Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.06] [Vénus Noire]
The whole story of the game is full on holes in order for said game to happen, lore wise Rowan is one of the great heroes, very capable, has friends in high-ish places and is recognized everywhere he goes and in the same time somehow he decides the best course of action is ignore all logic and go to the twins, alone ,without warning anyone or make any good plans on what to do there.
Rowan is everything he is told to be, but the game sometimes, mostly in the beginning , just bends over backwards to justify him not killing the twins in the first 15 minutes of the game. He is a hero and makes long patrols and knows what to look for in danger, but somehow he did not notice a big red demon-brat with the subtlety of a rolling bolder that screams. He is smart, well connected, but decides to do the most idiotic of plans of rescue so he can be captured and recruited.
If you play more than the beginning he shows the legendary hero characteristics he should have in the beginning, has longs has they are not used to rebel to much cause we "cant" have him make meaningful progress on that on act one
Realistically speaking if you took Alexia out of the situation and kept Rowan at peak competency both of the twins would either already be serving him, possibly without them even being aware of it, or they'd be dead and he and Alexia would be back home living out their days in peace. Of course that would remove the pretense of this being a game, but Rowan wins in virtually every scenario where he has freedom to act as he pleases and is not burdened by the lives of his wife and innocent people caught in the crossfire. Rowan is damned by the situation he's found himself trapped in and by the actions of the people around him, he himself is so talented that it's sometimes hard to take him seriously. Keep in mind that Rowan is basically the top general of the the entire armada of the twins, the chancellor of their kingdom, their lead negotiator, their best field agent, and their most skilled warrior. He's got the Deadman's Hand and the accompanying gun to the back of his head. I can't claim to know what the writers are thinking but at some point he has to start turning things in his favor and depending on the routes allowed to the player there's got to be room for an ending where he becomes the evil overlord.
It is because the suppose brilliant acting during the war pale in comparison during Act I actions since the beginning, it makes me think that in all those suppose acknowledge achievements during War was the work of other men that were in charge and Rowan just has luck to be there, survive and had a rank enough to be recognize as the "mastermind" tactician...
Dude, that's exactly the whole point, dammit, do you really think that any of the Independence Revolution in all the America Continent would just have success without people that in some form had formal military studies and experience?, Rowan as a commoner would just had only knowledge of how a Bow can be use, that's was normally the common military knowledge of any peasant in Europe at least because more than that was exclusive job of the Nobility. How the hell Rowan would just did all the stuff attribute to him if he born as a mere peasant? He was just a foot soldier for the nobles, why the nobility would just grab a bunch of peasants and try to instruct them in combat with more weapons than a bow and tactics?.
If Rowan was just well trained and knowledgeable, he wouldn't protect his home village as a job for the community in he were living? Who would deny to pay him in the village for protection against any ex-soldiers from the demon army remains or from bandits knowing of his reputation as a hero? He could just live doing that and not compromise his physical status, but another thing is his intelligence, even if he couldn't workout properly doesn't justify the way he acts by trying to "rescue" his wife.
I always re-play this game since the beginning until the end from time to time, but as stated before, the details in the narrative and the actions doesn't get along, if we were told that Rowan came from a noble house in disgrace now in poverty, it would explain better his military knowledge and the reject of the nobles in trying to give him a hand without forgetting his marriage with a commoner woman, plus, if it were told too that The Twins cursed some of the traded food in the Rowan's Home Village to make the people weak at magic, they would just take the village easy, overcome Rowan independently of his physical status for much workout he had, if it were told that after all that, he was put in the prison of the Twins Castle to be torture to make him more weak and threat him to make harm to his wife, it would explain why he sided with The Twins very easy. What i highlighted, how much take to read? 30 seconds? It wouldn't make much sense with a brief text like that what came after in the story of the game later?.
I'm not a narrative genius, but what the narrative tell and what is develop in story is enough to suspect that something isn't just too well about his epic heroism and abilities.
Technically: Augmented humanoid undead shapeshifter that feeds on human flash to sustain itself.
- Aug 21, 2017
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If you really think this is the case Rowan wouldn't last a single day at Bloodmeen. The twins would've killed him long ago after seeing how incompetent he is.
It can happen if you don't achieve some requirements, nonetheless many of the work inside Bloodmeen doesn't entirely depend on Rowan, many of the people who work there were never choose by Rowan itself to be in charge of an area in the Castle, in a practical sense or there were this people working before his arrive there or they were coming by The Twins recommendation, approval or loyalty to them.
What, exactly, are you talking about? That Rowan didn't manage to single-handedly rescue his wife from demons after he was refused military aid? Because that's hardly a sign of incompetence. Or is it about something else?
How do you think humans came up with all sorts of military knowledge in the first place? Hint: it wasn't "because they were born nobles".
He doesn't not only manage to get aid but he went there without preparation about what could see or confront in Bloodmeen, a Wise General who Mastered The Art Of War manage to get first as much information about his enemies before an attack, and according to the information get preparations.
Any form of existing knowledge have a debt from the experience and studies of many other men that came to be before. All those information at some point was discussed and proved (if possible), making successfully the refinement of the knowledge. How the hell a commoner like Rowan would during a War surpass in knowledge all the nobility? when taking clear that peasants never get formal education even to read, much less about the correctly use about weapons like swords, mace, shields... except of course for Bows because normally some commoners didn't get enough meat and needed to search for preys in the forest, in those times the knowledge of the Art of War was teach and passed for the nobility as whole, because it was their job this kind of specialization, so again, how Rowan could get ever have a chance to rival or even surpass any achievement during War in contrast to all the nobility? it doesn't make any sense at all, even if we consider that the best student of The Art of War could make mistakes, wouldn't Rowan committed a bunch lot much more to the point to be killed during the War because he doesn't had any experience nor studies before that?.
Lord Arioch said on Patreon that there is a possibility of a new scene of that route in the September update.
This make me think, beside all the corruption Alexia can have only in this first part of the game, what it will be left for the next two Arcs?, i mean, she will become in something like Morgoth or what?.
- Feb 25, 2019
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Mommy Jezera is forgiving.
By heroes doesn't mean someone who just swings hua sword left and right here Rowan is still a strong fighter for a human and he is more of a strategist
It becomes strong meanwhile he's taking condition working for the Twins, regarding being a strategist... That's a loophole in the game, because it's told that he came from the commoners, it's like any of us could just do a better Open Heart Surgery without even touching a book of medicine than the Doctor that studied 10 years, Summa Cum Laude and with near 20 years more of experience after graduation. Cool huh!.
I really loved this game, in a way it inspired me to create my own game. I haven't played it for a long time... How many years will I have to wait until it's finished?