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Jake Pauls

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May 20, 2018
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Burnout is real, and I wish him the best. Hope he feels happy, healthy and rejuvenated when he comes back. I have a feeling it is criticism that got to him. Especially the first part of Season of Loss people had some problems with how it played out; as did I. But that's neither here nor there.

I don't really check in on here much, but I have sneaking suspicion NTRMAN might occasionally lurk and why the criticism got him, and my god just looking at last few pages. The amount of dumb takes. You have one guy crying about bestiality content, while screaming puritan Christian-like ramblings, and another arguing about age. If this is all you read and have DM'd to you then it is bound to get at you.

Fixing the age is easy. You all need to switch and support him on Fanbox, as long as Pateron is the biggest piece of the pie, his hands are tied creatively imho. The bestiality thing too, looking at the trello board a user posted a few pages back, it seems to be a side path content, optional, something you can skip. No need to cry about it. Not every porn game needs to be made for your tastes.

As for Satoshi's character growth. We won't know until we see it for sure. They guy arguing about character growth, becoming a beach boy, and height, saying things like you're locked in at 18-20 has to be the biggest idiot of them all. Just reading these past few pages I have lost brain cells.

The only constructive criticism I have for NTRMAN games is pacing, and length, or lack thereof. If each of his parts were at least 50% longer if not more, then it would be a much more superior product in my opinion.

To close off, I wish him the best again, I hope he comes back a new man, and hope someday in the future he focuses and manages to get support on Fanbox, enough that he gets his creative freedom, and does not have to jump through hoops on Pateron.
 
Nov 18, 2019
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It's probably for the best, the last year of his content has pretty much been shit and it seems like he put alot of effort into it which has to be the biggest kick in the balls for him. It's disappointing to see a creator that used to put out great games like adelaide regress to putting out pitiful excuses like what he has been recently. I say take a brake rather than embarrass yourself further.
 

ramborock

Newbie
Oct 19, 2020
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He kept saying that i do what i want but at some point you have to listen to the criticisms of the people who pay for your product and actually give you a living.
Hopefully he understands what his fans want from him and maybe if he is not able then he hires someone or asks the help of some other NTR creators who create excellent storylines.
I dropped my patreon when he said he makes what he likes and not what we people like.
I just think he might not be that same guy that made all those awesome NTR games and some help might do him good.
Lot of other creators also lose their love for a genre as they grow in their life. maybe get a gf or get married, have a child. Goldenboy literally lost his grandma to covid. all personal factors play a role. His art , his overall work is still great though so a little help and VOILA!.
 

Jake Pauls

Newbie
May 20, 2018
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63
It's probably for the best, the last year of his content has pretty much been shit and it seems like he put alot of effort into it which has to be the biggest kick in the balls for him. It's disappointing to see a creator that used to put out great games like adelaide regress to putting out pitiful excuses like what he has been recently. I say take a brake rather than embarrass yourself further.
What a retarded comment. Vitriolic for no reason. Not to white knight for him, but outside of the current length of his games and writing, the current games surpass anything he is done in the past. Hell even his past games have had length and writing issues, so I don't know what you mean when you claim his older stuff was better. AI's only plus is how well written Mira is compared to the rest of the women.

-Art
-Animation
-Voices
-Sound/Music
-UX detail

None of these were better in older games compared to the newer ones.



He kept saying that i do what i want but at some point you have to listen to the criticisms of the people who pay for your product and actually give you a living.
Hopefully he understands what his fans want from him and maybe if he is not able then he hires someone or asks the help of some other NTR creators who create excellent storylines.
I dropped my patreon when he said he makes what he likes and not what we people like.
I just think he might not be that same guy that made all those awesome NTR games and some help might do him good.
Lot of other creators also lose their love for a genre as they grow in their life. maybe get a gf or get married, have a child. Goldenboy literally lost his grandma to covid. all personal factors play a role. His art , his overall work is still great though so a little help and VOILA!.
I do agree he really needs to listen to criticism more. If everyone is telling you to work on a certain aspect and its the overwhelming majority, then you have to consider it. Don't blindly follow what your fans want, but also don't have such an ego where only you think you know what is right.
 

Reyas

Active Member
Oct 11, 2020
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Eh, it's fine. Maybe writer's block, maybe RL issues, maybe he just can't be bothered to continue atm. It's all adequate.

He's young enough that I doubt he'll up and Kentaro Miura on us.
 
Nov 18, 2019
120
459
What a retarded comment. Vitriolic for no reason. Not to white knight for him, but outside of the current length of his games and writing, the current games surpass anything he is done in the past. Hell even his past games have had length and writing issues, so I don't know what you mean when you claim his older stuff was better. AI's only plus is how well written Mira is compared to the rest of the women.

-Art
-Animation
-Voices
-Sound/Music
-UX detail

None of these were better in older games compared to the newer ones.





I do agree he really needs to listen to criticism more. If everyone is telling you to work on a certain aspect and its the overwhelming majority, then you have to consider it. Don't blindly follow what your fans want, but also don't have such an ego where only you think you know what is right.
"not to white knight for him..." he says after writing paragraphs white knighting for him
-Art-same
-Animation-waste of time
-Voices-who cares I turn them off
-Sound/Music-same
-UX detail-same/worse
-Story/Scene setup-way worse
"AI's only plus is how well written Mira is compared to the rest of the women." yeah that's kinda the point season 3's women all suck I don't like any of them
 

Jake Pauls

Newbie
May 20, 2018
26
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"not to white knight for him..." he says after writing paragraphs white knighting for him
-Art-same
-Animation-waste of time
-Voices-who cares I turn them off
-Sound/Music-same
-UX detail-same/worse
-Story/Scene setup-way worse
"AI's only plus is how well written Mira is compared to the rest of the women." yeah that's kinda the point season 3's women all suck I don't like any of them
Reading comprehension may not be your strong suit, "not to white knight" is an expression but regardless, I told you above his older content was worse in almost every way possible in comparison to his new ones how is that a white knight? You also seem to be blind as a bat

1. The art is not the same. It is objectively better on a technical level to say otherwise means you're blind
2. Animations being a waste of time is a YOU thing, it is subjective. Regardless of what you think, Animations being in a game is an objective improvement to not having them.
3. Who cares if YOU turn them off. Your whole claim was past games were better. They didn't have this, so in this regard they are objectively worse.
4. Sound and musics kind of play into the voice in sex scenes, so you don't only hear the same monotonous royalty free music. For other parts of the game you can see he tries to go for more different sounds now that fit the mood, but I guess this is subjective at the end of the day.
5. UX detail is objectively better again.
6. Story/Scene if you mean to your likeness then that's subjective, idiot. If you mean writing prowess and scene length then that is equal if not worse in the past.
- RH1: not that long of a game, scenes were subpar, and the writing was about as good as anything we currently get
- ASV: not finished axed
- AI: Short sex scenes, not all routes were fleshed out. Still writing wise for the female MC is his best game, and his longest too
- ML: Literally released in an unfinished state. short sex scenes, and writing was rushed.
- Queen: Short story, and short scenes.

You can like his older games more, but to come out and claim they are somehow leagues apart from his new ones in quality is just demonstrably wrong.
 

Reyas

Active Member
Oct 11, 2020
568
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-Art -Animation -Voices -Sound/Music -UX detail
None of these were better in older games compared to the newer ones.
Those are all technicals though. Hmm.

In terms of things like story, character, premise, world-building and arguably the designs as well (Ex: Mitsuko & the Queen BTFO any of his new female characters), the other guy has a point. NTRMAN's productions are irrefutably superior on the technical side compared to his old works but that's not what the other guy was talking about. I'm not sure if you're trolling or if you actually missed his point but you listed basically everything EXCEPT what he obviously meant.

I agree with him that Adelaide Inn was NTRMAN's best work. It had great designs, a lot of variety and it actually 'felt' like a game or as close as you can get from such a VN. If he updated Adelaide Inn with technicals on the level of his newer stuff, it would be his magnum opus, IMO.
 

superofla

Member
Apr 8, 2020
124
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It's probably for the best, the last year of his content has pretty much been shit and it seems like he put alot of effort into it which has to be the biggest kick in the balls for him. It's disappointing to see a creator that used to put out great games like adelaide regress to putting out pitiful excuses like what he has been recently. I say take a brake rather than embarrass yourself further.
and who make a game let me play? you?
 
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