VN RPGM Abandoned Saria Reclaimed [v0.17] [Velminth]

[Yukariin]

there are 2 different when talking about game vs VN.

one is the granted and hopefully obvious acceptance that a _game_ should have gameplay elements, otherwise it's not a game. people fond of VNs need to understand that when people come to a porn _game_ website they're expecting to find games, not stories, otherwise they could just watch porn or read hentai doujin.

the other is the longer term realization of the unfortunate reality that the vast VAST majority of porn games are absolute garbage. it doesn't take you long trying RPG-M games over and over to see that the people making these games have absolutely no idea wtf they're doing, karryn's prison was an incredible blessing that this game is trying to recapture with its own imagining. how many more games are these devs going to shove down our throat with stupid non-sex combat with those same stock monster bat and rat to get useless experience and materials. we play porn games for the porn, and yet you have to slog through the most tedious non-porn activities for seemingly no fucking reason.

i have come to nowadays look exclusively for renpy VNs, not because they are better, but because the aggregate of the industry is so unforgivingly garbage but i can compensate this with a renpy builtin feature, going on options, checking "skip unseen", starting a new game and holding CTRL so skip all the stupid shit and straight to the parts i want.

 

[MrUnknownPants]

What is it "Lewd - irreversible"? What's gonna change?
And it's too bad they took away the debug mode.

My guess is, that it refers to you being able to unlock the gallery, but not lock it again afterwards

 

[Hunterop6969]

is here a way to level up or upgrade her stats?

 

[heskflesk]

BUG: If you manually skip turn during battle cg, the cut-ins when they cum doesn't disappear and locks you in place with nothing to press. Had the same issue last update with the massage job, but that seems to be fixed and is working fine from what i can tell

 

[DemonLord98]

v15.2 some of the new CG's work. I also think stamina, willpower, and pleasure need to be completely redone in a different way. You just take WAY to much willpower damage from cumming every other turn. Like even after cumming pleasure is at 70-80. Then cum again in a turn or two.

 

[ShoutaTheShota]

It sounds like people complaining about how awful the new card system works hurt his feelings
No bro, people want good gameplay without cards but at this point the dev will not admit the card system was a mistake

The funny part about all of this is the turn-base combat before the overhaul was way better than both of these combat system, and that gives an idea of how miss-directed is the game development currently.

 

[MoneyMan181]

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It sounds like people complaining about how awful the new card system works hurt his feelings
No bro, people want good gameplay without cards but at this point the dev will not admit the card system was a mistake

The funny part about all of this is the turn-base combat before the overhaul was way better than both of these combat system, and that gives an idea of how miss-directed is the game development currently.

I don't really blame him. He probably spent a lot of time designing and actually getting the card system to work only for people to say, "this dogsh1t mitake pls undo all work u jsut did ". People on this forum are way too reactionary. They see something they don't like and instantly froth at the mouth, saying how things are a mistake or that the project is being mismanaged because of one SUBJECTIVE viewpoint.

I understand that the card system isn't perfect, but maybe it would actually be helpful and more positive for the dev if you guys voiced your opinions in a more constructive and positive way. You dogpiling onto the problem and posting this for no reason other than to get a rise out of people is part of the problem. Should the dev have been this passive aggressive in the post? No, but you can at least try to understand where he's coming from or at least not perpetuate this cycle of insulting each other.

He's a human being whose passion project just got shit on by the very audience he's making the game for. Give him a break.

 

[Strayka]

I don't really blame him. He probably spent a lot of time designing and actually getting the card system to work only for people to say, "this dogsh1t mitake pls undo all work u jsut did ". People on this forum are way too reactionary. They see something they don't like and instantly froth at the mouth, saying how things are a mistake or that the project is being mismanaged because of one SUBJECTIVE viewpoint.

I understand that the card system isn't perfect, but maybe it would actually be helpful and more positive for the dev if you guys voiced your opinions in a more constructive and positive way. You dogpiling onto the problem and posting this for no reason other than to get a rise out of people is part of the problem. Should the dev have been this passive aggressive in the post? No, but you can at least try to understand where he's coming from or at least not perpetuate this cycle of insulting each other.

He's a human being whose passion project just got shit on by the very audience he's making the game for. Give him a break.

Thank you, I'm embarrassed by some of these troglodytes screaming about the card system. In my opinion it helps the games flow and makes it stand out more especially when every other comment is about karryns prison. Velminth is doing high quality work and i can almost guarantee most of you overly judgemental children have never thought about supporting the game and offering actual feedback instead of just bitching and shitting on the game because you cant figure out how to play and then he starts working on a way to give you what you want which is no cards and yall are gonna shit on him for it? honestly shame on all of you if its that hard then cheat.

 

[Warphorror]

I like the idea of selecting your availables combats actions and more diversity of techniques but the execution in battle is plain bad.
I find calling it a "card system" being a strech of what a card based gameplay is. Yes it has the appearance of cards but that's all, in battle it's random generator the game. Card already drawn doesn't affect possible future draw, effect of card is random meaning playing your dodge/shield card can be completely useless. The vulnerability due to horniness being random make it too unreliable for a deck game, player should have a mean to influence it by either by a card effect or a combination of gear + card for it to be worthwhile.
From a gameplay perspective once in battle it's down to rng the one to three card you put in your deck. The same problem with the masseuse mini-game if you don't randomly get the good type of action you just skip a turn. Going from a control and cooldown management gameplay to a random one is for many a downgrade.

Some hopefully helpfull suggestions:
- For the massage job an improvement would be to put breather on a cooldown rather than being random.
- Having the lewd crest rather than giving by end of gameplay a useless sensitivity reduction making it a maximum cap for the concerned bodypart with potentially the latter ones having a lower cap.
- Willpower and enemy arousal control tactics for the player?

 

[Velminth]

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I subscribe to the idea that games should be inclusive and consider adding accessibility options for people with disabilities

 

[SuceT]

there are 2 different when talking about game vs VN.

one is the granted and hopefully obvious acceptance that a _game_ should have gameplay elements, otherwise it's not a game. people fond of VNs need to understand that when people come to a porn _game_ website they're expecting to find games, not stories, otherwise they could just watch porn or read hentai doujin.

the other is the longer term realization of the unfortunate reality that the vast VAST majority of porn games are absolute garbage. it doesn't take you long trying RPG-M games over and over to see that the people making these games have absolutely no idea wtf they're doing, karryn's prison was an incredible blessing that this game is trying to recapture with its own imagining. how many more games are these devs going to shove down our throat with stupid non-sex combat with those same stock monster bat and rat to get useless experience and materials. we play porn games for the porn, and yet you have to slog through the most tedious non-porn activities for seemingly no fucking reason.

i have come to nowadays look exclusively for renpy VNs, not because they are better, but because the aggregate of the industry is so unforgivingly garbage but i can compensate this with a renpy builtin feature, going on options, checking "skip unseen", starting a new game and holding CTRL so skip all the stupid shit and straight to the parts i want.

I'm not agreeing at all. I can play a game without a whole lot of porn, only for the gameplay. The fact that you will get porn at some point give you a nice motivation. Games like the sequel series are okay but not outstanding from a gameplay standpoint (ost and story is pretty good tho), but the fact that you will get porn at some point give you motivation to play them.

Ren'py VN? They just suck. Don't care about your shitty story, don't care about your shitty CG that I could just look up at e-hentai if I don't have the satisfaction of actually playing the game to get them. So yeah, I prefer a shitty rpg maker game with 1 sex scene, than a Ren'py game with 100000 sex scenes that I could just look up on exhentai.

 

[qwerqwer1Q]

Speaking not of the gameplay, Velminth, I like your art. What tablet and software do you use? And do you think the type of tablet you have is hugely important to the end product?

 

[Velminth]

Speaking not of the gameplay, Velminth, I like your art. What tablet and software do you use? And do you think the type of tablet you have is hugely important to the end product?

Wacom Intuos M, software is Clip Studio.

Far as tablets : Nah all is fine but too small is a pain to get smooth lines, too big is more accurate but takes up space and requires big elbow motions which is not great. Medium sized is just perfect.

Additionally, screen tablets are expensive cancer and get covered in scratches, sweat, dead pixels and you can't see the whole drawing unless you take your hand off. Awful experience, do not recommend.

 

[DemonLord98]

I subscribe to the idea that games should be inclusive and consider adding accessibility options for people with disabilities

Sorry, it's not us dude. I am trying to be polite but the game balance is shit right now. Beat Karryn's Prison on the hardest difficulty. It was really hard, but the game has good balance. The card system could work if you really love it if you balance the game a lot better.

 

[Ezra Nobleheart]

Really enjoy the current version. Massage minigame is the best it's been yet! I do think the card system could use improvements. Maybe make it less RNG and more based on the choices you make. Have the game give you cards you don't have on your next turn, make the damage less random and not have willpower whittle down so fast. Just my two cents, don't have to change your plans because of me.

 

[uncommonsence]

Sorry, it's not us dude. I am trying to be polite but the game balance is shit right now. Beat Karryn's Prison on the hardest difficulty. It was really hard, but the game has good balance. The card system could work if you really love it if you balance the game a lot better.

beat it on a fresh run or after accumulating a hell ton of passives via loosing grind?


Can some1 please hint me on how to trigger several events I've missed? If it's not some kind of cutoff content?

 

[DemonLord98]

beat it on a fresh run or after accumulating a hell ton of passives via loosing grind?


Can some1 please hint me on several events I've missed? Or that's some cut off content?

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Fresh, it's really fucking hard. But predictable mostly when you learn the system. Minimal RNG.

 

[uncommonsence]

Fresh, it's really fucking hard. But predictable mostly when you learn the system. Minimal RNG.

cool

all builds or fighter only?

I've tried to do a slut run from fresh, but she either has no money on lvlups or ends being trapped in infinite orgasms due to skyrocketing sensitivity. Don't like to use guides, that's why my maximum is lizardmen floor.

Pure fighter looks doable, but...kinda senseless...

 

[DemonLord98]

cool

all builds or fighter only?

I've tried to do a slut run from fresh, but she either has no money on lvlups or ends being trapped in infinite orgasms due to skyrocketing sensitivity. Don't like to use guides, that's why my maximum is lizardmen floor.

Pure fighter looks doable, but...kinda senseless...

Agility bro. They can't beat you if they can't hit you. lol. Second stat dexterity. Cleave is a must. Slut really is "almost" impossible on a fresh run though.

 

[Some_Weeb]

I feel like I am the only person who likes the card based combat system.