Heranwen

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The Dev might as well add masturbating feature when mc watch them havin sex :LUL::KEK:
That would make me feel better tbh if the MC would be into it, he could actually feel 'happy' for her and himself, in a way. And still be friends, why not.

I enjoy NTR but some of the routes of this game were too cruel with the MC, man. I need to be purified. lol Great game though.
 

DA1725

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He doesnt know that the girl is actually Ryoka, AND if there were spying scenes it would be going into cucking area, not pure NTR.
I dont find exciting or interesting when the dude is watching and giving his thoughts while getting cucked, you guys are expecting the game to be something it is not. For NTR fans everything it's perfect. At the end, it depends on your taste, but don't expect the dev fuck up the game for real NTR fans just because you want a different fetish.
There's a HUGE difference between cucking + netorase AND pure NTR.
I would say majority of the ntrs at some point chart into the cuck/vouyerism territory and even if they dont one way or another there is some implied cucking or atleast vouyerism going on so it aint exactly wrong for some people to expect it and no one said they want to hear the dude's thoughts while the fucking is going on, even though I think he gives some thoughts in the ending scene at the beach. Personally I like the corruption and dont exactly like a girl falling after a single session. I said it was a missed opportunity as there are actually spying scenes in this game not pure ntr as you are implying and same goes for voyeurism as well. I dont know what exactly you mean by pure ntr but IMO this game was never meant to be pure ntr as you are given a diary and a phone which shows whats up and it is already implied that both ryoka and MC have feelings for each other and being able to see some scenes while spying doesnt exactly help to keep the cuck/voyeurism territory away. You are not seeing the whole picture here, you just want see the pure ntr part so you see that, even if we take a step back and say the mc doesnt know its ryoka but you as the player knows it her. This game is more of a mix of everything rather than pure ntr.
 

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I dont know what exactly you mean by pure ntr but IMO this game was never meant to be pure ntr as you are given a diary and a phone which shows whats up and it is already implied that both ryoka and MC have feelings for each other and "being able to see some scenes while spying"
You are the one that isnt seeing the whole picture, the point of this game is that the MC is clueless 95% of the game in almost every route until almost the end. He is not aware of what Ryoka is doing, only you as the player, and thats where the voyeurism comes, only we know what is happening. With the phone you can call Ryoka and know what is she doing, but the MC is so retarded that doesnt even think about it. The cuck - netorase territory comes with spying scenes 99% of the games that uses them, where the MC is giving his thoughts but never does anything about it, in this game there is no real spying scenes that I remember where the MC is willingly watching Ryoka and someone else doing something. The only one is the final route with the dude of the sauna, i played the game long ago so I could be forgetting one or two. One voyeurism scene that comes into mind is the one with Oyama where theyre doing it behind some trees and you can see it but the MC isnt aware of what is happening.
I think that you can compare this game with Boy Hero Ken in some aspects but in this one the MC discovers what was happening until the literal final scene (in some routes). Voyeurism != Netorase or cucking.
 

Cowperfluid

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Is everyone an ass in this game? I was expecting Daisuke to be a bro as he had the personality but he gets off on humiliating MC too it seems. The whole pettyness from Ryoko dating him due to a fight with MC hit close to home with me. That hurt. Still good game as far as ntr smut goes. Gave me similar gut punching as NTRPG series I tried recently. Speaking of which i'm in dire need of some bleach for my heart now.

Scars of summer: After looks interesting, here is what i can understang from the history so far.
-Its a sequel and a interlude to explain some events that were mentioned on the first game
-In a diary it shows events from Ryoka´s life that werent on the first game
Can you elaborate on this? What events were mentioned that werent shown
 
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ktez

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Is everyone an ass in this game? I was expecting Daisuke to be a bro as he had the personality but he gets off on humiliating MC too it seems. The whole pettyness from Ryoko dating him due to a fight with MC hit close to home with me. That hurt. Still good game as far as ntr smut goes. Gave me similar gut punching as NTRPG series I tried recently. Speaking of which i'm in dire need of some bleach for my heart now.



Can you elaborate on this? What events were mentioned that werent shown
Probably he's referring to the other childhood friend Ryoka had
 

Heranwen

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Wait, this game is a sequel?

Is everyone an ass in this game? I was expecting Daisuke to be a bro as he had the personality but he gets off on humiliating MC too it seems. The whole pettyness from Ryoko dating him due to a fight with MC hit close to home with me. That hurt. Still good game as far as ntr smut goes. Gave me similar gut punching as NTRPG series I tried recently. Speaking of which i'm in dire need of some bleach for my heart now.
lol I feel the same. I kinda thought the beginning of the Daisuke route to be really wholesome, he was nice and Ryoka liked him. He had the guts and conquered her fair and square. But the ending was really depressing, with the way the MC is treated after the reunion.

I think the Masaru route (SPOILERS) was the most fulfilling of the NTR options, since he was also a childhood friend of hers, was a victim of bully and Ryoka cared about him to the point of saving the guy (she was always on character). He later regrets being part of the foolery and showed that he really loved her. If you take out the NTR (and Masaru being resentful towards the MC for always being the 'other'), is a surprising wholesome childhood friends to lovers/the loser gets the girl trope.
 

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Can you elaborate on this? What events were mentioned that werent shown
Scars of Summer After will have extra scenes to compliment the six main routes of the game along with explaining what happens to Ryoka during the normal ending, going into her relationship with Kurosaki.

The way the demo works is that you start as Keita in an unknown timeline, lose your memories after getting a mysterious package, and then (in the final version) are able to select one of the seven routes to see extra stories from. The overarching theme of the game seems to be about Keita trying to correct his memories somehow.


Wait, this game is a sequel?
No, the author is working on a small side story that's mostly a compliment to the game in discussion here. It's tentative English title would likely be "Scars of Summer After".


My Japanese isn't the best, but looking through the Author's blog where he held a poll on what routes people thought had the most NTR (Yasui's won), he thought that the Daisuke route had the strongest NTR in the game since some guy Ryoka just meets out of nowhere with no connection to just comes in and steals her from you.
 

zmhzmh

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Really like the game. Love the clapping and slurping sound effects. Huge turn-on for me. Plot could be better and I would prefer even more NTR. Make Ryoka his gf or wife and not a childhood friend. Or Saki being the MCs sister, not Ryokas. An ending in which you see cum covered divorce papers while you hear her ass getting pounded would be even hotter imo. But thats not everyone's cup of tea :D
 

Heranwen

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Scars of Summer After will have extra scenes to compliment the six main routes of the game along with explaining what happens to Ryoka during the normal ending, going into her relationship with Kurosaki.

The way the demo works is that you start as Keita in an unknown timeline, lose your memories after getting a mysterious package, and then (in the final version) are able to select one of the seven routes to see extra stories from. The overarching theme of the game seems to be about Keita trying to correct his memories somehow.



No, the author is working on a small side story that's mostly a compliment to the game in discussion here. It's tentative English title would likely be "Scars of Summer After".


My Japanese isn't the best, but looking through the Author's blog where he held a poll on what routes people thought had the most NTR (Yasui's won), he thought that the Daisuke route had the strongest NTR in the game since some guy Ryoka just meets out of nowhere with no connection to just comes in and steals her from you.
Nice. I kinda agree with the author, the ending of the Daisuke route and the MC being totally aware that he is losing the girl and not being able to do nothing, even years after she marrying the other guy and still loving her was heavy NTR.

I'm currently playing the Keita route. It's funny how it looks like a complete harmless/romantic game if you don't interact with any of the guys. Heard that this vanilla route doesn't have much content. If all the routes are getting extra scenes, hope this one gets something too. The childhood memories does make me feel warm towards the MC and Ryoka.
 

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Does she know that you know she's cheating? Or does she do it behind his back while MC does nothing about it and just watches, while she has no idea MC is watching?

How do you see this scene?
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Why the fuck doesn't the game just put you outside then? By letting you stay inside this place, it implies that you're able to do something to watch the sex scene, but there doesn't seem to be anyway to do so. It should just make you go outside automatically.
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Uhhh, Hmm, if the game is asking me for confirmation to go outside, then it must mean I've missed something important inside.
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DUDE. It turns out you can only see this scene later by checking her notebook. So you somehow see it in the past? WTF, that makes no sense. I might as well just alt tab and look at the scene on pornhub or something. Fucking terrible game design.

This is completely immersion breaking. I can't believe people like this style of gameplay, it's complete shit.

This isn't fucking rocket science. You either spy on her in that moment, or you don't. If you can't spy on her, the game should tell you that so you don't waste your time. Another dumb shit developer.

I mean, let's say you wait outside, then you sneak around the back and watch, okay that makes sense. But to read a notebook later or have a scene just pop into a recollection room? WHY EVEN PLAY THE GAME THEN, you might as well just download a 100% save and look at the recollection room, dumb shit dev.

LINK TO 100% SAVE GAME: https://f95zone.to/threads/scars-of-summer-v1-03-shinachiku-castella-kagura-games.55259/post-5641214

This is not how you do NTR, this is the worst fucking way to do NTR. The MC somehow magically reads all the characters mind. Fucking terrible. The MC literally stands there, says nothing, does nothing. This is terrible. He has to engage in some kind of dialogue that reflects he wants to romance her and win her over, or you pick the option in which he acts like a complete fool and coward. This isn't rocket science, how do you fuck up something so simple? YOU HAD ONE JOB.
This is how I understood this types of games:(or how I choose to)
The MC and girl like each other but are still in basic/casual mode. Both are nervous or unsure about the situation. Then as the game moves forward someone comes along and is more aggressive in their goal to be with the girl. As a result girl is more clear of the new guys mind. At this point the MC should make sure to make his feelings clear if not the girl will surmise that the MC is not serious or was never interested in the first place. As a result the Girl moves on to another. The MC left alone. This is what most of the games in this theme have as stories.

For the Player i.e us the enjoyment comes in various ways:

-We can simply enjoy the CGs and move on. The story is for context if you needed one.(This is true for any Horny human who likes the art but doesn't care for the fetish or context)

-We can also enjoy as NTR fetish where we the Player knows that when the MC is doing something else the Girls are with some one else and moving away from MC. Here Player can take anyone's POV and enjoy. For example I see the pics mentioned above or the CGs that can only be seen via the diary as the game directly communicating with the Players and not the MC. I see that as MC has no idea, this is a gameplay trick for our fetish. I don't see the scenes as MC spying but as Games telling us that : While the MC is standing on the corridor looking at wall or doing anything this is what happened with the girl. NTR fetish in this type of games preys upon our paranoias.

-We can also enjoy the games like this with the RPG maker gameplay as moving around from one scene to another to maximize the feels and give some more time to get into Role Play or prevent us from directly looking at all the CGs in one go and blow the load instantly though this an option available for those that want to do exactly this. The gameplay, it may be any engine also gives context from one CG to another.

This was my one perspective. There are more ways this can be enjoyed that many other will say. It just seems that this type of game is not for you so your best bet is to just do what you said. But now you know what to do for the other games similar to this.
 
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Cowperfluid

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My understanding was MC knows for most of the routes what's going on he's just so far in denial about it. I believe in the Oyama route he said as much while peeping in the shrine. Question is.. is Ryoka really so honest in her diary MC could get so much detail out of it for a CG flashback or is it just for gameplay? lol

Also what is the caution/self stat you can raise at the shrine for? Does it just affect the chance that Ryoka doesnt do anything lewd that day?
 

Heranwen

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By the way, during the memory 4, the little boy (younger Keita) says that Ryoka has a scar on her past, does anyone knows what that is?

My understanding was MC knows for most of the routes what's going on he's just so far in denial about it. I believe in the Oyama route he said as much while peeping in the shrine. Question is.. is Ryoka really so honest in her diary MC could get so much detail out of it for a CG flashback or is it just for gameplay? lol
Yeah, I do think the MC knows or at least suspect what's going on. Looks like he copes with denial or wishful thinking. And I don't think Ryoka wrote all the dialogue on her diary, I think the CG and the flashback and details are just for the player, not the MC.
 
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ktez

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By the way, during the memory 4, the little boy (younger Keita) says that Ryoka has a scar on her past, does anyone knows what that is?
My theory is that it's foreshadowing her other childhood friend and an event with him that is refered to in the demo of the sequel
 
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Heranwen

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My theory is that it's foreshadowing her other childhood friend and an event with him that is refered to in the demo of the sequel
She has another childhood friend? hmm I think the author should have referrenced them on the story (like he did with Masaru), or at least Keita should know about it since they grew up together ever since they were born in the village. Well, it could be the case.

Or maybe the scar is just the lack of confidence/self esteem she has after several failures to confess her feelings and made her shut down them deep inside her. :unsure:
 

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She has another childhood friend? hmm I think the author should have referrenced them on the story (like he did with Masaru), or at least Keita should know about it since they grew up together ever since they were born in the village. Well, it could be the case.

Or maybe the scar is just the lack of confidence/self esteem she has after several failures to confess her feelings and made her shut down them deep inside her. :unsure:
Well, that other friend's house isn't in the village, rather it's the house (Kurosaki's house) on the east side of the town (not the city), so it wouldn't really come up in conversation in the village. He also doesn't play a role in any route other than the Normal End and even then, the relationship as a childhood friend is only a passing mention.
 

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Well, that other friend's house isn't in the village, rather it's the house (Kurosaki's house) on the east side of the town (not the city), so it wouldn't really come up in conversation in the village. He also doesn't play a role in any route other than the Normal End and even then, the relationship as a childhood friend is only a passing mention.
I see. I remember going with her to that house and she mentions that the name sounds familiar but she doesn't have any bad memories of it - maybe he is just someone she met briefly as a kid, without being too attached.

I looked some posts about the sequel, and this Kurosaki guy is someone she would meet again after the events of the game if we get the normal ending (Keita and Ryoka part ways). So, still, it doesn't feel like this would be the "scar" that younger Keita mentioned. Also, assuming Keita doesn't know about Ryoka and Kurosaki, he couldn't even mention it this to his future self (?). During the true love route she mentions she loved Keita ever since the beginning, so unless she completely erased Kurosaki from her memory due to some trauma, I think the scar might be other thing.
 
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