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Shadow_S_129

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It's a bit of a shame it's not for me, because I really like the art of this game. Oh well. At least there are enough people that can enjoy it, and that's what matters...
Chiming in on this part, not meaning to bring you down.

Interesting you say that you do in fact like the artwork, though did you know the artist for this has been the author of a couple of hypnosis/mind control manga (and I think one hentai Light Novel???) plots for quite awhile now? At least two of them got hentai OVAs.

Only reason I'm pointing that out is in case you look up the artist, only to find out that he does the very thing you're not into.

I'm not one to judge; you stick to your guns, cowboy.
 
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SecondOrion

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Hope i dont get bonked for that kinda OT question but: What do you reccomend as a antivirus?
Stay away from noisy ones like Norton, McAfee and Avast. (Avast is good but very intrusive) I personally use Vipre, but Malwarebytes is decent freeware if you don’t want to pay for antivirus. Kaspersky is pretty good, though I don’t know much about it. I hear Webroot is quality, but might be on the pricier side.
 

Hikaru47

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Stay away from noisy ones like Norton, McAfee and Avast. (Avast is good but very intrusive) I personally use Vipre, but Malwarebytes is decent freeware if you don’t want to pay for antivirus. Kaspersky is pretty good, though I don’t know much about it. I hear Webroot is quality, but might be on the pricier side.
Thank you very much for your input and suggestions. I will look into these, well invest a bit into cybersec stuff is not wrong, tho. It can save your ass literally. Not everything in www is happy and dandy. But thats something i dont have to tell ya. ;)

Now i don't wanna clutter this thread with OT stuff any further. ;)

Cheers buddy. (y)
 

Rosen King

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As Zaq Reman above mentioned it's not about real feelings, it's exactly about bending someone while ignoring their feelings. and by all means hypnosis is dark and strong fetish, it's worse than rape in regards on violence over certain person since it's not only brings bodily but also mental harm you can even exaggerate and say it's same as murder since you basically remove any agency affected party might have often making them into unthinking doll to play with. It's pure domination. But that's the point - as any other fetish hypnotism have it's audience and they love it for all above-mentioned points. That's not about getting laid, it's about having power over someone.
To be clear, it is possible to have romantic and even consensual plots with mind control or hypnotism. It's like tying a girl up to a bed. Some people do it because they're monsters who want to stop the girl from escaping while she's being raped (and many people fetishize that, as evidenced by the abundance of tentacle porn), and some people do it with the people they love because they enjoy the exchange of power.
 
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Bucketbot89

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Haven't read this yet, but judging by the ladies' expressions in the preview pics and the overview in the description, I can't believe this doesn't have the rape tag
 

Ragsmu

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To be clear, it is possible to have romantic and even consensual plots with mind control or hypnotism. It's like tying a girl up to a bed. Some people do it because they're monsters who want to stop the girl from escaping while she's being raped (and many people fetishize that, as evidenced by the abundance of tentacle porn), and some people do it with the people they love because they enjoy the exchange of power.
Oh thats for sure - fully agree on that point, though it is less popular. As per your example you rarely will find doujins with consensual bondage, while rapy ones are abundant. Same with mind control. Then again same "penlight" Vn explores both consensual and not consensual hypnosis. which is actually quite interesting in itself. (still have problems with satisfying endings and lack of sexual content (aside from nudity))

Haven't read this yet, but judging by the ladies' expressions in the preview pics and the overview in the description, I can't believe this doesn't have the rape tag
If you mind control someone into "willingly" having sex with you doth it counts as a rape?
 

Rosen King

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If you mind control someone into "willingly" having sex with you doth it counts as a rape?
Yes, but not for the tags on this site. I'm pretty sure the "rape" tag is for forced intercourse, not coerced/manipulated/drugged/brainwashed intercourse. Or statutory rape, for that matter. Probably other forms of rape that don't get that tag, too.
 

Nonya Bizz

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Honestly I'm not into hypnosis stuff generally because of a lot of reasons given, but I do find that it works well in situations where the 'target' is often "bad" (rate that how you will) and that the actual acts are still giving the characters 'some' agency (or said hypnosis is a lower inhibition type thing). Stuff I've liked with it:

1. Snow Daze: All characters are rough to the protag in some way, but most of the hypnosis given 'can' be broken if they aren't eased into it (you will actually fail at hypnotizing if they aren't pleased enough) and in fact the 'true ending' is basically hypnotizing yourself to push them the final way.

2. Lab Rats (mostly 1, 2 honestly doesn't have enough direct hypnosis/mind control to count since most stuff is more sandbox), all 4 characters are good but none of the stuff is direct mind control it just lowers inhibition. The only true 'mind control' that happens is when you are implementing fetishes later in the game, which mostly affects a couple endings/scenes and also relates to the impregnation endings (depending on if you gave them a breeding fetish or not)

3. There's a doujin done by Aiue Oka called "Bullied Revenge Hypnosis" (either buy on Fakku or look online at... other places...) where all 3 girls are the school bullies and the main girl is so bad that she basically has had people kill themselves (or at least got close to it). What makes the story interesting is that you actually mostly follow the main girl's perspective rather than the guy's, and she's hypnotized to be a dom while thinking she is taking advantage of him (which she would honestly do possibly, though not to this extent). It's interesting because you see just what kind of damage she enjoys causing other people and how much she scares other people, and it keeps teasing that she finds out about the hypnosis only for the guy to reveal that he's been tricking her in odd ways to really break her. The story ends where he undoes the hypnosis before sorta mind-breaking them into being his lovers... before regretting his decision at the end as they say they want more than he was expecting. I do think the after pages really help though, the artist talks with the main character and says "If this was a Visual Novel, you somehow got the golden ending, every other ending you'd die horribly" all while the main girl "ooohs" and "ahhhs" said deaths.

... I should also note that pregnancy is in all 3 and there are other fetishes there that caught my eye, but basically I like it when hypnosis things end where the hypnotized are: 1. Still themselves to some extent (not a total mind wipe, just them but sluttier/nicer or whatever), and 2. EVERYONE is happy at the end and in control of themselves to some extent.

*Edit: also the events of the stories take place over a few days at minimum and weeks/months maximum. Snow Daze is only 5'ish days sure, but Lab Rats and the doujin arguably take place over months (Lab Rats is 120 days and while it is tricky to tell how long the montage is regarding the doujin, it is long enough that all 3 girls are aware that they are pregnant as they were hypnotized into thinking that'd ruin the guy to have sex/get women pregnant and not be in love with him). I will also say now in this edit: yes, the fact that pregnancy is part of all of these hypnosis works arguably makes them worse because of the bodily agency already mentioned, except worse because pregnancy is a big deal/"what kind of environment will the children grow up in"... that's it, I'm acknowledging it. People be finding weird things sexy/justify it however they can, even though I tend to prefer as vanilla as possible in my stories.
 
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Falkfisch

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Looks interesting, but as long as nobody patches the goddamn pixels away, nothing for me ...
 

Eclipsoul

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Name me some translated vn which have these. ;-) My point was never the entire j-media is doing that, i meant the translated works us western plebs do get have this problem for sure! I do not give a fuck if you like it or hate it, the problem is we do not have anything in the west even trying to develop these ideas into something interesting. And that is a fact, because believe it or not i looked for a while at things for both (ntr and hypno). I watch, read and look at just about anything besides guro, snuff and scat. The moment western porn imitated that idea it only became a meme as well and that is just sad.
I could go on and on about the ridiculously vast amount of different genres (yes, there are more then one) that are in the mind control/hypnosis category, but that would be for another day. point is, there are plenty of hypnosis/mind control games on this site alone that can take over 8 hours to complete, heck sometimes that's just one path! i'll admit that western take on it is severely lacking...in just about all regards, but you can't generalize all of hypnosis and mind control based on loose experience.

however, in the spirit of proper debate, i'd love to hear your thoughts! such as what prominent hypnosis/mind control works have you experienced to arrive at this conclusion? broaden my knowledge of this subject my friend!
 

Eclipsoul

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I'm so confused, Ive installed this game from all the downloads, and every one of them just gives me a write error when I try to extract it via WinRAR, da heck is happening?
 
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