you FFT, loved your job system), but compared to literally every other job class the mage is weak... And I'm not talking first job weak, I mean uninspired type of weak. I'm only level 13 now, but one of the first things I noticed was spells we started unlocking were just edited versions of skills we started with. magic destruction is just an aoe version of disintegration, superior arcane shield is just arcane shield that you can now put on an ally! No other caster class did this There maybe an overlapping effect or two Like how necromancer has 2 spells that stop health regeneration (why did he need 2 of those?) But till he had distinctively different spells. If mage was supposed to be a balanced class, why instead of focusing on the damage, why didn't get a decent amount of cc or support spell? Most TP abilities seem well I've barely used them because the battle tends to be over before I ever need to use timeshift and Arcane arts isn't reliable as I would like it to be.


I haven't gotten to the new character yet, I wanted to run around act one first to see how or what my origins might have changed but it seems o have had no effect on the world.
 

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Another one of those AI "improvements". Look at this:
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On a rarer occasion AI didn't screw up the facial expression - its different from the original scene, but isn't terrible. But its only works for Ruksana, becayse Oncle has this weird vacant stoner expression that AI likes to use.

Also, the mask on the wall from the original artwork was turned into some kind of moai statue. With something like shoulders of another one to the right. So its literally a mismash of random objects.

And her vagina - oh my God, why?! Is it melting?! And those yellow spots that looks like corn? Is she having diarrhea in her cunt?!

What is this literal shit?!

And it comes from a guy who didn't like the original art for this scene. Yet it still beats the AI-crap by a mile.

P.S. This is how scene progresses:
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The testicles seems off, the pose seems off, the cunt-melting is different, the expressions are different, the background is different.

In original art you have scene progressing from one stage to the other using the same base picture that adds consistency. AI seemingly have redrawn each scene separately, loosing the consistency.

So, to people who like consistency - if different artists scew it up between scenes, AI can screw it up in a single scene.
 
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