Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.06] [Vénus Noire]

[Big Green]

I appreciate you trying to be helpful, but...

You can't miss the Fae events. The introduction to the plot is MANDATORY, it happens around week ~26, is preceded by Heartsongs dreams, and if the player played past Raeve keep in the last year, they CANNOT MISS IT.

So while I might be willing to agree the Goblin plot could be communicated better, and maybe promoted better... Some people who took the survey simply don't play the game.

So who is fae?

 

[Rein]

So who is fae?

TheLegend27

 

[Deathstar1200]

But he wants to punish Alexia, when in reallity she is in this whole mess thanks to Rowan. It's like in the end Rowan will tell her: "Alexia, dear, please hear me out. I know that you went through hell, but the real nightmare starts now." And the punishment arc begins.

Let's be real, it's obvious that the whole ntr theme is not optional and it was planned from the very beginning. I can't imagine Andras would take shit from Alexia in given choices. Like lol, if he wants to fuck her, he will. She has no say at all in Bloodmeen, if we take the story and it's theme seriously of course.

But honestly, i know that this whole shit will change their reletionship hard and that it's impossible to write it otherwise. But punish her for that? Seems strange and only in corrupted and crazy Rowan path i guess...

And Alexia is the reason why Rowan started to serve twins in the first place. After getting cucked, he can blame her for betraying him despite everything he's done for her. That could be one of the motivations for "punishment"

 

[Big Green]

And Alexia is the reason why Rowan started to serve twins in the first place. After getting cucked, he can blame her for betraying him despite everything he's done for her. That could be one of the motivations for "punishment"

Naah bro, you can't blame her for being captured. It was Rowan, a so called great adventurer that was tricked like a child and then overpowered and rendered helpless. Twins came for him, not for Alexia, she is just a collateral damage. SO the least he could do for her is trying to rescue from Bloodmeen. Yet you are picturing it like she went on a trip and such an ungrateful and unfaithful wife. And you are missing the point, that if she is not cheating for fun, then it's a high chance that she was raped. Then maybe punish the rapist and not the victim?

 

[Deleted member 5744918]

Does anybody know roughly how many hours of gameplay is in this?
I like the look of the art and might try it.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

But he wants to punish Alexia, when in reallity she is in this whole mess thanks to Rowan. It's like in the end Rowan will tell her: "Alexia, dear, please hear me out. I know that you went through hell, but the real nightmare starts now." And the punishment arc begins.

Let's be real, it's obvious that the whole ntr theme is not optional and it was planned from the very beginning. I can't imagine Andras would take shit from Alexia in given choices. Like lol, if he wants to fuck her, he will. She has no say at all in Bloodmeen, if we take the story and it's theme seriously of course.

But honestly, i know that this whole shit will change their reletionship hard and that it's impossible to write it otherwise. But punish her for that? Seems strange and only in corrupted and crazy Rowan path i guess...

I'm not saying that I agree that is the outcome I want to see (although it would potentially be an appropiete ending for a corrupt Rowan who has usurped the twins). But I do agree that the more Alexia sleeps around in any given play through, the less satisfying it would be for the story to end with out it ever coming to light and seeing the appropriate fall out of that revelation.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

I appreciate you trying to be helpful, but...

You can't miss the Fae events. The introduction to the plot is MANDATORY, it happens around week ~26, is preceded by Heartsongs dreams, and if the player played past Raeve keep in the last year, they CANNOT MISS IT.

So while I might be willing to agree the Goblin plot could be communicated better, and maybe promoted better... Some people who took the survey simply don't play the game.

You can perfectly if you forget to "visit" them... As i said... Seeing Jezera with the button at her side of visit since the beginning when there's no visits can disincentive in think to see Jezera's Area as much as the prison, the arena and the barracks... If i could affort being a patreon without doubt, i would be in the statistic of ppl who couldn't trigger what's new with Fae Event... I'm no meaning about the fox dream or Rowan's second encounter in-dreaming with the Fae Girl who are unavoidable, i'm talkin about when they arrived into Bloodmeen, it's easy to be distracted by main story or other random events and forget complete to "visit" them in Jezera's Area.

 

[Deathstar1200]

Naah bro, you can't blame her for being captured. It was Rowan, a so called great adventurer that was tricked like a child and then overpowered and rendered helpless. Twins came for him, not for Alexia, she is just a collateral damage. SO the least he could do for her is trying to rescue from Bloodmeen. Yet you are picturing it like she went on a trip and such an ungrateful and unfaithful wife. And you are missing the point, that if she is not cheating for fun, then it's a high chance that she was raped. Then maybe punish the rapist and not the victim?

I am not suggesting that Alexia is at fault for being captured. However, it is possible for Rowan to perceive her infidelity as a betrayal. In his mind, the one important thing he held dear, his wife, was taken away from him. Additionally, Jezera could manipulate Rowan into believing that Alexia willingly participated in cheating. This could lead Rowan to blame his wife. This scenario may not be the most logical, but it could be a possible outcome given Rowan's corruption.

The game offers many options to tailor the player's experience. It is important to remember that there is not one specific way that infidelity or Rowan's reaction to it could be portrayed in the game. I am simply proposing one potential scenario among many others. Some players may not be interested in the hardcore cucking aspect and prefer a more mild version. Others may choose to punish the twins and/or Alexia, or not at all. The possibilities are endless.

 

[Big Green]

I am not suggesting that Alexia is at fault for being captured. However, it is possible for Rowan to perceive her infidelity as a betrayal. In his mind, the one important thing he held dear, his wife, was taken away from him. Additionally, Jezera could manipulate Rowan into believing that Alexia willingly participated in cheating. This could lead Rowan to blame his wife. This scenario may not be the most logical, but it could be a possible outcome given Rowan's corruption.

The game offers many options to tailor the player's experience. It is important to remember that there is not one specific way that infidelity or Rowan's reaction to it could be portrayed in the game. I am simply proposing one potential scenario among many others. Some players may not be interested in the hardcore cucking aspect and prefer a more mild version. Others may choose to punish the twins and/or Alexia, or not at all. The possibilities are endless.

Didn't you say before that all thss happens when he gets her back? I mean he already kind of did, living in the same room and all, but i assume you are talking about when he dealt with the twins in the end. So how could Jezera manipulate him then? I doubt that he would listen to her nonsense at this point. Plus i told you it's very stupid to blame Alexia, given the place she was held hostage and it's residents, and as i remember you didn't want just a simple cheating plot.

But then again i admitted before, that this shit can happen in the evil path. But in my opinion he won't care about Alexia that much. Just imagine how many girls he will have at his feet. So the real ntr moment (with tears and cuck boners) we can have only in the good path and then he will not punish, but idk abandon her or somethig like that. Something along the lines of: "Get out of my sight you filthy whore", and she will be a meat toilet for the rest of her life.

 

[Oriandu]

Well, so are the chads in general so i'd say, if the shoe fits...

I dunno, chads usually at least have a few things going on in their brains at any given time. Andras has at most two.

 

[ffive]

Let's be real, it's obvious that the whole ntr theme is not optional and it was planned from the very beginning.

But it literally is optional -- you can disable NTR elements from the game altogether.

 

[GrandPaBrowning]

I can't imagine Andras would take shit from Alexia in given choices. Like lol, if he wants to fuck her, he will. She has no say at all in Bloodmeen, if we take the story and it's theme seriously of course.

That's not in his character. He is brutish and often gets things relatively easy due to being a practical superhuman. But he wants some sport, something interesting. Just forcing Alexia is boring to him.

 

[Big Green]

But it literally is optional -- you can disable NTR elements from the game altogether.

You can but it won't make sense. She is in the demon castle, not in the Disneyland.

That's not in his character. He is brutish and often gets things relatively easy due to being a practical superhuman. But he wants some sport, something interesting. Just forcing Alexia is boring to him.

That's why after he got bored with games he forced himself on her. He is also very impulsive and impatient character. If not for optional stuff, by the end of act 3 Alexia would have a gaping abyss between her legs, the same size as the pit in Rowan's dream.

 

[Deathstar1200]

Didn't you say before that all thss happens when he gets her back? I mean he already kind of did, living in the same room and all, but i assume you are talking about when he dealt with the twins in the end.

No, I didn't mean it that way. It would not just make sense.

I mean evil Rowan could be very possessive and consider Alexia his property. That is a valid path imo. By the way, the idea that Rowan could get rid of her like that is pretty interesting.

 

[ffive]

You can but it won't make sense. She is in the demon castle, not in the Disneyland.

It may not make sense to you, but it's optional just the same. There's no point in claiming that it isn't. And the way the game is written does have to take it into account, otherwise it risks ending up broken for people who do disable this path.

 

[Big Green]

No, I didn't mean it that way. It would not just make sense.

I mean evil Rowan could be very possessive and consider Alexia his property. That is a valid path imo. By the way, the idea that Rowan could get rid of her like that is pretty interesting.

Yeah, well that can work, but only if she cheat on him after he got all powerful and stuff. If she still fucking behind his back by that time, then yes the whole punishment business makes sense. But i think he will be so corrupted already, that he won't bother about this whore. Maybe even drop her along the way throughout act 2.

It may not make sense to you, but it's optional just the same. There's no point in claiming that it isn't. And the way the game is written does have to take it into account, otherwise it risks ending up broken for people who do disable this path.

My god, i know it's optional in the game. It was made for snowflakes, that for some reason came to play a dark corruption themed game and wanted to have rainbows and unicorns.

 

[Rivina]

You can but it won't make sense. She is in the demon castle, not in the Disneyland.

Sure it does, it means that in that game Alexia simply makes better decisions. Decisions that she can still make in the NTR-enabled version.

Alexia: Dafuq is that noise?

A) Go into Andras' bath to see what he's doing and get coerced into giving him a handjob
B) Don't be stupid and just leave him alone.

Alexia: Screw this shit, I'm outta here.

 

[Big Green]

Sure it does, it means that in that game Alexia simply makes better decisions. Decisions that she can still make in the NTR-enabled version.

Alexia: Dafuq is that noise?

A) Go into Andras' bath to see what he's doing and get coerced into giving him a handjob
B) Don't be stupid and just leave him alone.

Alexia: Screw this shit, I'm outta here.

If only she was not a ntr magnet herself. She can't leave her chamber without someone assaulting her. And as i said she is just a useless housewife and can't do shit if being forced. Ah wait of course in this game she can just tell them to stop and then lustful demonic beasts will just stop and say: "Understandable, have a nice day."

 

[Oriandu]

If only she was not a ntr magnet herself. She can't leave her chamber without someone assaulting her. And as i said she is just a useless housewife and can't do shit if being forced. Ah wait of course in this game she can just tell them to stop and then lustful demonic beasts will just stop and say: "Understandable, have a nice day."

You sound like you're trying to defend your rape fantasies without straight up saying that you are.

 

[Big Green]

You sound like you're trying to defend your rape fantasies without straight up saying that you are.

Haha, yeah sure. I personally don't like Alexia that much. I'm more of a Rowan being solo mc kinda guy, but i just know her real role in game and not delusional like some guys here.

And don't forget, kids: Rape in general is a very bad thing. Don't try this at home.