Jynx_lucky_j

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Wait a second, I mean if I rescue Delane with the help of the matron orc,
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. And why are they giving content to Arzyl? Continue the main plot for God's sake.
Yeah, if you don't support Werden you have an option send her away before the attack. But if you do support Werden then she stays and gets used to punish you for trying to betray the twins.

If it is any consolation, I actually don't think Delane's fate that bad all things considered.
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Raven_Light

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Wait a second, I mean if I rescue Delane with the help of the matron orc,
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. And why are they giving content to Arzyl? Continue the main plot for God's sake.
Yeah I like Arzyl as much as Madeline but like idk feel like she has little more than Xzaratl. I agree Arzyl, Jeerza, Rowan is a win and nerds to be there, but rather see Xzaratl, Rowan, Jeerza and Xzaratl, Alexia, Andras. Funny thing theres still content of Xzaratl blacked out that involves Alexias choice with Rowan. But either way still good content choice.
 

xonsmulus

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Not sure how it happened but getting a weird glitch on the mac version where if i ever check in on the army in the castle it becomes the background for every event moving forwards, not sure how to get rid of it or if this has happened to other people but saving on a different screen/reloading has not worked Screen Shot 2023-10-10 at 8.42.53 AM.png
 

f95_user

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the last update is really made old saves broken. and even if tweak the game code it will need to change many places to fix all. first it is reinit quest book, also buildings tooltips and maybe even more.
 

Gicoo

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Why development has slowed down so much?
Patreons keep rewarding even the current slow progress with money, so there is no incentive to change.
Otherwise, bad/no planning, entangled with countless subplots that in their sum are a detriment to the main plot, the latter isn't touched upon at all because of it.
 

Morsin

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i love this game, it has some of the best NTR of any of these games. thing is, every time i come back to replay it, i seem to get further and further behind the deadline and get LESS content instead of more before the time runs out lol. i really wish the deadline would just be removed so i can play this game and grind for NTR content instead of focusing on what the demons want :p hell, i'd even be down for NTR consequences to missing the deadline but continuing to play


Patreons keep rewarding even the current slow progress with money, so there is no incentive to change.
Otherwise, bad/no planning, entangled with countless subplots that in their sum are a detriment to the main plot, the latter isn't touched upon at all because of it.
lol, i didn't see your post when i typed this reply but you're gonna hate me because i'm basically saying "let me delay the main story more so i can get cheated on more with that side content" hahaha
 
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Sharinel

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lol, i didn't see your post when i typed this reply but you're gonna hate me because i'm basically saying "let me delay the main story more so i can get cheated on more with that side content" hahaha
I think you are talking about different things though? You I think are talking about the in-game days to complete sections of the story, while Gicoo is talking about the amount of real life months to update the game and/or main story.

Apologies if I misunderstood and that's not what you are talking about
 

Big Green

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I think you are talking about different things though? You I think are talking about the in-game days to complete sections of the story, while Gicoo is talking about the amount of real life months to update the game and/or main story.

Apologies if I misunderstood and that's not what you are talking about
I think it's actually very simple. The first guy is complaining about development time, but the second is just coming out and telling us that he is indeed a big cuck irl.
 
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sortakinda

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Dec 15, 2020
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Why development has slowed down so much?
It's always the same. Developer gets money and thus developer loses any interest in developing the game as he already got what he wanted, and thus there is no point for developer to spent time developing the game further.
 

Jynx_lucky_j

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Why development has slowed down so much?
Patreons keep rewarding even the current slow progress with money, so there is no incentive to change.
Otherwise, bad/no planning, entangled with countless subplots that in their sum are a detriment to the main plot, the latter isn't touched upon at all because of it.
It's always the same. Developer gets money and thus developer loses any interest in developing the game as he already got what he wanted, and thus there is no point for developer to spent time developing the game further.
This game updates every 2 months like clockwork. The average update has about 50-60k words, and dozens of CGs.

If you want to complain that the new content isn't to you interest, that you wish they would focus elsewhere, or even that you think the content is bad, well that is all well in good.

But to imply that the developers are not working on the game or have taken the money and ran in completely disingenuous and unfair to the creators.
 

adrad555

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Nov 27, 2018
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This game updates every 2 months like clockwork. The average update has about 50-60k words, and dozens of CGs.

If you want to complain that the new content isn't to you interest, that you wish they would focus elsewhere, or even that you think the content is bad, well that is all well in good.

But to imply that the developers are not working on the game or have taken the money and ran in completely disingenuous and unfair to the creators.
Its been the same or less amount of main story content in the 1st 2 years than in the last 6... So yeah totally not following the money!

Like that's the whole point you are not making porn you are making a sex game you need to do the story 1st then flesh out the fetishes. Always set goals and follow them or its a shit show with no goals and quality like this game.

Still mad that a good story was abandoned for sex... Is the "presumed" good writer that left making any games/novels?
 

adrad555

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Nov 27, 2018
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i love this game, it has some of the best NTR of any of these games. thing is, every time i come back to replay it, i seem to get further and further behind the deadline and get LESS content instead of more before the time runs out lol. i really wish the deadline would just be removed so i can play this game and grind for NTR content instead of focusing on what the demons want :p hell, i'd even be down for NTR consequences to missing the deadline but continuing to play



lol, i didn't see your post when i typed this reply but you're gonna hate me because i'm basically saying "let me delay the main story more so i can get cheated on more with that side content" hahaha
I have a question that has been confusing me since iv learned that NTR exists.

Why do you not simply go outside get a GF/BF and allow them to cheat? You are happy they are happy everybody is happy.

Like you have fantasies that are easy to fulfill. If I was able to make a big boobed harem of virgin girls that I could milk and impregnate... It would take an army to get me away from them titties.

While you can make your dream come true yet you don't? WHY!!!

Don't let your dreams be dreams. Yesterday you said tomorrow so just do it. Make your dreams come true. Some people dream of success, while you're going to wake up and work hard at it. JUST DO IT!!!
 

Rein

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Like that's the whole point you are not making porn you are making a sex game you need to do the story 1st then flesh out the fetishes. Always set goals and follow them or its a shit show with no goals and quality like this game.

Still mad that a good story was abandoned for sex... Is the "presumed" good writer that left making any games/novels?
I am genuinely baffled by the accusation that the game's main story was abandoned to focused on sex. I can't believe someone looks at Rastedel and thinks "Oh man, they really made a shallow plot that's only about sex!"

Is there some bizarro version on SoC in the download section I am not aware of?
 

Gicoo

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Feb 18, 2018
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This game updates every 2 months like clockwork. The average update has about 50-60k words, and dozens of CGs.

If you want to complain that the new content isn't to you interest, that you wish they would focus elsewhere, or even that you think the content is bad, well that is all well in good.

But to imply that the developers are not working on the game or have taken the money and ran in completely disingenuous and unfair to the creators.
Where the fuck did I claim there aren't any updates and that the developers are disengenious? There are updates and they are not about the main story, but extremely minor stuff. Ophelia x Indarah is a subsection of Alexias job, stuff that has little to no impcat on the main story. The Hellanya updates deal with a minor character that has little to nothing to do with the main story. Andras x Rowan and Jezara x Arzyl is some sex scene with the twins in subplots. Goblin Town is a sidequest with a bit more meat on it, but it still has less priority than the main story.
 
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Jynx_lucky_j

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Its been the same or less amount of main story content in the 1st 2 years than in the last 6... So yeah totally not following the money!

Like that's the whole point you are not making porn you are making a sex game you need to do the story 1st then flesh out the fetishes. Always set goals and follow them or its a shit show with no goals and quality like this game.

Still mad that a good story was abandoned for sex... Is the "presumed" good writer that left making any games/novels?
Where the fuck did I claim there aren't any updates and that the developers are disengenious? There are updates and they are not about the main story, but extremely minor stuff. Ophelia x Indarah is a subsection of Alexias job, stuff that has little to no impcat on the main story. The Hellanya updates deal with a minor character that has little to nothing to do with the main story. Andras x Rowan and Jezara x Arzyl is some sex scene with the twins in subplots. Goblin Town is a sidequest with a bit more meat on it, but it still has less priority than the main story.
As I said being upset with where they choose to focus is a perfectly valid critique. You want them to put less focus on the side content and focus more on the main story. That is valid. But development didn't slow down. They are developing at the same speed they just aren't advancing the main story anymore. But the way people often word this critique make is sound that the developers are just sitting on their thumbs.

If anything it was the fact that they were focusing on the main story too much that go us in to the current quagmire. They put so much focus on the main story in the past that the main story is pretty much done for this game. However there was all sorts of side content that they'd promised during that time, so now the main story is finished and they are instead working on providing all that other content.

So if you want to say that they should abandon all the unfinished side contend they'd been promising for years and start working on the next game immediately you are certainly welcome to. But I can tell you that isn't the general vibe that comes across in their actual patron discord, so they are more likely to listen to the people that are actually giving them money than random internet pirates.
I have a question that has been confusing me since iv learned that NTR exists.

Why do you not simply go outside get a GF/BF and allow them to cheat? You are happy they are happy everybody is happy.

Like you have fantasies that are easy to fulfill. If I was able to make a big boobed harem of virgin girls that I could milk and impregnate... It would take an army to get me away from them titties.

While you can make your dream come true yet you don't? WHY!!!

Don't let your dreams be dreams. Yesterday you said tomorrow so just do it. Make your dreams come true. Some people dream of success, while you're going to wake up and work hard at it. JUST DO IT!!!
While I'm usually pretty indifferent to NTR, I have tried out a number of other fantasies irl, and to be honest most of them are better as fantasies that reality.

In addition not everyone is fantasizing about being the cuckhold. Some people fantasize about being the chad or even the girl. Which are two roles that would be more challenging to pull off.

Still others get a voyeuristic thrill out out of watching. When I do find a NTR story that does appeal to me I probably fall in to this category, in that it is almost like watching a train wreck that I can't look away from, but I'm glad I'm not actually part of it.
 
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