Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.06] [Vénus Noire]

[andybc]

Considering Andras x Alexia wins most polls, I’d say it’s a major draw of this game. No one said everyone is here for that, so I don’t see the point of getting defensive over that. It’s all porn anyways.

 

[Deleted member 5269071]

I want more Ygriss content. Wholesome Dragon Ogress.

 

[monk_56]

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I want more Ygriss content. Wholesome Dragon Ogress.

Oh nice. The tier maker is back. Pretty decent ratings but why the Patrica/Delane hate???

I suspect you'll get more Ygriss this release. Wildquill wrote some that was in the previous release. There will definitely be goblins though- you'll like that.

 

[Deleted member 5269071]

Oh nice. The tier maker is back. Pretty decent ratings but why the Patrica/Delane hate???

I'm biased toward nobility due to how they treated Rowan. I especially despise Duke Werden. That's why I'd choose Tarish > Delane and Jacques > Patricia.

Moreover, Tarish and Jacques stand out because they can think for themselves. I wouldn't want an army with "Yes-Man/Women". I want people, who take a chance when they see one. Plus, I don't have to ally with Werden if I side with Jacques.

P.s.: I'm still hoping for some sexy time with Liliana. Investments and returns.

 

[Dalurker]

Hello guys, I have a question: did they rework the first 60 weeks or so, to make it more obvious for noobs (like me) which are the winning conditions for the battle, before entering endless mode? I don't see any of that in the changelogs so far.

 

[Samantha_Gaming]

Perfect Ending: "Rowan cuts off Andras' cock, feeds it to his sister and cucks Alexia with a Harem full of hot Goblin girls."

There'll be difficult choices to make in the upcoming update.

Do I wanna bang a Goblin Kemonomimi or a Goblin Milf?

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Sadly, Tue-Row has a cock and thus can't be an ally of mine.

Hooooo~~ that goblin redhead seems fire.. I'm

In what universe is Alexia not a main character? The lowest possible position Alexia could be called is the deuteragonist. Alexia is more important than every other character not named Rowan and has the heaviest amount of content after him. You remove her from the game and a huge, gaping hole would open up that cannot be filled.

*cough*

Anywho, arguing a topic like this is a fool's errand, no one wins.

Sooooo, how about the tits on that new goblin queen looking character?

totally agree with everything that you've said.. Also, that monk_56 resorted to insults right off the bat.. It completely diluted whatever arguments or facts he may have been trying to present right from the start..

 

[Samantha_Gaming]

It'll def be a while. I'm curious how long Alexia would be a bargaining chip for a truly corrupt Rowan if we go down that path. It'll be interesting if we get one where he turns on the twins not caring about her so takes risks preparing for the backstab or another where he serves willingly but just stops caring about her so there's no need for her. Doubt it will happen and if it does be a long way off. Same for a cucked Rowan route, does he at some point get to say know what fuck her and form a stronger bond with Helayna, Liurial or whoever. But if that becomes possible that'd likely be an endgame thing.

I have a feeling the Rowan by the end of this will be a monster.




I mean dancingqueen could've tried not been a dismissive child to a simple question while you know been wrong, I like Y and that's why people play the game not boring X you like. Then cry because one post called her dumb and the other was sarcastic. A public forum is not their echo chamber or safe space.



Though I'd love Rowan to impregnate every woman in sight tbh I think a lot more leg work would need to be done before an actual baby happens outside Alexia and Rowan, The way the story is done atm babies are a major sore point for Alexia and Rowan would be furious if Andras got her pregnant. An Andras baby or a Cla-Min baby should realistically be a relationship breaker. Considering how important babies are to Alexia and how important Alexia is to keeping Rowan compliant I don't think the story is at a place where a baby outside them two can happen for a while. At least not where the other knows.



Hopefully just ALL the goblin content. They've had a war, they've got a population to rebuild blanks or not he can give it a good try it's the "heroic" thing to do. The content in blackholt is really good it feels like a place with a lot of characters. The goblins also feel like they can go two ways with Rowan, their admiration of him deepening or disappointment at the reality I hope that gets leaned into a couple of times. The goblins definitely stand out more than the chars in the orciad the only real standout was Delane imo and she's a bit of a stupid choice for Rowan to make considering the risks, which sucks because Delane is great. Not been much with Tarish either since. If it's not goblins I wouldn't mind some Jezera, Liurial or Helayna content either, the stuff with them 3 tends to be really good.




I think it serves a point in showing ultimately the twins can't be trusted and they do what they want it also shows ultimately they don't mind losing Rowan. I think it's meant to be frustrating. Not that knowing that makes it feel any better of course!

Yeah.. i can agree on that.. But as you've said, as long as the other party does not know.. Andras did hint when rowan left, that he wants to make a baby with alexia when they were at the nursery room.. Chaos magic can do many things it seems, it could give a human/demon hybrid look like a human baby.. given the right materials, it could increase fertility and who knows, it might even let you choose the gender of the baby.. Either way, much remains to be seen.. Any news about when the next update would be?

 

[feelsbadman.inc]

totally agree with everything that you've said..

Nobody was arguing that any of Alexia's content should be removed from the game so I'm not even sure where that person got that idea from. Also not sure how many time's I have to post this but the creator of the game himself stated that Alexia is not an MC and is more akin to a "very important side character".

 

[feelsbadman.inc]

Yeah.. i can agree on that.. But as you've said, as long as the other party does not know.. Andras did hint when rowan left, that he wants to make a baby with alexia when they were at the nursery room.. Chaos magic can do many things it seems, given the right materials, it could increase fertility and who knows, it might even let you choose the gender of the baby? Either way, much remains to be seen.. Any news about when the next update would be?

Next Update for patreon should be the last Sunday of this month, Steam updates in December.

And I'm sorry to say for you pregnancy fiends but it's not as simple as the devs just adding pregnancy in the game. I can really only see pregnancy being added in Act 3 towards the end of the game, because it would just be way too difficult and not worth the effort and time to try and do it now or even in the second act. It would just affect the plot way too drastically and would result in way too many variations. Seeing as I'm someone who enjoys the overall story and would like to see the game come out in my lifetime (which I'm sure the devs agree) there won't be any pregnancy for a VERY VERY long time if at all.

 

[Samantha_Gaming]

Nobody was arguing that any of Alexia's content should be removed from the game so I'm not even sure where that person got that idea from. Also not sure how many time's I have to post this but the creator of the game himself stated that Alexia is not an MC and is more akin to a "very important side character".

Seriously.. Was Alexia's status an issue? It never was.. All Oriandu stated were facts.. People play this game for each of their own personal reasons.. Now i don't see why they should be called out for giving off their own opinions and reasons.. Just play the game and let others discuss their own thoughts..

 

[Samantha_Gaming]

Next Update for patreon should be the last Sunday of this month, Steam updates in December.

And I'm sorry to say for you pregnancy fiends but it's not as simple as the devs just adding pregnancy in the game. I can really only see pregnancy being added in Act 3 towards the end of the game, because it would just be way too difficult and not worth the effort and time to try and do it now or even in the second act. It would just affect the plot way too drastically and would result in way too many variations. Seeing as I'm someone who enjoys the overall story and would like to see the game come out in my lifetime (which I'm sure the devs agree) there won't be any pregnancy for a VERY VERY long time if at all.

Haha.. Never say never.. But i do agree that it could take a while.. Well, the cla-min content did insinuate a lot of impreg vibes in the last few new scenes.. I myself would hate for it to be over so soon.. And as a gamer, i can't help but feel that the updates can't arrive any faster.. Though i can also understand the dev is doing their utmost to roll out the updates as soon as they can.. It only shows that this game has gained a lot of attention from many gamers all around the globe..

 

[Deleted member 5269071]

Andras did hint when rowan left, that he wants to make a baby with alexia when they were at the nursery room.. Chaos magic can do many things it seems, it could give a human/demon hybrid look like a human baby..

Regarding the baby debate: We know that Humans and Goblins can interbreed. There's an interaction with a goblin merchant who married a female ex-knight and had multiple children with her. We've already seen a female (half-human)-half-minotaur. Moreover, X'zaratl (?) told us that it's extremely rare for a Demon to produce offspring. From that perspective, it's a miracle that the Twins do exist. It appears that it's somehow harder for a Demon to produce children. Now, does this also apply to Half-Demons? Of course, Chaos Magic could be used as a plot device to retcon that tid bit.

 

[mehGusta]

Nobody was arguing that any of Alexia's content should be removed from the game so I'm not even sure where that person got that idea from. Also not sure how many time's I have to post this but the creator of the game himself stated that Alexia is not an MC and is more akin to a "very important side character".

well to be fair, what the devs say matters absolutely nothing if they don't act in the way of those words.
how much Alexia has agency and how much game features revolve around her, she is definitely a mc.
but sure, it is quite obvious that if we say this is a dual mc game, Rowan is the first mc and Alexia the second mc. so we could quite as well say Rowan is THE mc.

 

[Deleted member 5269071]

I have a feeling the Rowan by the end of this will be a monster.

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[HentaiGamerN00b]

It also fits with the overall theme of SoC; that power ultimately corrupts people.

Well... The center idea is about corruption or at least demonstrate that the willing of being good or evil is in everybody independently of their nature... But I think there's is another obfuscated theme, it's around the idea of hypocrisy... Since the beginning Rowan have some kind of remorse about being treated low independently of whatever he could help, achieved as general and member of the six heroes, achieved as commander and administrator or the twins, as husband...

But not only Rowan, near every character is around this idea at some extend:

Andras push his soldiers as Rowan as well but for people like Alexia when he wanted sex he expected for them to submit willingly to him, WTF?!, he could treat them as well as he does with Rowan and the soldiers but no, for them he's soft. In other annoyingly matters, he can comply to the orc villages needs if they swear loyalty...

Jezera's have the problem to like to be as civilized as those who are in charged, planning, plotting, dealing and diplomacy, but she offers between little and nothing while she doesn't reserve at all to make an example of force. I remember that she planned to threat using kids but she make assure to Rowan that even if the answer is no those kids will not be harmed, WTF?!...

Alexia... I hate this character... if you play to the loyal route, she by any reason isn't willing to sacrifice herself for Rowan meanwhile her husband (in the most loyal and boring route ever without NTR nor voyeurism nor cheating at all) little by little lose a piece of himself, of whatever he could ever think of himself and while he question his own moral... By playing corruption's path it doesn't matter how many cocks and cum she had passed to flavor, she will demand loyalty to her husband.

Helayna is a special case, when she recovers, whatever thoughts she had concerning to help the world against the threat Bloodmeen represent, just fall in nothing if Rowan declare his love for her, for Helayna being in hell but with Rowan as her lover is in a literal sense being in a paradise, a dream come true...

X'zaralt is another special case... Being interest in love and how others experiment it meanwhile being a watcher, now she desire to be participant or at least experiment the same love as much as possible with the test subjects she's studying. Being so blind that she now have a Rowan's spy under her nose...

Shaya is a very special case... After being encounter suspicious by Rowan in his investigation and curiosity, her trying to avoid-counter him she ended accepting him, to be more openly to him (in more than a sense)... Even after doing it can compromise her loyalty and put her in risk by confide in Rowan, something that could be a grave mistake if your overall regular job is being an spy (well, the Head of the Intelligence in Bloodmeen).

Liurial The Elf... This poor thing... It doesn't matter how good Rowan could try his best to make her a functional independent individual person, she still rely on him and willingly to submit in any form possible, because for her isn't a matter enough of being safe under the wing of a figure of authority, she desire this figure and she will even teach to her ideal figure of authority how she likes to be submitted... Even after abandon her group, the second in command for her she considered not worthy to serve because aspire to be as her dead master who committed grave mistakes... She's like a slave who doesn't want to be free but under a master, it doesn't matter how capable and prepared she could be... Poor thing...

 

[Goblin Bastard]

Hooooo~~ that goblin redhead seems fire.. I'm

totally agree with everything that you've said.. Also, that monk_56 resorted to insults right off the bat.. It completely diluted whatever arguments or facts he may have been trying to present right from the start..

Homies the creator them selves stated Alexia is just a important npc, now she may have a lot of contenr due to popularity and people being super basic but FBM shared from the creators mouth what the character is.

Also goblins now and forever My new crew of Che-Lin, Tue-Row, Tue-san Tue-Mai and Zii-Zii will be over here having fun.

Small, green and keen make the grand trickster gleam.

 

[Deleted member 5269071]

Also goblins now and forever My new crew of Che-Lin, Tue-Row, Tue-san Tue-Mai and Zii-Zii will be over here having fun.

Small, green and keen make the grand trickster gleam.

Username checks out.

Rowan’s descent into goblin, shortstack depravity is why people play this game.

If you’re playing SoC without banging goblin chicks you’re...

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[Deleted member 5269071]

The center idea is about corruption or at least demonstrate that the willing of being good or evil is in everybody independently of their nature... But I think there's is another obfuscated theme, it's around the idea of hypocrisy...

Spoiler: Hypocrisy?

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Alexia... I hate this character... if you play to the loyal route, she by any reason isn't willing to sacrifice herself for Rowan meanwhile her husband (in the most loyal and boring route ever without NTR nor voyeurism nor cheating at all) little by little lose a piece of himself, of whatever he could ever think of himself and while he question his own moral...

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Liurial The Elf... It doesn't matter how good Rowan could try his best to make her a functional independent individual person, she still rely on him and willingly to submit in any form possible, because for her isn't a matter enough of being safe under the wing of a figure of authority, she desire this figure and she will even teach to her ideal figure of authority how she likes to be submitted...

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Helayna is a special case, when she recovers, whatever thoughts she had concerning to help the world against the threat Bloodmeen represent, just fall in nothing if Rowan declare his love for her, for Helayna being in hell but with Rowan as her lover is in a literal sense being in a paradise, a dream come true...

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[ffive]

Alexia... I hate this character... if you play to the loyal route, she by any reason isn't willing to sacrifice herself for Rowan

And exactly what sort of "sacrificing herself" do you have on mind here?

 

[ffive]

Unlike Liurial, Alexia doesn't provide any useful skills, insight, or benefit that are essential to Rowan. Alexia is emotional baggage.

Alexia can become a mage, and supplies Rowan with information about the castle she discovers (like the network of secret tunnels) She's a permanent resident instead of occasional visitor, and as such can observe what Rowan can't.

And, of course, she's also emothional support, not merely baggage.