VN Ren'Py RSSU - Retro Style Soviet Undies - Case#1 Ithaca Project [v1.6.5] [ErosAmor]

[BlenderGuy]

Well, he's making good on all his promises, you gotta give him that. I guess you'll just have to wait for a few more days then

He is the golf of America.

 

[dluser]

Obviously, it will never work on American technology

Hmmm... On second thought, after this week's political developments I'm not so sure about that any more.
Try again. If it still doesn't work, you should get some cheaper Chinese device.

everything is a " Cheaper Chinese Device " its just that the corporation selling it to you is charging you through the teeth because "They Say" its the fucking best when its the same old trash

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

So.... After a bunch of posts were deleted for being off-topic, this thread lasted — what, 24 hours? — before veering hard off topic once again.

 

[Beduin123]

So.... After a bunch of posts were deleted for being off-topic, this thread lasted — what, 24 hours? — before veering hard off topic once again.

Actually, my post with the reference to the book WAS related to the game but was deleted anyway. That's all you need to know about moderation on this forum.

 

[dluser]

So.... After a bunch of posts were deleted for being off-topic, this thread lasted — what, 24 hours? — before veering hard off topic once again.

name a time in human history where humans have only spoke of one thing.......

you see the paradox ??

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Actually, my post with the reference to the book WAS related to the game but was deleted anyway. That's all you need to know about moderation on this forum.

Yep, I submitted a ticket to staff asking about that. It seems a mod got overzealous with the delete button.

name a time in human history where humans have only spoke of one thing.......

you see the paradox ??

Not really a paradox, actually. But yeah, I understand why it happens. TBF, that's actually why there are off-topic threads specifically, for games or otherwise. In fact, I've now created an off-topic for this game so things like Beduin123's suggestion can be made without risk of deletion. So if anybody would like to help inform me more about the culture, references in jokes, etc., I'd very much appreciate it:

https://f95zone.to/threads/russian-culture-off-topic-thread-for-rssu-and-others.245601/​

 

[vifaloveyou]

It's been almost a year. No news.

 

[Aristos]

The lack of communication is a bit disappointing. Well, not a bit, but VERY disappointing.
His discord is also mostly dead, and I've just seen there that some of his Russian-speaking subscribers are starting to lose their patience. Someone was even using not so pleasant words, if my online translator is to be trusted. Allegedly, he'd promised (in Russian) to have the update ready by New Year, but it's March now and still nothing.
Frankly, I don't know what to expect

 

[pilapila3]

The lack of communication is a bit disappointing. Well, not a bit, but VERY disappointing.
His discord is also mostly dead, and I've just seen there that some of his Russian-speaking subscribers are starting to lose their patience. Someone was even using not so pleasant words, if my online translator is to be trusted. Allegedly, he'd promised (in Russian) to have the update ready by New Year, but it's March now and still nothing.
Frankly, I don't know what to expect

Main focus is still on Steam as far as I know (as of February).

 

[Michael_MAN]

The lack of communication is a bit disappointing. Well, not a bit, but VERY disappointing.
His discord is also mostly dead, and I've just seen there that some of his Russian-speaking subscribers are starting to lose their patience. Someone was even using not so pleasant words, if my online translator is to be trusted. Allegedly, he'd promised (in Russian) to have the update ready by New Year, but it's March now and still nothing.
Frankly, I don't know what to expect

Well, Discord itself is dead in Russia since it was officially banned and blocked in October...

 

[Aristos]

Well, Discord itself is dead in Russia since it was officially banned and blocked in October...

Well, I didn't know about that. Maybe Russian users found a way around the ban as it usually happens, or maybe only Russian speakers from other countries have access to it.
All I know is that there is a Russian subforum on his Discord and it's the only one that's not completely quiet, although the activity there is also minimal.

 

[vifaloveyou]

Can it now be pessimistically predicted that the game has actually been abandoned, since it's been a year since the last update, just a month shy of a full year, and a year without any status updates

 

[Thisguy01]

Can it now be pessimistically predicted that the game has actually been abandoned, since it's been a year since the last update, just a month shy of a full year, and a year without any status updates

Shame. It was fun while it lasted.

 

[Aristos]

Can it now be pessimistically predicted that the game has actually been abandoned, since it's been a year since the last update, just a month shy of a full year, and a year without any status updates

Shame. It was fun while it lasted.

The dev addressed all the criticism he'd been receiving on Discord with a very very very long message on April 1st.

Spoiler: Russian original

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According to Google Translate, he said this:

I read the correspondence and thought about it. At least with the delay in the release of the update there was some activity in the Discord. Otherwise there is almost no discussion about the game itself, it is not clear whether I am doing something correctly or not. As I already said, there were several trips recently, although very useful and informative, but because of them (and also because of the time spent on going to Steam) I now have a "budget deficit" for the development of the game of about 150 hours. Despite the fact that I can devote 2-3 hours a day to development, taking this time away from my personal life.
Now they promise not to bother me much until autumn and I am thinking about what to spend the next six months of work in the evenings on.
Borland raised a good topic, the right one. We have to admit that the development of the game did not live up to expectations and did not arouse interest among players, except for a small number of fans. Think for yourself, who is interested in a game with such a theme now? The reasons can be discussed at length, this is a topic for a separate conversation. The sanctions and the current situation in the world can also be discussed at length. But I spent time to compile statistics on the game. And the results - 30 subscribers on Boost and Patreon - don't you think that this says a lot about the demand for the game? And there have never been many more. And before the sanctions, the maximum number of subscribers on Patreon did not exceed 50 people. And there is no reason to believe that this number will increase. Of course, I am glad that the game has at least some fans and am very grateful to them for their support, but the total income from Boost and Patreon is now about $ 120 per month.

I made an attempt to go to Steam to somehow justify the investment of time and money. I thought that with such a player base, Steam would be able to make the game development its main income, but...
After deducting the costs of purchasing models, paying the proofreader and translator, Steam brought in an additional 80-100 dollars per month of development. Moreover, the main income came in the first month after the release. The game was bought by everyone who wanted to support me, and now there is practically no income. Moreover, in addition to money, a fairly large amount of time was spent on preparing the Steam version. The release of the next chapter was delayed, including for this reason. And the final results of the release on Steam are not very encouraging.
If you fully develop the plot of the game, as it was intended, now the game is about a third ready. If you force things and cut it a little - by half. If Steam brought in a reasonable amount of money, it would take 1.5 - 2 years to fully complete the game.
Now I am at a crossroads, because I need to finally decide what to do for the next few years. I see three possible scenarios for now:
Option 0 — leave everything as is, continue to slowly develop the game and be content with little. Maybe remove the “extra” high subscription levels from Boost and Patreon, since most subscribers pay $1 anyway. But in fact, you’ll have to feed subscribers with promises and make excuses for the delay in the release. And as you probably already understood, I don’t like to talk about work until it’s done. And the current work schedule doesn’t allow me to set exact deadlines. And the current collections from subscribers don’t allow me to devote more time to the game.
Option 1 — close the subscription to Boost and Patreon, since (you won’t believe it) I myself don’t like it when I don’t live up to subscribers’ expectations and focus only on the Steam version. Justify the purchase of coffee and cigarettes with a small income, slowly develop the game as an evening hobby and post updates as they’re ready.
Option 2 — stop kicking a dead horse. Get out of the sunk cost trap and admit that the game is unlikely to ever justify the investment. As the statistics from F95, worked out on dozens or even hundreds of similar games, say - if the game has not brought in money in the first six months, it will never bring it in again. There are a huge number of games with the "abandoned" tag on the forum. So I am not the first and not the last one who faces such a situation. In my game, I would like to develop the plot of the presence of unusual objects in our world, express some attitude to life and people and even derive some moral, and not just give out a collection of sex scenes. So maybe it would be better to express this plot and moral in another form? For example, write a book, make a "regular" SFW version of the game in the form of a quest in a different setting, more interesting to the mass player, or in some other way, if the players are really interested in the plot of the game, and not just pictures with Lisa and Olga Nikolaevna? Maybe the next few years of my life should be spent on something else, since this option didn't work out?
Sorry if it came out a bit chaotic and letter-heavy. I'd like to know what you think about it.

 

[Wooloomooloo]

All I hear there is "if you want more RSSU give me moar money". There is no development model including the absolute most hobby-level "I'm just doing it for the LOLz in my spare time when the kids are asleep" minima under which SOME kind of update could not be produced in a whole damned year. Maybe the author should just skip the "make excuses for the delay" (his words) bullshit and just admit they don't feel like bothering with this without getting rich in the process. At least that would show some vestigial backbone...

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

All I hear there is "if you want more RSSU give me moar money". There is no development model including the absolute most hobby-level "I'm just doing it for the LOLz in my spare time when the kids are asleep" minima under which SOME kind of update could not be produced in a whole damned year. Maybe the author should just skip the "make excuses for the delay" (his words) bullshit and just admit they don't feel like bothering with this without getting rich in the process. At least that would show some vestigial backbone...

I find it ridiculous how you're assuming this is about "getting rich". Do you honestly think even 50 subscribers on Patreon is enough to sustain someone? The vast majority of indie developers (even outside of adult games / VNs) start their projects without being independently financially stable. In other words, they have to work day jobs. A large number of these folks also have families.

And you can't deny the reality of the situation: right now, there are a lot of folks who refuse (or can't, in some cases) support anything to do with that part of the world. But sure, ignore people you care about and obligations you have in the real world so some rando on some forum can say how much you should or should not have done with some arbitrary timeframe they have in mind.

I get the disappointment with a project potentially getting abandoned. But have you worked on developing your own game while also juggling full-time work for someone else as well as everything else in life? Have you done that for even a couple of years in a row? If you have, are you super energetic and always excited to work on your game while every single hour of every single day is without pause or break so you can try to manage everything all at the same time? Yeah, didn't think so.

 

[vifaloveyou]

The dev addressed all the criticism he'd been receiving on Discord with a very very very long message on April 1st.

Spoiler: Russian original

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According to Google Translate, he said this:

It's definitely a good game, but due to regional and cultural issues, it gets a lot of unfair treatment on F95 or Patreon, and I remember one update version that didn't even get LATEST UPDATES on F95, so that limited a lot of people from knowing about the game, but the developer had promised to develop and finish the game, so please, I really don't want to see it abandoned.

 

[RetroGuy]

Give him a break, people. He puts his work and time into this game and you can download it for free here. So never look a gift horse in the mouth.

I visit this site for a moment and a lot of games got abandoned or their development stalls. It's disappointing but it just happens and we have to live with it.

 

[vifaloveyou]

Give him a break, people. He puts his work and time into this game and you can download it for free here. So never look a gift horse in the mouth.

I visit this site for a moment and a lot of games got abandoned or their development stalls. It's disappointing but it just happens and we have to live with it.

We're not blaming the developers, but the fact that has to be recognized is that, apart from regional cultural sensitivities, there is also the biggest reason for this, which is that the long period of time that developers don't update, or don't have a progress of new version releases, leads to a further worsening of this situation, and really discourages a lot of people from sponsoring at Patreon

 

[Aristos]

We're not blaming the developers, but the fact that has to be recognized is that, apart from regional cultural sensitivities, there is also the biggest reason for this, which is that the long period of time that developers don't update, or don't have a progress of new version releases, leads to a further worsening of this situation, and really discourages a lot of people from sponsoring at Patreon

For example, myself.
I was a supporter for almost 2 years, but stopped a couple of months ago. It's not only the lack of updates, but also the total lack of communication that pushed me away from supporting the project.
It is true that he lost almost half of his patrons in the weeks that followed Ukraine's invasion, but the supporters that did stay should not be forsaken.