Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.05 Dev] [Vénus Noire]

[Jynx_lucky_j]

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I don't know how you have the patience man. You're practically a saint.

 

[handsonfun]

On whether Rowan could be as skilled a tactician and as brave of a leader as the background says he is, keep in mind that Napoleon was only 24 when he took command of the Siege of Toulon. Men of ambition and ability have a tendency to do amazing things from a very young age. That Rowan went to take on the twins by himself to get his wife back is not surprising if we take into account that such an action was fueled by rage and grief clouding his faculties of reason. Should he have gotten help? Undoubtedly, but as the plot has shown, Rowan is not popular with the powerful so what kind of help could he expect? Are we to believe that Rowan would gather an army of poorly trained peasants simply to take back his wife? Who would believe him? The last war broke the power of evil so completely that the demons have to gather their power in secret lest the good realms march on them again and crush them utterly.

And "White Company" is not a common name for free company's, mercenary bands, landsknecht etc. To us in the anglophone countries it has always been the name for John Hawkwood's famous band of soldiers. Arthur Conan Doyle (of Sherlock Holmes fame) wrote a great book about their exploits. In Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries you refer to the "White Company" that we anglophones know as the "Navarrese Company". In fact the White Company is so famous that when Glen Cook wrote a book about an antihero fantasy mercenary band he named them the Black Company so that readers would know what sort of story they would be getting themselves into. Dark, grim, violent.

 

[Antera]

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I can now buy game with peace mind

As far as i know it doesn't, it's something about how do you feel once you immerse in the story, if you feel this kind of story have more logic with that content included, then yes, even if isn't shown nor mentioned in the entire game. Moreover, it depends on your pov about what you know of NTR as definition, for example, in this game the player manage Rowan and Alexia, both serves as MC (even if managing Alexia doesn't make sense), if Alexia fucks something else (because you can fuck other things than just ppl lol) is NTR for you? if Rowan fucks someone else isn't he NTR Alexia?... Excuse me and i sincerely ask for pardon but some ppl have a mental pastiche around that idea, because the game as far as i know will not prevent Rowan have his "fun" with others but Alexia is obfuscated.

For me personally, Its NTR when female lead cheats on male lead.

 

[rivon]

cucks be like:
Is she still cheating on me?? even when i turn ntr off???

Dude you're being ntrd even when nothing happening because you have this mindset.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

On whether Rowan could be as skilled a tactician and as brave of a leader as the background says he is, keep in mind that Napoleon was only 24 when he took command of the Siege of Toulon. Men of ambition and ability have a tendency to do amazing things from a very young age. That Rowan went to take on the twins by himself to get his wife back is not surprising if we take into account that such an action was fueled by rage and grief clouding his faculties of reason. Should he have gotten help? Undoubtedly, but as the plot has shown, Rowan is not popular with the powerful so what kind of help could he expect? Are we to believe that Rowan would gather an army of poorly trained peasants simply to take back his wife? Who would believe him? The last war broke the power of evil so completely that the demons have to gather their power in secret lest the good realms march on them again and crush them utterly.

Pal, you are making a meta-history here over narrative... We can't make a just comparative between two man in which their circumstances were a hell different... Rowan lives his reality in what we can identify as what we called in our history as "The Ancient Regime" meanwhile Napolion lived near half of his live during "The New Regime" (and participated in the demise of the Ancient Regime). Taking note that, Napolion came from a low nobility family in a decadent monarchy with more access for education than most ppl in Rowan's circumstances, who seems to live a few centuries before the period Napolion lived, the game stated the importance of the food production, something that was more of vital importance in economic terms during Middle Ages, so, we can assume Rowan is living in a period like this, moreover, there are hints about the existence of the Three States full of shit of that period. Respect to Rowan actions, it was precipitated, non calculated, imprudent to his very own reputation, he had some nobles on his side with high esteem for him, but he never could acknowledge them nor consider them.

And "White Company" is not a common name for free company's, mercenary bands, landsknecht etc. To us in the anglophone countries it has always been the name for John Hawkwood's famous band of soldiers. Arthur Conan Doyle (of Sherlock Holmes fame) wrote a great book about their exploits. In Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries you refer to the "White Company" that we anglophones know as the "Navarrese Company". In fact the White Company is so famous that when Glen Cook wrote a book about an antihero fantasy mercenary band he named them the Black Company so that readers would know what sort of story they would be getting themselves into. Dark, grim, violent.

And most probably it is because of that novel that was popularize like that, the company you are referring was originally called Great Company of English and Germans, to later English Company. In Italy, this company was known as White Company of the Falcon and White Company to short, named as most of it's members had symbols and heraldic with that color. Moreover, this company was founded several times and didn't had the same leader each time. And more probably Arthur Connan Doyle take the name from the italian source (as John Hackwood came to be it's leader during the period the company came up to be founded again in Italy), and as you stated, the mercenary armies often are called by many names, one of them are White Companies because this was not only the most famous, but because historically was founded in different places around Europe, other names for them are "Great Companies" because often many of them take that title, other way to refer to them are Free Companies with Free to be understood as "Free" because non of them formed alone by it's own, they always served to some kingdom or noble, in other words, some kind of political power.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Can you completely turn off NTR?

Not only does no NTR happen when you turn off NTR, but no NTR happens when you turn on NTR either...unless you want it to.

Every sex scene is optional. So if a character comes up to your wife and asks her to fuck, you can just have her turn term down. The only thing turning off NTR really does is automatically makes her choose the "no" option. The only real benefit of turning off NTR is that it removes the temptation from the player to select yes in an NTR scene.

or it still happens but off screen ?

While there isn't any off screen NTR, people who ask this question usually don't like this game. I suspect that it is because they have a much higher than average aversion to NTR. But while turning NTR off means that ultimately she will always remain faithful, she will still occasionally be temped. Other characters will still regularly hit on her, she will still occasionally find other people attractive, and she will occasionally get horny around others (usually as a result of being drugged by an aphrodisiac). So you have to ask yourself if you are okay with all that.

Ultimately this is a game about temptation and corruption. So if you can't stand the idea of your character's wife being tempted, even if she resists the temptation in the end, then it is probably better to move on.

 

[adrad555]

Pal, you are making a meta-history here over narrative... We can't make a just comparative between two man in which their circumstances were a hell different... Rowan lives his reality in what we can identify as what we called in our history as "The Ancient Regime" meanwhile Napolion lived near half of his live during "The New Regime" (and participated in the demise of the Ancient Regime). Taking note that, Napolion came from a low nobility family in a decadent monarchy with more access for education than most ppl in Rowan's circumstances, who seems to live a few centuries before the period Napolion lived, the game stated the importance of the food production, something that was more of vital importance in economic terms during Middle Ages, so, we can assume Rowan is living in a period like this, moreover, there are hints about the existence of the Three States full of shit of that period. Respect to Rowan actions, it was precipitated, non calculated, imprudent to his very own reputation, he had some nobles on his side with high esteem for him, but he never could acknowledge them nor consider them.

And most probably it is because of that novel that was popularize like that, the company you are referring was originally called Great Company of English and Germans, to later English Company. In Italy, this company was known as White Company of the Falcon and White Company to short, named as most of it's members had symbols and heraldic with that color. Moreover, this company was founded several times and didn't had the same leader each time. And more probably Arthur Connan Doyle take the name from the italian source (as John Hackwood came to be it's leader during the period the company came up to be founded again in Italy), and as you stated, the mercenary armies often are called by many names, one of them are White Companies because this was not only the most famous, but because historically was founded in different places around Europe, other names for them are "Great Companies" because often many of them take that title, other way to refer to them are Free Companies with Free to be understood as "Free" because non of them formed alone by it's own, they always served to some kingdom or noble, in other words, some kind of political power.

Here there are people arguing about historic names of mercenaries companies, while in the game there is an actual battle scene about soldiers pushing each others with shields in a deadly battle as a means of wining...

IT HURTS!!! PLS GUYS GO MAKE A GAME!!! I NEED SOME GOOD MEDIEVAL RPG!!!

 

[adrad555]

cucks be like:
Is she still cheating on me?? even when i turn ntr off???

Dude you're being ntrd even when nothing happening because you have this mindset.

M8 you need to be more considered with people. There are plenty of games on this side where it explicitly states that ntr is avoidable and then it happens in the background.

Like NTR is one of if not the worst experience that can happen to somebody. You can hardly blame a guy for trying to spare himself from it.

 

[Raven_Light]

Well, first Da Twins wants loyalty but at the same time do damage to the one who is responsible for the demise of their Father and the last War ending in their loses, making harder their lives, so, a way they do is trying to get them separated of each other (Alexia and Rowan break up). X'zaralt is like another passive force in contrast to Da Twins, because she's there not because Da Twins but because Rowan's there.... So, initially her interest is Rowan, she admire and idealize him, seeing him in a sad state isn't an option for her, so helping the couple acting like an ointment to heal a wound, a guide to maintain each other together even if corruption becomes necessary is better than seeing them suffer, of course, there are ulterior motives because she could in theory try to visit Rowan during the time of peace, try to seduce him disguised as a commoner woman, there's story about why X'zaralt finally decided to move to Bloodmeen to see Rowan when she could had a lot of chances to do it before, it seems meanwhile she's trying to help the couple, she moves more close to Rowan in a more romantic way (even unexpected to her, because if she wanted to do it wouldn't be necessary to approuch them as a couple). In relation to why main characters npc's can't take by force over them, Rein and his team (Venus Noire) have been wisely avoid sanctions from Patreon, as they stated:


But, they are on a thin line as the overall story in the background does, even if the whole team comes here to shout us that isn't, there's commenters that signaled that in the story (and some of them very funny as you can see ):

Yeah Patreon a bit stiff minded, but I get why cuz of certain types of folks .

Thats a very interesting plot development with xzaratl and Rowan though. Im glad its not designed where she takes him by force. I like how that its more mutual. Both ends not just the one. Even when Alexia in command moment happens I like how its all consent but still dark.

I think Xzaratl is the only character that has the ability to out do both the twins .

Cuz with Andras I imagine it to be him giving too her 80% of time Rowan only getting head, hand, or maybe bit of ass cheeks, if Jeerza it be more like madeline moments, 50/50 but Xzaratl being the more pure/ but corrupt same time. From what I interpreted best I could while playing. I think I only lost out on 3-4 scenes with Rowan x Alexia. Alexia with Andras most of time than Rowan.

 

[Raven_Light]

I can now buy game with peace mind



For me personally, Its NTR when female lead cheats on male lead.

Cheating is cheating ☠

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

M8 you need to be more considered with people. There are plenty of games on this side where it explicitly states that ntr is avoidable and then it happens in the background.

Like NTR is one of if not the worst experience that can happen to somebody. You can hardly blame a guy for trying to spare himself from it.

See I would agree if the sentiment was applied more generally. People seem to only complain when the girl is cheating on the guy. No one complains about all of Rowan's exploit's, but Alexia is treated like a cheating whore. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that.

Cheating is cheating ☠

No no no, you don't understand. It's fun when I do it.

 

[Raven_Light]

See I would agree if the sentiment was applied more generally. People seem to only complain when the girl is cheating on the guy. No one complains about all of Rowan's exploit's, but Alexia is treated like a cheating whore. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that.

No no no, you don't understand. It's fun when I do it.

Yeah exactly just double standard talk. Makes me wonder that some of the people who thinks its only NTR when female does it, but not when the man does, makes me think they've got red flag baggage irl.

 

[adrad555]

See I would agree if the sentiment was applied more generally. People seem to only complain when the girl is cheating on the guy. No one complains about all of Rowan's exploit's, but Alexia is treated like a cheating whore. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that.

No no no, you don't understand. It's fun when I do it.

Cant believe iv got to say this on a porn game. I AM AGAINST CHEATING, IF A MAN OR WOMAN ARE NOT CONTENT WITH ONLY ONE PARTNER THEN THEY SHOULD DISCUS THAT BEFORE THEY START A RELATIONSHIP! We don't get a chance to do that in this game or the 1st thing everybody would do (who has such inclinations) was to tell the wife that and decide on there relationship from there.

But one thing I have to say to you two. There is a biological difference between men and woman. Men are polygamous, women are monogamous.

If a man loves a woman he can fuck around however much he wants, when trouble comes he will lay down his life for the woman (like that's why men play sex games, instead of just watching porn. So that they can grow emotional connections with the characters). Am not saying that men should fuck around, as it is detrimental to there mental and physical health. When a man loves something he will consider the person/ thing as more important than there lives. Like men really don't care about there lives.

When a woman fucks around, its over. Nothing the man ever does will make him look like a human in the woman's eyes, he will always be lesser than her or any other man that shows her any point of affection (for as long as he still loves her/ is there for her). She will abandon him the moment trouble comes around or a better choice shows itself. And if he ever shows any signs of recovery she will try to kick him back to the ground. As she knows that the moment he has a better life than her (and she cant get him) she will be unable to live with the fact of the cheating.

Like if you disagree with this open your eyes and watch the world. Go to Reddit and other such sites to read the life stories of people. Or simply go to a divorce court to see this shit happening.

 

[Rein]

I mean, this would make for a hilarious response to Alexia complaining about Rowan fucking Helayna.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Cant believe iv got to say this on a porn game. I AM AGAINST CHEATING, IF A MAN OR WOMAN ARE NOT CONTENT WITH ONLY ONE PARTNER THEN THEY SHOULD DISCUS THAT BEFORE THEY START A RELATIONSHIP! We don't get a chance to do that in this game or the 1st thing everybody would do (who has such inclinations) was to tell the wife that and decide on there relationship from there.

I never said you supported cheating. I was just saying I find it funny that the people who rail against cheating in these games never seem to consider the fact that that their character is also cheating at least as much if not more.

But one thing I have to say to you two. There is a biological difference between men and woman. Men are polygamous, women are monogamous.

If a man loves a woman he can fuck around however much he wants, when trouble comes he will lay down his life for the woman (like that's why men play sex games, instead of just watching porn. So that they can grow emotional connections with the characters). Am not saying that men should fuck around, as it is detrimental to there mental and physical health. When a man loves something he will consider the person/ thing as more important than there lives. Like men really don't care about there lives.

When a woman fucks around, its over. Nothing the man ever does will make him look like a human in the woman's eyes, he will always be lesser than her or any other man that shows her any point of affection (for as long as he still loves her/ is there for her). She will abandon him the moment trouble comes around or a better choice shows itself. And if he ever shows any signs of recovery she will try to kick him back to the ground. As she knows that the moment he has a better life than her (and she cant get him) she will be unable to live with the fact of the cheating.

Like if you disagree with this open your eyes and watch the world. Go to Reddit and other such sites to read the life stories of people. Or simply go to a divorce court to see this shit happening.

lol okay buddy, good luck with all that. I don't know whether to give you a or a

 

[adrad555]

I never said you supported cheating. I was just saying I find it funny that the people who rail against cheating in these games never seem to consider the fact that that their character is also cheating at least as much if not more.


lol okay buddy, good luck with all that. I don't know whether to give you a or a

Both is appropriate!

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

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I mean, this would make for a hilarious response to Alexia complaining about Rowan fucking Helayna.

Since you mentioned this, Alexia getting jealous of Helayna even though Rowan allowed her to be with Greyhide is a little bit hypocritical, ain't it? Why is not that interaction flagged, so they may have a different reaction for each circumstances, if I may ask? It's not a criticism, just I always wondered about it.

 

[Raven_Light]

Cant believe iv got to say this on a porn game. I AM AGAINST CHEATING, IF A MAN OR WOMAN ARE NOT CONTENT WITH ONLY ONE PARTNER THEN THEY SHOULD DISCUS THAT BEFORE THEY START A RELATIONSHIP! We don't get a chance to do that in this game or the 1st thing everybody would do (who has such inclinations) was to tell the wife that and decide on there relationship from there.

But one thing I have to say to you two. There is a biological difference between men and woman. Men are polygamous, women are monogamous.

If a man loves a woman he can fuck around however much he wants, when trouble comes he will lay down his life for the woman (like that's why men play sex games, instead of just watching porn. So that they can grow emotional connections with the characters). Am not saying that men should fuck around, as it is detrimental to there mental and physical health. When a man loves something he will consider the person/ thing as more important than there lives. Like men really don't care about there lives.

When a woman fucks around, its over. Nothing the man ever does will make him look like a human in the woman's eyes, he will always be lesser than her or any other man that shows her any point of affection (for as long as he still loves her/ is there for her). She will abandon him the moment trouble comes around or a better choice shows itself. And if he ever shows any signs of recovery she will try to kick him back to the ground. As she knows that the moment he has a better life than her (and she cant get him) she will be unable to live with the fact of the cheating.

Like if you disagree with this open your eyes and watch the world. Go to Reddit and other such sites to read the life stories of people. Or simply go to a divorce court to see this shit happening.

lmao. That little bit of detail in 1st paragraph isnt needed. "Click avoid NTR." You welcome.

I agree men are more poly material than women but thats only cuz we're the ones giving the seed while women are the one fertalizing it. No real alpha male gonna want to share his woman or women(if lucky) with another dude. But any case poly male with mono women' still NTR even if hes doing it to secure his bloodline. Im not going into full detail bout it. Its redundant.

Also you didnt need to make it that deep over a porn game. Telling ppl to go to reddit or sites like to read life stories.

 

[Wiliam 1234567]

I remember a discussion I saw before about whether magical Alexia would go into parts 2 and 3, as that would open up so many different paths (Alexia with magic, Alexia without magic, magic training level, who teaches Alexia magic) . does anyone know if anything has been confirmed about this or are they still deciding?

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

I remember a discussion I saw before about whether magical Alexia would go into parts 2 and 3, as that would open up so many different paths (Alexia with magic, Alexia without magic, magic training level, who teaches Alexia magic) . does anyone know if anything has been confirmed about this or are they still deciding?

It is more an speculation and fan base wank fantasy than reality, Rein don't talk much about that, instead he remarks how hard is to write Alexia as a character giving the variables she have because that change her dialogs and overall behavior, so, if it's hard now for them and giving how they have been delay the overall work just polishing the First Act, i don't have much hope (being realist) that it finally comes true, but it would be cool to manage a character that would become more useful in the long term and in different areas than just a tentative NTR doll...

But that would be very interesting giving the other factors, as how corrupted she had become (will she become in the Morgoth of that reality?), giving how good or bad terms her relationship with Rowan she will manage by us as an ally or enemy with her own goal now that she can access to Power (something that she never had before in her life that would make her desire to bend to no one). Magical Alexia is a desire for the fan base since day one the team innocently draw and release in the build her working in the library and the discovery by Chliona of her magical potential, that would upraise her importance and esteem between the fan base (specially for those who just see her as a fuck doll), because the interactions and influence are near meaningless now, but Magical Alexia would change everything...

And there's the other chance... About how loyal lil - non corrupted - loyal Alexia... Will she become the embodiment of some kind of Gandalf The White? The time will tell, but i give no hope for that because it will center a hell of attention into developing just one character that would give differente outcomes in several scenes (but in theory in how Venus Noire Team design the ending or endings for the story), giving more work that will delay the overall development of the rest of the characters, scenes and quest.