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What are the plans for the cheating Alexia plot?Will Rowan ever learn about the situation and react to it or it will essentially be like the Greyhide's route where Rowan accepts the situation and simply leaves her because she basically became a slave for Jezera/Andras? If its the second one wouldnt that make the idea behind the cheating route obsolete?
Will Alexia betray Rowan for the twins?Will she spy on Rowan for them?
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Time for some critical feedback!
The goblin recruitment ark isn't look bad per say its just the general flavor it give me feels off and in odds with main story ark.
It's like it taken from a different game that is going for different thing thematically.
My grapes with it is in consistency of storytelling. Is it dark fantasy (Witcher/ Berserk like) or it is comedy style fantasy/fairy-tail that's not taking itself too serous? I'm not sure it possible to do both in one game.
To make an example I'm sure you probably acquainted with Terry Pratchett novels and his comedy fantasy and its feels more like it. So i'm suddenly thrown out of dark fantasy story ark written by R.R. Martin where everyone backstab each other and fuck right in to the light-hearted comical fantasy.
Majority of people are there just to jerk off and call it a day so they probably wont even notice.
But when i read parts written by Rein, Arioch and Winter i see that all of them write in the same kind of style and keep consistency of their storytelling in different arks trying to give the reader impression its all written by one author and not small story arks written by different writers going for there own thing.
To sum it up I won't say goblin recruitment ark is bad, its not. it's just obviously aiming with its happy go lucky mood at different audience.
Considering that Exagie is stepping down and Winter and Rein gonna handle goblin ark may be something could be done about it if my critic make sense. or we will be left with this runaway from Disneyland goblins.
The goblin recruitment ark isn't look bad per say its just the general flavor it give me feels off and in odds with main story ark.
It's like it taken from a different game that is going for different thing thematically.
My grapes with it is in consistency of storytelling. Is it dark fantasy (Witcher/ Berserk like) or it is comedy style fantasy/fairy-tail that's not taking itself too serous? I'm not sure it possible to do both in one game.
To make an example I'm sure you probably acquainted with Terry Pratchett novels and his comedy fantasy and its feels more like it. So i'm suddenly thrown out of dark fantasy story ark written by R.R. Martin where everyone backstab each other and fuck right in to the light-hearted comical fantasy.
Majority of people are there just to jerk off and call it a day so they probably wont even notice.
But when i read parts written by Rein, Arioch and Winter i see that all of them write in the same kind of style and keep consistency of their storytelling in different arks trying to give the reader impression its all written by one author and not small story arks written by different writers going for there own thing.
To sum it up I won't say goblin recruitment ark is bad, its not. it's just obviously aiming with its happy go lucky mood at different audience.
Considering that Exagie is stepping down and Winter and Rein gonna handle goblin ark may be something could be done about it if my critic make sense. or we will be left with this runaway from Disneyland goblins.
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Yeah, including such a cheerful and honest bunch in a world that usually has tons of backstabbing.
What were the writers thinking.
What were the writers thinking.
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The goblins having a bit more of a light hearted feel is by design and has been consistent since the earliest discussions on it. A storyline about brutal Orc warlords is going to have a different vibe then the one about the fast-talking goblin swindler kingdom. We want that. People who want to be in grimdark land play the orc plotline and skip it. Players that like a bit more slapdash can come and spend time in gobbo land. You'll recall that Cla-Min has been in the game for years and the Goblin Plotline is tonally much closer to Cla-Min scenes than anything else in the game. When we were thinking up a plotline, we talked a lot about how we wanted to offer a tone that fits with that.
So it was intentional.
Little bit for everyone ha? it make sense in attracting broader audience. but watering down the base line.
I do understand that, Goblins was intended as comic relief from the very beginning.
but can it be done somehow more smartly or intelligent?
For example this wannabe Rowan goblin, i know it suppose to be funny but it looks goofy and kind of dumb.
Even if you trying to please everyone in the same time, all this side plots must be stitched together resanable well to remain cohesive and not in odds with each other!
Little bit for everyone ha? it make sense in attracting broader audience. but watering down the base line.
I do understand that, Goblins was intended as comic relief from the very beginning.
but can it be done somehow more smartly or intelligent?
For example this wannabe Rowan goblin, i know it suppose to be funny but it looks goofy and kind of dumb.
Even if you trying to please everyone in the same time, all this side plots must be stitched together resanable well to remain cohesive and not in odds with each other!
Anyone else thinks that Andras/Alexia route feels a bit rushed?She suddenly loses her mind becomes a toy for Andras.It just feels like an endgame situation.
This game supposed have 3 separate acts and it feels like that we already reached the end of that story.If Alexia ends up becoming just a slave to Andras then her character loses her core element.She IS the wife of Rowan.Rowan essentially sold his soul to Twins just to save her.This is why I disliked the Greyhide route where Rowan just accepts the fact that Alexia is attracted to Greyhide then leaves her.And besides if Alexia is no more Rowan's wife then the story stops being a cheating/NTR plot.It becomes a story where Rowan sees his ex with her new boyfriend.In the current version of the Rowan doesn't even know about this situation if you play the NTR route. I hope that the game won"t just start an event where Alexia end things with Rowan for her new partner at the end of Act 1.I believe its still to early for that.A story where Alexia betrays her husband and sabotages his plans for the approval of her new partner would be interesting.Or a scene where Rowan catches them where Alexia denies the fact and blames it on some sort of magic just like the end scene of the succubus event would also be interesting.What I am saying is that if the game suddenly decides that Alexia is no longer Rowan's wife she loses her character.I want Rowan to be devastated from the revelation that his wife have been betraying him with her "kidnappers".
This game supposed have 3 separate acts and it feels like that we already reached the end of that story.If Alexia ends up becoming just a slave to Andras then her character loses her core element.She IS the wife of Rowan.Rowan essentially sold his soul to Twins just to save her.This is why I disliked the Greyhide route where Rowan just accepts the fact that Alexia is attracted to Greyhide then leaves her.And besides if Alexia is no more Rowan's wife then the story stops being a cheating/NTR plot.It becomes a story where Rowan sees his ex with her new boyfriend.In the current version of the Rowan doesn't even know about this situation if you play the NTR route. I hope that the game won"t just start an event where Alexia end things with Rowan for her new partner at the end of Act 1.I believe its still to early for that.A story where Alexia betrays her husband and sabotages his plans for the approval of her new partner would be interesting.Or a scene where Rowan catches them where Alexia denies the fact and blames it on some sort of magic just like the end scene of the succubus event would also be interesting.What I am saying is that if the game suddenly decides that Alexia is no longer Rowan's wife she loses her character.I want Rowan to be devastated from the revelation that his wife have been betraying him with her "kidnappers".
What are the plans for the cheating Alexia plot?Will Rowan ever learn about the situation and react to it or it will essentially be like the Greyhide's route where Rowan accepts the situation and simply leaves her because she basically became a slave for Jezera/Andras? If its the second one wouldnt that make the idea behind the cheating route obsolete?
Will Alexia betray Rowan for the twins?Will she spy on Rowan for them?
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We're not watering anything down. Seeds of Chaos is simply capable of maintaining a reasonable range of tones. They're also not "comic relief". The Goblimony Matrimony will have more moments of brevity then the Orciad. But, it's not about to be a comedy plot either. The Goblins can be quite vicious when they want to be, and the Goblin war has done a real number on their society.
My request is simply to reserve judgement until you have seen more of where we plan to go with it all.
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We do have plans for the Alexia corruption arc. And we're excited to share them all with you guys...when we release all that exciting future content!
I had a similar complaint when they changed the initial Andras x Alexia NTR sex from Andras tricking Alexia into Alexia choosing Andras even though she knows her husband is still alive. That is quite a leap! But I am guessing they changed that to make it less rapey for perhaps Patreon censorship reasons. I liked the old way of Alexia hating that Andras tricked her and hating Andras afterwards leading to a slow build of Andras corrupting her, even though she hates him, until she eventually chooses to fuck him willingly.