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ELDuran2K4

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Two questions:

1) When will the new maid be implemented?
2) I was told in the beginning of the game that I would have to pay the maids. I've yet to pay them a single dime. Are they going to work for free forever?
 
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Here's my somewhat attempt at a "Guide" for those interested, based on what I've learned and know so far, this is just my assessment after playing around for awhile.

Don't waste any of your money on buying items for charm, appearance/ looks, lust/ lewdness etc. If you do buy any items just get the energy drinks.

Don't waste any of your money on upgrading the three main girls, I would argue it's a waste of money because there's not too big of an emphasis on their shared skills. If you upgrade them, just get the big major exclusive to themselves skills, if you do upgrade their shared skills ("Shared Skills" such as Care, Flirt, Take Out, and Send Text/ Exchanging Contact Info with Clients). It's best that if you do upgrade those Shared Skills, don't bother trying to max them out, just get one point in each if you must. Otherwise just focus on Upgrading Rai's, Cookie's & Cynthia's Independent skills.

- For Cynthia, upgrade Synth-IA (when it becomes available) it's not completely necessary but at least the Maids will check out clients by themselves without you having to click on them. Focus more particularly on upgrading her Distraction & Just A Number skills.

- For Cookie, upgrade 3Cookie, Book of Secrets, Foresight, and Apologetic.

- For Rai, upgrade Mind Break & Menacing Presence

Again, if you MUST upgrade any of their Shared Skills, don't bother dumping too much money in them, just one skill point in each is enough.

The point to highlight here is that Ame becomes your SUPER MAID, she's literally your biggest money grind mega milker. Your three other Main Maid girls can just sit in the Back Rooms all day because once Ame's skills are maxed out there's almost no reason at all that you don't end a day without raking in between 6k-14k depending on what clients enter the cafe during the day.

((Edit: In fact, this is partly the only reason it might be completely and totally unnecessary to even bother upgrading Cynthia's Synth-IA skill upgrade, because this would give you optimal time to check out all clients without a stressful hassle of cycling Ame onto the clients on time before they check themselves out. So in my eyes, Synth-IA is an almost completely useless skill, it makes no sense at all to begin with that clients don't check themselves out unless Cynthia gets that Synth-IA skill but meh, it is what it is.))

((((((Dev, if you're reading, at the very least understand some points to this from the perspective of those playing your game. You're doing a good job and I appreciate your efforts.))))))

Don't waste needlessly on drag & dropping a clients orders, just enough to keep them "Happy" so their gray bar goes green, then remain green by letting an order remain unfulfilled (basically if they ask for a Hotdog, drag & drop the hotdog to get their Happiness meter to go from grey to green, then wait until they want another order of Coffee/ Tea/ whatever & just don't fulfill that order), then let them stay there until they're ready to check out. If you have Synth-IA skill, you'll have to hurry & be quick enough to check them out with Ame and don't forget to cycle between the customer/ clients with her, this is how you get maximized profit from Ame's skills.

- For Ame, upgrade her Lone Wolf & Stalker skills to max.

- For Ame, because she is your SUPER MAID, I would stress more heavily to focus on upgrading her "Shared Skills" such as Care, Flirt, Take Out & Send Text after upgrading her Lone Wolf & Stalker skills maxed out.

- For Ame, use her own Benefit that benefits herself being alone with Sergil in the Cafe.

Ame's Stalker skill is the reason why it's unnecessary for you to buy items for appearance, charm, and lewdness, because she's basically a Klepto, she will bring Sergil a random item once per day, maxing out the Stalker skill just increases the chance that she randomly gives Sergil a more rare item. If you're worried about leveling up a Maids appearance, charm, lewdness etc. then the best way to do it is just have Ame bring in those random items daily since it also saves your money.

I would rotate the other three main girls around the Back Room to clean in the closet and the other two to just sit and rest in the break room, you rotate them between the closet to clean and the break room because the one cleaning will gradually lose their energy.

Again, focusing on increase Ame's skills as your highest priority is what gives you your fastest money making grind thus far from what I've seen. It's literally your best and fastest way to make money.

As for what clients to tend to based on money making priority, I would focus more heavily on saving and only using the Care skill on the Lonely Housewife client, whom gives the largest tips but slow to order and fast sit time. There's also a blue haired client, he gives increased tips depending on how high the Maids Lewdness factor is. After that it's the Jock, just have Cynthia tend to him with Care and he gives her the bigger tips.

Out of all the clients the Cafe gets so far, those main three clients (House Wife, Jock, and blue haired guy), are the best choices to increase your tip money faster when you actually fulfill their orders. The other clients give such a low amount of tip money it's almost not worth fulfilling their orders, just once is enough to make them happy and no more than that.

That's about the best advice I can give for a "Guide" so far. Once Ame is maxed out, to increase your money making grind faster, upgrade Cynthia, Rai, and Cookie for the Glory Hole and/ or the VIP rooms. It's also strongly recommended to max out the Break Room & Closet Backrooms first, and then use Ame to save enough money after that to pick up the Career, Promo rooms for the Idea Points so you can have the little mini-camera for the Glory Hole room. Again, doing this there shouldn't be any problems making around 6k to 14k per day depending on what clients show up for Ame to tend to.

edit: Also, using Ame as your lone maid in the Cafe, she's the best at upgrading Sergils Cafe skills as well.
 
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PowWow

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Here's my somewhat attempt at a "Guide" for those interested, based on what I've learned and know so far, this is just my assessment after playing around for awhile.

Don't waste any of your money on buying items for charm, appearance/ looks, lust/ lewdness etc. If you do buy any items just get the energy drinks.

Don't waste any of your money on upgrading the three main girls, I would argue it's a waste of money because there's not too big of an emphasis on their shared skills. If you upgrade them, just get the big major exclusive to themselves skills, if you do upgrade their shared skills ("Shared Skills" such as Care, Flirt, Take Out, and Send Text/ Exchanging Contact Info with Clients). It's best that if you do upgrade those Shared Skills, don't bother trying to max them out, just get one point in each if you must. Otherwise just focus on Upgrading Rai's, Cookie's & Cynthia's Independent skills.

- For Cynthia, upgrade Synth-IA (when it becomes available) it's not completely necessary but at least the Maids will check out clients by themselves without you having to click on them. Focus more particularly on upgrading her Distraction & Just A Number skills.

- For Cookie, upgrade 3Cookie, Book of Secrets, Foresight, and Apologetic.

- For Rai, upgrade Mind Break & Menacing Presence

Again, if you MUST upgrade any of their Shared Skills, don't bother dumping too much money in them, just one skill point in each is enough.

The point to highlight here is that Ame becomes your SUPER MAID, she's literally your biggest money grind mega milker. Your three other Main Maid girls can just sit in the Back Rooms all day because once Ame's skills are maxed out there's almost no reason at all that you don't end a day without raking in between 6k-14k depending on what clients enter the cafe during the day.

((Edit: In fact, this is partly the only reason it might be completely and totally unnecessary to even bother upgrading Cynthia's Synth-IA skill upgrade, because this would give you optimal time to check out all clients without a stressful hassle of cycling Ame onto the clients on time before they check themselves out. So in my eyes, Synth-IA is an almost completely useless skill, it makes no sense at all to begin with that clients don't check themselves out unless Cynthia gets that Synth-IA skill but meh, it is what it is.))

((((((Dev, if you're reading, at the very least understand some points to this from the perspective of those playing your game. You're doing a good job and I appreciate your efforts.))))))

Don't waste needlessly on drag & dropping a clients orders, just enough to keep them "Happy" so their gray bar goes green, then remain green by letting an order remain unfulfilled (basically if they ask for a Hotdog, drag & drop the hotdog to get their Happiness meter to go from grey to green, then wait until they want another order of Coffee/ Tea/ whatever & just don't fulfill that order), then let them stay there until they're ready to check out. If you have Synth-IA skill, you'll have to hurry & be quick enough to check them out with Ame and don't forget to cycle between the customer/ clients with her, this is how you get maximized profit from Ame's skills.

- For Ame, upgrade her Lone Wolf & Stalker skills to max.

- For Ame, because she is your SUPER MAID, I would stress more heavily to focus on upgrading her "Shared Skills" such as Care, Flirt, Take Out & Send Text after upgrading her Lone Wolf & Stalker skills maxed out.

- For Ame, use her own Benefit that benefits herself being alone with Sergil in the Cafe.

Ame's Stalker skill is the reason why it's unnecessary for you to buy items for appearance, charm, and lewdness, because she's basically a Klepto, she will bring Sergil a random item once per day, maxing out the Stalker skill just increases the chance that she randomly gives Sergil a more rare item. If you're worried about leveling up a Maids appearance, charm, lewdness etc. then the best way to do it is just have Ame bring in those random items daily since it also saves your money.

I would rotate the other three main girls around the Back Room to clean in the closet and the other two to just sit and rest in the break room, you rotate them between the closet to clean and the break room because the one cleaning will gradually lose their energy.

Again, focusing on increase Ame's skills as your highest priority is what gives you your fastest money making grind thus far from what I've seen. It's literally your best and fastest way to make money.

As for what clients to tend to based on money making priority, I would focus more heavily on saving and only using the Care skill on the Lonely Housewife client, whom gives the largest tips but slow to order and fast sit time. There's also a blue haired client, he gives increased tips depending on how high the Maids Lewdness factor is. After that it's the Jock, just have Cynthia tend to him with Care and he gives her the bigger tips.

Out of all the clients the Cafe gets so far, those main three clients (House Wife, Jock, and blue haired guy), are the best choices to increase your tip money faster when you actually fulfill their orders. The other clients give such a low amount of tip money it's almost not worth fulfilling their orders, just once is enough to make them happy and no more than that.

That's about the best advice I can give for a "Guide" so far. Once Ame is maxed out, to increase your money making grind faster, upgrade Cynthia, Rai, and Cookie for the Glory Hole and/ or the VIP rooms. It's also strongly recommended to max out the Break Room & Closet Backrooms first, and then use Ame to save enough money after that to pick up the Career, Promo rooms for the Idea Points so you can have the little mini-camera for the Glory Hole room. Again, doing this there shouldn't be any problems making around 6k to 14k per day depending on what clients show up for Ame to tend to.

edit: Also, using Ame as your lone maid in the Cafe, she's the best at upgrading Sergils Cafe skills as well.
I'm not sure if this is still the case or if it's been patched in recent updates, but at least for the majority of the games life cycle Synth-IA is actually an extremely negative and counter-productive perk because you make far more money through checking customers out using Take-Out.
Basically, wait until a big spenders time is running out, then use Care to increase the money, then wait for the timer to end and use Take-Out to multiply all that money even more. Even in the late game you rarely ever use all 8 of your available Take-Out's (10 counting Sergil's) in a single day with this method so this has been my go-to method to optimize my income.
 
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I'm not sure if this is still the case or if it's been patched in recent updates, but at least for the majority of the games life cycle Synth-IA is actually an extremely negative and counter-productive perk because you make far more money through checking customers out using Take-Out.
Basically, wait until a big spenders time is running out, then use Care to increase the money, then wait for the timer to end and use Take-Out to multiply all that money even more. Even in the late game you rarely ever use all 8 of your available Take-Out's (10 counting Sergil's) in a single day with this method so this has been my go-to method to optimize my income.
Hasn't been patched yet and I agree. Synth-IA is a pretty useless skill to begin with, I find it weird by itself that you need a skill just for clients to be able to check themselves out but it's a welcomed skill as well in some situations. I guess I shouldn't exactly call it "useless" as there are times when the skill feels useful, but more like the skill is pointless as it's just another skill to lose money over that holds very little meaning in terms of making the game more fun, as an argument before by the Dev, said that he's tried removing the necessity of drag & drop function to fulfill client orders but said it felt boring so he reverted back to the drag & drop function -- Synth-IA to me feels very much the same way except it isn't just making game play boring, it's just almost pointless to have. Synth-IA should be reworked into something different. I'd find it to be more useful if Synth-IA was a skill that removed the unnecessary anti-fun tediousness of having to drag & drop items to fulfill a clients orders, can't tell you how many times the drag & drop function annoyed the hell out of me fumbling around to fulfill an order in time before a client checks themselves out.

But yes, the Take Out skill especially when combined with the Care skill does indeed maximize profits. It's just that at the very earliest days length in the game (if you're under sub-50 days it's way too early and unnecessary spending money on leveling up those skill points across 3 Main Maids, it's best spent saving that money up to immediately max out Ame's skills if possible when she's unlocked and then just let Ame take over the cafe duties for awhile.) It takes way too long otherwise if you're struggling to save up trying to upgrade 3 Maids plus Sergil over the long term. Took me about almost 100 days upgrading those three in one play through, and on the second play through I tried something different & focused entirely on Ame, and holy hell Ame is a Godsend. What took the three main Maids almost 100+ days to max out upgrade skills to maximize profits Ame could do in under 50 depending on how soon you can unlock her.
 
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Hasn't been patched yet and I agree. Synth-IA is a pretty useless skill to begin with, I find it weird by itself that you need a skill just for clients to be able to check themselves out but it's a welcomed skill as well in some situations. I guess I shouldn't exactly call it "useless" as there are times when the skill feels useful, but more like the skill is pointless as it's just another skill to lose money over that holds very little meaning in terms of making the game more fun, as an argument before by the Dev, said that he's tried removing the necessity of drag & drop function to fulfill client orders but said it felt boring so he reverted back to the drag & drop function -- Synth-IA to me feels very much the same way except it isn't just making game play boring, it's just almost pointless to have. Synth-IA should be reworked into something different. I'd find it to be more useful if Synth-IA was a skill that removed the unnecessary anti-fun tediousness of having to drag & drop items to fulfill a clients orders, can't tell you how many times the drag & drop function annoyed the hell out of me fumbling around to fulfill an order in time before a client checks themselves out.

But yes, the Take Out skill especially when combined with the Care skill does indeed maximize profits. It's just that at the very earliest days length in the game (if you're under sub-50 days it's way too early and unnecessary spending money on leveling up those skill points across 3 Main Maids, it's best spent saving that money up to immediately max out Ame's skills if possible when she's unlocked and then just let Ame take over the cafe duties for awhile.) It takes way too long otherwise if you're struggling to save up trying to upgrade 3 Maids plus Sergil over the long term. Took me about almost 100 days upgrading those three in one play through, and on the second play through I tried something different & focused entirely on Ame, and holy hell Ame is a Godsend. What took the three main Maids almost 100+ days to max out upgrade skills to maximize profits Ame could do in under 50 depending on how soon you can unlock her.
That's very fair, my memory of the early game struggles is vague at best since I always go back to my savefile a couple hundred days along with every Skill unlocked because with the RNG nature of the cut-ins I still have plenty of gallery to unlock even on that file and I've only done the Gloryhole grind for Rai so far since it's even more RNG and Sergil's Skill to invite people to the Backrooms can only do so much.
 

HaseoOfDeath

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Two questions:

1) When will the new maid be implemented?
2) I was told in the beginning of the game that I would have to pay the maids. I've yet to pay them a single dime. Are they going to work for free forever?
1. Alex just mentioned the new maid for the first time in awhile on the Discord. But there is still no ETA but there is a Friday tease tomorrow. We'll see
2. Payment and the Loan that Sergil and Cynthia took out at the beginning hasn't been implemented either. Alex has said this will happen but again, not ETA
 

justinthere

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Apr 19, 2020
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Hello!

Start play from begin in 0.8.44 end get error

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ERROR in action number 1
of Create Event for object obj_gangscoutwalkaway:
Variable <unknown_object>.path_clientnosit(103478, -2147483648) not set before reading it.
at gml_Object_obj_gangscoutwalkaway_Create_0
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gml_Object_obj_gangscoutwalkaway_Create_0 (line -1)
gml_Object_obj_gangscoutsitting1_Destroy_0 (line -1)
gml_Object_obj_gangscoutsitting1_Step_0 (line -1)
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Hope you fix it soon, game seems very good. Thank you for work.
 

RareAlexDev

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Hello!

Start play from begin in 0.8.44 end get error

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ERROR in action number 1
of Create Event for object obj_gangscoutwalkaway:
Variable <unknown_object>.path_clientnosit(103478, -2147483648) not set before reading it.
at gml_Object_obj_gangscoutwalkaway_Create_0
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gml_Object_obj_gangscoutwalkaway_Create_0 (line -1)
gml_Object_obj_gangscoutsitting1_Destroy_0 (line -1)
gml_Object_obj_gangscoutsitting1_Step_0 (line -1)
___________________________________________

Hope you fix it soon, game seems very good. Thank you for work.
Hey, please go over to itch.io and download the 44.3 version I uploaded few hours ago, it has a lot of bug fixes + a lot of hidden bugfixes that I forgot to mention, this bug being one of them.
 

hornysilver

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Hey, please go over to itch.io and download the 44.3 version I uploaded few hours ago, it has a lot of bug fixes + a lot of hidden bugfixes that I forgot to mention, this bug being one of them.
Is it under a different title on itch.io because I can't seem to find it?
 

Pissit

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Good game but kind of weird how you can upgrade all the skills so the girls are banging in the lobby but wont use the glory hole
 

Sappog08

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Dec 1, 2020
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Does anyone know where can i find the save file? I dont want to lose progress should i change laptop. I checked the Win+r option with %appdata% roaming but couldn't find the Secret_Care_Cafe folder as instructed here. If it helps, I also installed and uninstalled the game several times, Initially in C: and later on and currently in D:.
 
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