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Is it normal to have every Alexia x Andras scene go one after another in the same week? I don't remember being like this, almost an hour in consecutive events at this moment, it's kinda boring
Yes, it's how the Alexia x Andras path is at the moment. Once Alexia submits to Andras, the NTR path will start and you will get consecutive events one right after another. I also don't like it and I hope it will be changed once the whole route for Act I is finished.
 

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Ok so I've pretty much accepted that corruption is an invisible stat. Is there a way to lower corruption through events? Just to know to avoid them. Because I've gotten the random traveling monk in the past and just got the forests blessing and I have no idea if that just helps Rowan's guilt or lowers corruption as well.
 

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Every noble was a knight, but not every knight was a noble.
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I could have brought up a number of men-at-arms or some of the members of the White Company that started in a similar position to Rowan were accoladed and enobled but they aren't well known.
As the nobles that were Knights were "True Knights" Milites Nobiles and the commoners who were mostly mercenaries that known how to battle mounting a horse were "Calvarymen" Milites Gregarii (making some of them called later as "man-at-arms"), this weren't so common between mercenaries, specially because the horse usually to see in the battlefield wasn't precisely raised by every farmer around all Kingdoms, this kind of horses, now common to us when we see police officers mounted or horse races were specially raised and trained for War, something that wasn't cheap... Think in this mercenaries is like to think in any card game style with characters type SSR and you bought a pack of cards expecting to have at least one, this was more or less when the nobles hired mercenaries, because if he needed to had them as Calvarymen then they had must be trained and equipped in the basics, something that needed time and again, expensive; but even all that consideration, during the Crusades some companies like that existed at serve of Military Orders. The primary reason i discard why Rowan couldn't be a mercenary before the War it's because of his youth during Act I in Seeds of Chaos, i imagine a Rowan who came from a farm at a very young age, recruited as soldier knowing how a bow work properly from his passed Father, wanting revenge for the lost of his family and home by the Demon Armies, the Rowan showed to us looks too young to be a man with so exceptional skills and mastery of the war.

Similar no... Exact please, it must came from the commoners and must be situated during Feudalism, because the examples you gave doesn't help me to get out of my "misconception", it isn't a complete misconception the impossibility to change from a Social State (more considering if the Kingdom lacked from this), even the conditions in a Kingdom that had that tradition was hard to achieve and needed to considerations and patronage of other nobleman, consider that not all Kingdoms in Europe had the Ennoblement as tradition (as you mentioned The White Company now called by historians Navarrese Company formed by mercenaries in the late 14th century in the Kingdom of Navarre, which in fact this Kingdom or at least in Spain had it) and only during the Feudalism decadence in some Kingdoms (like France) it was possible for rich merchants families to buy Patents of Nobility. Nonetheless, the Mastery in the War told in game of Rowan doesn't sound properly from a person who came from the commoners, even the White Company i mentioned had as a leader Louis of Navarre, who was precisely a nobleman. So even if we talk of people like Juan de Urtubia who was a mercenary that commands a group of men under Peter IV of Aragon, a man considered man-at-arms, a properly trained as Calvaryman, being chosen to lead men into an expedition to recover the Kingdom of Albany and later lead an army to fought and conquered Thebes and Boeotia, he was taken as Royal Squire of The King and was more closely to learn from the nobles the mastery in the art of war before going to any campaign (and more importantly a mercenary before the recruitment to form The Navarrese Company in the first place), something like that unfortunately isn't mentioned in Rowan's Backstory because it seems that any form of Ennoblement isnt existed as Rowan himself told during the quest in which we must choose for The Twin Feudalism bullshit or Might Makes Right, at least a commoner like Juan had the chance, but Rowan?.

PS: One thing i almost forgot...
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I could have brought up a number of men-at-arms or some of the members of the White Company that started in a similar position to Rowan were accoladed and enobled but they aren't well known.
Being Accoladed isn't the same as being Ennobled. An Accoladed while is considered as the same as "Praised" or "Award" or "Honorable" as a Knight, they still aren't nobles. To be a noble need more to be Accoladed by recognition of your work and services to the Kingdom, need to be given a Title and the acceptance of the King and The Court, for his merits, his manners corresponds to those in the nobility and the support of at least one nobleman.
 
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I am aware of the NTR pacing problem and have a fix prepared, it will be part of a more comprehensive adjustments of how Alexia centric events work, to allow them to trigger independently from the ruler event where possible.
 

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No, this is a common misconception. Until the high middle ages (and in many countries even deep into the early modern period) any knight could make any other man a knight. Most of the privileges and rights that a knight had were only as enforceable as his sword was sharp. Another common misconception you have is that you are conflating knighthood with nobility. Every noble was a knight, but not every knight was a noble. What made a man a noble varied from kingdom to kingdom, country to country. In some it was relation to the king, in others it was the lands one owned and in some lands nobility could be bought with gold or piety (taking the clothe and becoming a priest). What made a man a knight mostly meant that he rode a horse, wore armor and carried a sword and lance proficiently. And the other knights had to recognize him as such. This was very important and it meant that if a man knighted himself he would have to defeat his naysayers in combat. A large part of why the knights did not dilute themselves to accolade just about anybody who they liked was that you were expected to fight, you were a warrior and it didn't matter how badly you were going to lose, your name was only as good as you gave in battle.

I brought up Achilles primarly for the reason that he is heroic and well known. Although he himself was a king, he was not the king leading the Acheans against the Trojans though all the Acheans looked to him for leadership. I brought up William Marshall because he started with nothing but a sword and with that sword he won himself a castle almost single-handedly. I could have brought up a number of men-at-arms or some of the members of the White Company that started in a similar position to Rowan were accoladed and enobled but they aren't well known.
If the life of William Marshall Earl of Pembroke was made into a fantasy video game people would reject it for being too unrealistic. :ROFLMAO: Not for the dragons and orcs and shit but because even his piss was full of excellence. If even half the stories about him are true and the other half complete bullshit he still would still probably be unbelievable.
 

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I have not been following the realism debate, however different memebers of the team have different views on its role in the game. It ranges from "We want a dark but grounded fantasy story" to "It's a porn game, stop thinking about it".

I always advocate for making stuff plausible enough. Not everything needs to make perfect sense 100% of the time - people can act out of character, people can randomly meet when the plot needs them to, that kind of stuff. As long as it's not egragious, it's fine.
 

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then why are you on a piracy site and why are you whining about it :WaitWhat:



nobody comes here for the scintillating discourse dolla store xenophanes :KEK:. you're here for the same reason everyone else is : free shit.
1) This first part feels like bait. I aint giving you bottom feeders proof that I've got a Patreon. No chum for you. Won't have me releasing the new version or the new art to 'prove it' any time soon. Maybe I'll DM you a specific list of itemized spoilers just to spite you when the new version releases though :BootyTime:

Different people can have different opinions on piracy- amazing right? Not everyone thinks exactly the way you do. :KEK:

You're free believe w/e you like.

2) I almost feel like you disproved your own point in the second part by having some really great use of the English language.

"scintillating discourse dolla store xenophanes"

What a fun sentence. I love scintillating discourse dolla store xenophanes like yourself :)

Moreover, in the past week there have been some interesting points about realism with a focus on the consideration of Rowan's worthiness as a general as portrayed by the game. One of the Devs even revealed their views on the role of realism in the game. I'd say that makes this forum pretty interesting.

The bit about decoupling Alexia's plots from the Ruler events is pretty interesting too from a game design standpoint.

There are 734 pages of stuff on SoC here. A lot of it is bullshit. But there is really interesting stuff too.
 
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I am aware of the NTR pacing problem and have a fix prepared, it will be part of a more comprehensive adjustments of how Alexia centric events work, to allow them to trigger independently from the ruler event where possible.
Are there any new events for Andras x Alexia route in this patch?
 

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nobody comes here for the scintillating discourse dolla store xenophanes :KEK:. you're here for the same reason everyone else is : free shit.
Well, you can be on this site for free shit and still want to talk about the games you like. It's also perfectly plausible to have paid for some of the free shit available here -- personally while yes, i do take advantage of the free shit, i've bought Steam version of SoC simply because i think what they made, and keep making, well deserves some cash incentive to keep going.
 

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Are other writers besides LA now working on Andras x Alexia? Since LA is so busy on other things there have been lots of delays on those events
LA is the main writer on Andras NTR, me and Hooky occassionaly help out.
 

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Are other writers besides LA now working on Andras x Alexia? Since LA is so busy on other things there have been lots of delays on those events
Are you kidding? Other than Rowan x Alexia, there’s more content for Andras x Alexia than any other pairing. More Jezera x Alexia (enough to match her brother’s content) and X’zaratl x Alexia x Rowan (just because I’m greedy) would be nice.
 

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Are you kidding? Other than Rowan x Alexia, there’s more content for Andras x Alexia than any other pairing. More Jezera x Alexia (enough to match her brother’s content) and X’zaratl x Alexia x Rowan (just because I’m greedy) would be nice.
Or Rowan x Alexia, there isn't much content for both. Or Rowan x Jezera (much less content iirc). Or X'zatralt x Rowan in Rowan dominant role. Or some plot-schemes while fucking with Rowan's protege under the nose of X'zaralt. Or an orgy with Clamin and her family to later invite Rowan's Friend (Greyhide) for extra fun with Alexia (if she had high corruption) and maybe with Helayna too (but perhaps i'm being just too ambitious :unsure: ).
 
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