Tutorial Sandboxie Plus Quick Start.

[WheresLucifer]

total newbie to this. installed sandboxie and will test it out on an RPGM game soon. assuming it works fine, i only have one question - is copying, editing, deleting saves easy/non-difficult? sometimes i will do so when uploading a save file to saveeditor if i need to cheat (though not often). either way i will eventually find out on my own

You can edit the save files on saveeditor, just make sure you save the file to the proper location where Sandboxie plus assigned the folder path to where it would store the "Temporary data" when it currently executed in Sandboxie. I have done a few save editing that are from RPGM.

If you are planning to do that, you may need to do the following:

1. have saveeditor open
2. use the save data from the path that is setup in Sandboxie Plus (example ..\Temp-Sandboxie\Games\drive\C\Temp\RPGM-Game\save
3. skip if not needed. If need item file or system file for the saveeditor, that would be from the original path of where the RPGM was uncompressed to.
4. make your changes from saveeditor
5. save the data to same path from step 2.

Sorry, I was confused by this. Does this mean I should unzip game folders outside of the forced folder and then put the unzipped folder inside of the forced folder I designated?


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I usually uncompressed the AVN/games in the original location that I downloaded it to. Sandboxie Plus can create a temporary folder/path to only store any modification or changes such as saves and other minor data in the path that sandboxie plus's default or your custom selection.

I would recommend that you do not try to uncompressed the AVN/game to the the folder location that sandboxie has set the path to. Once you get familiar using Sandboxie Plus, you can test some of the option like you stated.

Have a great day and be safe...

 

[colobancuz]

Sorry, I was confused by this. Does this mean I should unzip game folders outside of the forced folder and then put the unzipped folder inside of the forced folder I designated?


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If you use built-in tools in file managers (plugins for FAR, Total Commander, etc.) to unpack archives, you can safely do so inside the forced folder.
However, if you use a separate application associated with the archive file extension (7z, Winrar, etc.), you need to open the archive outside the forced folder, but you can unpack it into the forced folder.
Alternatively, you can first launch the unpacker via Start (or a shortcut on the desktop) and then, once inside it, open the archive inside the forced folder and unpack it.

I hope that explains it clearly.

 

[Mortarion]

https://f95zone.to/threads/fate-and-life-the-mystery-of-vaulinhorn-ch-13-celestial-novel.127932/

That game is constantly crashing for me. It refuses to even start.



Some otherS encountered this issue?

 

[WheresLucifer]

https://f95zone.to/threads/fate-and-life-the-mystery-of-vaulinhorn-ch-13-celestial-novel.127932/

That game is constantly crashing for me. It refuses to even start.

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Some otherS encountered this issue?

Well, decided to use some of my time to test the AVN issue you been having.

1. Downloaded the AVN within past hour, "Compressed" (images/videos and files been crushed down quite a bit) * No mod file been applied, just stand alone AVN * (File name: FateandLifeTheMysteryofVaulinhorn-13.0-pc-compressed.zip)
2. Extracted the file.
- The host flagged the executable file (FateandLifeTheMysteryofVaulinhorn.exe) as malware. It may be false positive, another word it may not be infected.
- Used a Virtual Machine (VM) that has Sandboxie Plus on as well. Transferred the files and data to partition in that VM and pull the executable file (FateandLifeTheMysteryofVaulinhorn.exe) from compress file (FateandLifeTheMysteryofVaulinhorn-13.0-pc-compressed.zip) again and place it to the proper location.
3. Using the Sandboxie Plus (in the VM) and execute the AVN. The AVN opened/loaded without any known issue.

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Result, unable to reproduce the issue you were having. If you rebooted your system and still having same issue. Maybe try reinstalling Sandboxie Plus again.

Tested in Virtual Machine:
- Windows 11. (Normal installation). Network disabled.
- Sandboxie Plus (v1.15.8). No network setting.

Have a great day and be safe...

 

[RackUser]

I have been using the sandbox for a while now, followed all the steps and everything but when I start a renpy game in the sandbox I have my saves from previous versions that are not in the sandbox. And all of my renpy saves are on a completely other drive. Is it normal for games inside the sandbox to access saves that are outside of it? and if not how do I correct.

 

[Mortarion]

I have been using the sandbox for a while now, followed all the steps and everything but when I start a renpy game in the sandbox I have my saves from previous versions that are not in the sandbox. And all of my renpy saves are on a completely other drive. Is it normal for games inside the sandbox to access saves that are outside of it? and if not how do I correct.

If you have followed the setup like in the OP then Sandboxie will create the saves not anymore in the directory of the game itself (Gamename/game/saves), or in /appdata.../Renpy but in the directory you have set as root directory for sandboxie.

This is my root as example. Its just a bigger USB stick

 

[RackUser]

If you have followed the setup like in the OP then Sandboxie will create the saves not anymore in the directory of the game itself (Gamename/game/saves), or in /appdata.../Renpy but in the directory you have set as root directory for sandboxie.

This is my root as example. Its just a bigger USB stick

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thank you I have now made a sandbox folder for saves for ease of use but how are the games inside the sandbox getting the saves from outside. I think I may have accidentally skipped a step by accident. My bad if im being slow

 

[ghastling43]

Can save files get infected? Since recovered files are stored outside the sandbox, if I was to say, run a game in a sandbox and it happened to have malware or a virus, would me recovering only the save file before clearing the sandbox put me at risk of the virus spreading to my other files?

The scenario I'd do this in would be if I finished playing a game for the day and intended on continuing where I left off the next day. I'd recover the save file before sandbox deletion and run the game again from that save the next day.

 

[WheresLucifer]

Can save files get infected? Since recovered files are stored outside the sandbox, if I was to say, run a game in a sandbox and it happened to have malware or a virus, would me recovering only the save file before clearing the sandbox put me at risk of the virus spreading to my other files?

The scenario I'd do this in would be if I finished playing a game for the day and intended on continuing where I left off the next day. I'd recover the save file before sandbox deletion and run the game again from that save the next day.

There is no promise that the save files would be infected or not. As long you run the AVN/games in the Sandboxie Plus, you have reduce the risk so low that it shouldnt effect the HOST (your system/computer) when you run it in Sandboxie Plus. If you have antivirus on your HOST, it may also scan it as well even it may not be pure defined to check that file extension properly. In addition, Sandboxie Plus place that application in a shell or box that shouldnt interference with the HOST data such as Windows' registry, system files, and other data. Sandboxie Plus will pace any modifcation into the path where you decide to have it store the data.

Have a great day and be safe...

 

[ghastling43]

There is no promise that the save files would be infected or not. As long you run the AVN/games in the Sandboxie Plus, you have reduce the risk so low that it shouldnt effect the HOST (your system/computer) when you run it in Sandboxie Plus. If you have antivirus on your HOST, it may also scan it as well even it may not be pure defined to check that file extension properly. In addition, Sandboxie Plus place that application in a shell or box that shouldnt interference with the HOST data such as Windows' registry, system files, and other data. Sandboxie Plus will pace any modifcation into the path where you decide to have it store the data.

Have a great day and be safe...

I see, so there's a chance save files could still be infected when I recover them, but the antivirus may be able to catch it anyways. I wonder if it is a smarter idea to just not clear the sandbox and only wait until you finally finish playing a game to delete its contents, since at least that way your HOST should be at low risk and unaffected because the game is isolated like you said, and you wouldn't worry about this save file mess.

Thanks for all the advice.

 

[WheresLucifer]

I see, so there's a chance save files could still be infected when I recover them, but the antivirus may be able to catch it anyways. I wonder if it is a smarter idea to just not clear the sandbox and only wait until you finally finish playing a game to delete its contents, since at least that way your HOST should be at low risk and unaffected because the game is isolated like you said, and you wouldn't worry about this save file mess.

Thanks for all the advice.

Usually the save files are design to be pretty much text data and shouldnt be able to be executable. However if the AVN/game retrieve the save file data it is like proper information to fill in the variable that the AVN/Game needs, such as an example for Ren'PY (AVN) it need to know the save file location that it was saved, and (if there any) options been selected by your input to options that were required to move forward into the next scene after the choices. It is not common at this moment that the save file get infected.

Have read a few posting that malware coding/script been intregrated into image file. user agreement text file, and few other places which anti-virus program does not detect since it pretty much data until the application been executed that may do multiple call function(s) to run the coding/script that may need to reachout to the primary source locationt o retrieve the malware binaries to execute, which the anti-virus/firewall/spyware application may flag/quartine it before it even get executed on the HOST.

You choose your options to either to leave the save files or back it up. There is no right or wrong decision. Depending on the save files, it cannot be execute on it own and it need the proper application to retrieve the data. Again it is rare that the save file of the AVN/game to be infected.

I usually bundle the save/saves folder into a compress file, such as ZIP file or other extensions, and place it to a save folder. Also have not come across any save files that been infected at this moment.

Hope this make more sense for you to determine your prefer decision what to do with the save files.

Have a great day and be safe...

 

[colobancuz]

Can save files get infected? Since recovered files are stored outside the sandbox, if I was to say, run a game in a sandbox and it happened to have malware or a virus, would me recovering only the save file before clearing the sandbox put me at risk of the virus spreading to my other files?

The scenario I'd do this in would be if I finished playing a game for the day and intended on continuing where I left off the next day. I'd recover the save file before sandbox deletion and run the game again from that save the next day.

I see, so there's a chance save files could still be infected when I recover them, but the antivirus may be able to catch it anyways. I wonder if it is a smarter idea to just not clear the sandbox and only wait until you finally finish playing a game to delete its contents, since at least that way your HOST should be at low risk and unaffected because the game is isolated like you said, and you wouldn't worry about this save file mess.

Thanks for all the advice.

Even if the save file gets infected in some way and is restored from the sandbox, it is not dangerous. Save files are not run as executable files, even separately from the game, and since the game is in a sandbox, malware will not be able to get out of the sandbox in this way.
If your save file is replaced by an executable file, it still has to be run outside the sandbox, i.e. the user will have to do it himself, and if the file does not have the appropriate extension, it will be extremely problematic to do it (by accident, for example). Naturally, if you see suspicious files (exe, bat, cmd, etc.) among your saves, they should be deleted or not restored from the sandbox.

 

[ghastling43]

Usually the save files are design to be pretty much text data and shouldnt be able to be executable. However if the AVN/game retrieve the save file data it is like proper information to fill in the variable that the AVN/Game needs, such as an example for Ren'PY (AVN) it need to know the save file location that it was saved, and (if there any) options been selected by your input to options that were required to move forward into the next scene after the choices. It is not common at this moment that the save file get infected.

Have read a few posting that malware coding/script been intregrated into image file. user agreement text file, and few other places which anti-virus program does not detect since it pretty much data until the application been executed that may do multiple call function(s) to run the coding/script that may need to reachout to the primary source locationt o retrieve the malware binaries to execute, which the anti-virus/firewall/spyware application may flag/quartine it before it even get executed on the HOST.

You choose your options to either to leave the save files or back it up. There is no right or wrong decision. Depending on the save files, it cannot be execute on it own and it need the proper application to retrieve the data. Again it is rare that the save file of the AVN/game to be infected.

I usually bundle the save/saves folder into a compress file, such as ZIP file or other extensions, and place it to a save folder. Also have not come across any save files that been infected at this moment.

Hope this make more sense for you to determine your prefer decision what to do with the save files.

Have a great day and be safe...

Yeah it does, thanks for the detailed replies.

Even if the save file gets infected in some way and is restored from the sandbox, it is not dangerous. Save files are not run as executable files, even separately from the game, and since the game is in a sandbox, malware will not be able to get out of the sandbox in this way.
If your save file is replaced by an executable file, it still has to be run outside the sandbox, i.e. the user will have to do it himself, and if the file does not have the appropriate extension, it will be extremely problematic to do it (by accident, for example). Naturally, if you see suspicious files (exe, bat, cmd, etc.) among your saves, they should be deleted or not restored from the sandbox.

Wow okay, this is reassuring. Thank you, I'll look out for them.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Does anyone know how to change, or at least reset, font scaling in the interface ? Ever since I made the mistake of trying to adjust that value from the default 100%, Sandboxie keeps forcing it to 75%, no matter what I do. I really don’t know how to get this back to normal.

Edit: I fixed my issue. ^^

 

[anordinary_guy]

You can edit the save files on saveeditor, just make sure you save the file to the proper location where Sandboxie plus assigned the folder path to where it would store the "Temporary data" when it currently executed in Sandboxie. I have done a few save editing that are from RPGM.

If you are planning to do that, you may need to do the following:

1. have saveeditor open
2. use the save data from the path that is setup in Sandboxie Plus (example ..\Temp-Sandboxie\Games\drive\C\Temp\RPGM-Game\save
3. skip if not needed. If need item file or system file for the saveeditor, that would be from the original path of where the RPGM was uncompressed to.
4. make your changes from saveeditor
5. save the data to same path from step 2.

hi mate, thanks for this but i also wanted to ask if there was a way for Sandboxie not to erase my save data automatically. what i mean by this is whenever i run the .exe sandboxed and play my game and make saves, whenever i close it, Sandboxie automatically deletes the files in ..\Temp-Sandboxie\Games\drive\C\Temp\RPGM-Game\save unless i manually extract them out before closing my game. is there a way to stop Sandboxie from doing that because i gotta say copying my saves out of here before closing is getting annoying cause i have to do it so often, or else i lose all my game progress. its okay if its not possible tho

 

[colobancuz]

hi mate, thanks for this but i also wanted to ask if there was a way for Sandboxie not to erase my save data automatically. what i mean by this is whenever i run the .exe sandboxed and play my game and make saves, whenever i close it, Sandboxie automatically deletes the files in ..\Temp-Sandboxie\Games\drive\C\Temp\RPGM-Game\save unless i manually extract them out before closing my game. is there a way to stop Sandboxie from doing that because i gotta say copying my saves out of here before closing is getting annoying cause i have to do it so often, or else i lose all my game progress. its okay if its not possible tho

 

[anordinary_guy]

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how to get to this screen ? also im not talking about renpy games just RPGM

nvm didnt realise it was the sandbox options not the sandboxie options

 

[WheresLucifer]

I assumed you got your answer to your question/concern from.

Have a great day and be safe...

 

[SonTupolewicz]

I don't get it. Every time I save the game, the save files don't show up in %appdata or any folder. Moreover, whenever I try to set up the recovery folder, Sandboxie crashes when launching the game.

 

[colobancuz]

I don't get it. Every time I save the game, the save files don't show up in %appdata or any folder. Moreover, whenever I try to set up the recovery folder, Sandboxie crashes when launching the game.

Please be more specific - what kind of game you are running, what sandbox settings are set, what error it gives when it crashes.
All saves should be inside the sandbox if you do not have auto-cleaning of the sandbox when the game ends. Try to disable autocleaning (if enabled) and manually run Recovery after the game and find your saves there. This should work even with unconfigured recovery folder.