Semantics

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Apr 28, 2017
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I think the key lies the the origin of Patreon's name: patron.

Historically speaking creative endeavors were a poor way to make a living, if you wanted any sort of stability you had to attract a patron. Essentially a rich person that was willing to pay for your living expenses so that you could focus on your art. Patrons didn't do this for a return or their investment, they did it for the prestige of discovering and cultivating talent.
This isn't really true.

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Since, people are on the topic of these long running games. I have always been curious. How much have you guys spent on this game? Have you been supporting from the start? Will you keep supporting for another 5 years or say enough is enough after a certain year limit?

Honestly, I don't care what people do with their money. It is theirs. I'm just curious how gamer's mindset works on these projects. Is there a certain point at which you start questioning you support if it takes too long?
To go back to the original question so I'm not completely in the weeds. When I have the option I buy on Steam, then follow them here for faster updates, discussion, etc. If Steam isn't an option, I use this site to find games I like, then subscribe to them for however much total money I felt it was worth. This number may go up later on in the development cycle, in which case I do it again.

This isn't what Patreon is meant for, and I've seen creators dislike this form of support because they want a steadier income more than they want a larger one, so fluctuations worry them. But also I expect about 50% of western adult games to get abandoned at some point and there are so many games I get some enjoyment out of that supporting them all would be absurd, so I drew the line somewhere. ...And like all lines drawn in the sand, I have re-drawn it at times to support some creators "extra."
 
Jan 19, 2019
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Coming late to the party, I just discovered this game, and I think it's the first time I've wanted to play the game after watching the gallery.

First, holy shit there is a lot of artwork. Some of them seems to be of a lower quality, but the vast majority is really impressive, both in style and construction of the scene.

Second, cheating, corruption, ntr, monsters, bestiality, all that stuff is my kink. If I were asked to imagine the perfect porn game for me, I would have never thought of anything this good. And as far as I played it, maybe 30 minutes, the story and the settings elevates the art.

Third, as I said I haven't played a lot yet, so I can't really judge how the gameplay holds in the long run, but from what I've seen it seems pretty balanced with the story. And done well enough compared to the majority of porn games. I hate it when they throw random gameplay in, and it's the bare minimum. "Do this jigsaw puzzle", "go fetch item A in this random location 1, and then use it in the random location 2 to unlock random item B" etc. I get why people do that, it's a porn game, but personally I'm more interested in the porn part than the game part. To bust a nut I don't want to play rock-paper-scissors, I want good art and preferably a good story with it.
But I guess I'll see what happens as I progress.

And it made me think how far we've come in the porn/adult game "genre" in just a few years. Top games on Patreon now have the financial means of a small indie studio, we have story and art of the quality of Seeds of Chaos or Our Red String, when a few years back on the internet Meet'N'Fuck stuff was probably the best you could easily find for free.

Anyway, top tier game, love it.
 

Oriandu

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Sep 1, 2017
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Yep happens pretty much every 1-2 months. :ROFLMAO:
It's a vicious cycle that happens in virtually every thread on virtually every game on the site. "Dev scam u" "We're not paying." "ululz u wayt su long." "We're not paying." "me am smrt than u u wayt four dis." "Again, none of us are paying, this is a piracy site." "olol compair 2 $200,000,000 aaa gam lol u dum" and so on and so forth until the heat death of the universe. Say what you will about SoC's slow progress at the very least it updates pretty consistently, which is more than you can say about 90% of the games on this site. It's clearly keeping its patreon supporters happy, it's clearly keeping we who sail the seven seas happy, and the devs are only cranky jerks about we pirates in this thread on a semi-regular basis. SoC has done enough for me to consider actually purchasing it on Steam when it releases and that's saying something.
 

czertik

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Apr 25, 2018
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latest version, started new game, got this error when trying to visit rowan inventory

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While loading <'Image' u'gui/shop/caravan/enhancements/toolbox poison.png'>:
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 531, in execute_call_screen
    store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'gui/shop/caravan/enhancements/toolbox poison.png'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/main_loop.rpyc", line 73, in script call
    {\8!�_��
  File "game/locations/rowans_chambers.rpyc", line 85, in script
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\ast.py", line 1949, in execute
    self.call("execute")
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\ast.py", line 1937, in call
    return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\statements.py", line 277, in call
    return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 531, in execute_call_screen
    store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\exports.py", line 2905, in call_screen
    rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse="screen", type="screen", roll_forward=roll_forward)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\ui.py", line 297, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\core.py", line 2702, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, **kwargs)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\core.py", line 3194, in interact_core
    self.draw_screen(root_widget, fullscreen_video, (not fullscreen_video) or video_frame_drawn)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\core.py", line 2094, in draw_screen
    renpy.config.screen_height,
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 490, in renpy.display.render.render_screen (gen\renpy.display.render.c:6805)
    rv = render(root, width, height, st, st)
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
    rv = d.render(widtho, heighto, st, at)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
    cpdef render(d, object widtho, object heighto, double st, double at):
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
    rv = d.render(widtho, heighto, st, at)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
    cpdef render(d, object widtho, object heighto, double st, double at):
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
    rv = d.render(widtho, heighto, st, at)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
    cpdef render(d, object widtho, object heighto, double st, double at):
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
    rv = d.render(widtho, heighto, st, at)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\screen.py", line 675, in render
    child = renpy.display.render.render(self.child, w, h, st, at)
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
    cpdef render(d, object widtho, object heighto, double st, double at):
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
    rv = d.render(widtho, heighto, st, at)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
    cpdef render(d, object widtho, object heighto, double st, double at):
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
    rv = d.render(widtho, heighto, st, at)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\viewport.py", line 574, in render
    rend = renpy.display.render.render(self.children[0], child_width, child_height, st, at)
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
    cpdef render(d, object widtho, object heighto, double st, double at):
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
    rv = d.render(widtho, heighto, st, at)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1127, in render
    st, at)
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
    cpdef render(d, object widtho, object heighto, double st, double at):
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
    rv = d.render(widtho, heighto, st, at)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
    cpdef render(d, object widtho, object heighto, double st, double at):
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
    rv = d.render(widtho, heighto, st, at)
  File "accelerator.pyx", line 110, in renpy.display.accelerator.transform_render
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
    rv = d.render(widtho, heighto, st, at)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\im.py", line 583, in render
    return cache.get(self, render=True)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\im.py", line 266, in get
    surf = image.load()
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\display\im.py", line 628, in load
    surf = renpy.display.pgrender.load_image(renpy.loader.load(self.filename), self.filename)
  File "D:\burn-hry\192 Game Keygens\35 Hentai Games\seeds-of-chaos-0.3.03\renpy\loader.py", line 576, in load
    raise IOError("Couldn't find file '%s'." % name)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'gui/shop/caravan/enhancements/toolbox poison.png'.

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.5.606
Seeds of Chaos 0.3.03
Sun Jan 02 03:24:41 2022
 

Lucress

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Dec 10, 2019
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Hello hello. I have asked this question before, but this was a while ago. x) So I wonder how far the game has evolved. Are we able to truly rebel agains the demons and face them yet ? Or is that for later ? :)
Thankyuu. ^^
 

Lolicon Kami

Well-Known Member
Nov 3, 2019
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Hello hello. I have asked this question before, but this was a while ago. x) So I wonder how far the game has evolved. Are we able to truly rebel agains the demons and face them yet ? Or is that for later ? :)
Thankyuu. ^^
Still for later :) Plot hasn't really progressed in the last six months or so, but amazing progress has been made on implementing small events here and there, streamlined UI, great revamp of character arcs, and so forth.
 

monk_56

Active Member
Apr 26, 2021
659
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I think the developers don't like any kind of body hair at all. So i doubt we will see it. :LOL: Oh and by the way i do believe there were mentions of Alexia's pubic hair, but it never showed on the pictures.
I'd guess its not an aesthetic preference- rather just a time saver for the art department. Maybe we will see a character rockin' some at some point.
 

Big Green

Member
Aug 19, 2017
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980
I'd guess its not an aesthetic preference- rather just a time saver for the art department. Maybe we will see a character rockin' some at some point.
Maybe, but i don't think it is that hard to draw some lines for pubic hair, nor that it is time consuming. Plus it is not like every character needs it, but oh well there is always hope.
 

Lucress

Member
Dec 10, 2019
147
60
Still for later :) Plot hasn't really progressed in the last six months or so, but amazing progress has been made on implementing small events here and there, streamlined UI, great revamp of character arcs, and so forth.
I see ! That's great to hear. I'm glad ! :D Of course I can't wait for the game to be finished. XD But I'll still enjoy all the progress made up until now. ;) I'll go play now. :p Thanks agaiiiin ! ^^
 
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