NewTricks

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I am genuinely baffled by the accusation that the game's main story was abandoned to focused on sex. I can't believe someone looks at Rastedel and thinks "Oh man, they really made a shallow plot that's only about sex!"

Is there some bizarro version on SoC in the download section I am not aware of?
It is even more bizzaro that they didn't notice that the main plot focused heavily on sex in the first place.
 

markeen

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May 2, 2018
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this part of the game is the best for me. a Holier than thou Character Arbitron of the Goddess Solansia Priestess Marrianne will be corrupted by a character not being foreshadowed. this scene is lit.
 

perles75

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May 16, 2020
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It is rather well known that at the beginning the devs rushed to the end of act I leaving many things incomplete or dead ends -a product of bad/chaotic planning. Now they are working systematically to complete the storylines and buff up content in terms of events and characters development before moving on, instead of go until the end of act 3 with a patchwork job. You can decide if it's money-grabbing or not.
 

Lavinotinto

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It is rather well known that at the beginning the devs rushed to the end of act I leaving many things incomplete or dead ends -a product of bad/chaotic planning. Now they are working systematically to complete the storylines and buff up content in terms of events and characters development before moving on, instead of go until the end of act 3 with a patchwork job. You can decide if it's money-grabbing or not.
It's sad but devs don't listen to anything that is said here, only to their patrons (which is fine). And I tell you, I love this fuckn game, I would even dare to make speedrunners. But how long has it been since Act 1 was finished? I mean, abandoning this game that has an audience would be nuts. At this point it feels like trying to watch Naruto Shippuden for the main plot, but realizing you have to watch 100 episodes of filler first.
 
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Rein

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It's sad but devs don't listen to anything that is said here, only to their patrons (which is fine). And I tell you, I love this fuckn game, I would even dare to make speedrunners. But how long has it been since Act 1 was finished? I mean, abandoning this game that has an audience would be nuts. At this point it feels like trying to watch Naruto Shippuden for the main plot, but realizing you have to watch 100 episodes of filler first.
I do read you people, against my better judgment.

I know many of you want the main plot to move along, and it is under development. But we cannot leave certain loose ends untied.
 

perles75

Active Member
May 16, 2020
884
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It's sad but devs don't listen to anything that is said here, only to their patrons (which is fine). And I tell you, I love this fuckn game, I would even dare to make speedrunners. But how long has it been since Act 1 was finished? I mean, abandoning this game that has an audience would be nuts. At this point it feels like trying to watch Naruto Shippuden for the main plot, but realizing you have to watch 100 episodes of filler first.
actually I'm pretty happy that the devs finish cooking what they put on the barbecue before moving on, it can only strengthen the cohesion of the next acts. Not to mention that now the devs have learned the lesson of the previous approach and they'll work with a clearer flow in mind.
 

Mfka5

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As long as they are not developing it like ravager devs do thats absolutely fine.
Dont wanna move on without finishing what had to be done, so we miss out content and have to replay again, its annoying way those devs develop stuff
 

errte13

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Oct 6, 2020
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It's sad but devs don't listen to anything that is said here, only to their patrons (which is fine). And I tell you, I love this fuckn game, I would even dare to make speedrunners. But how long has it been since Act 1 was finished? I mean, abandoning this game that has an audience would be nuts. At this point it feels like trying to watch Naruto Shippuden for the main plot, but realizing you have to watch 100 episodes of filler first.
I vaguely remember debates over some plot points being weird/inconsistent in this forum and I think writers conceded to that, which is way there's some rewriting going on. They listen, but you gotta bring solid arguments rather than plain whining.
 

adrad555

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Nov 27, 2018
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I vaguely remember debates over some plot points being weird/inconsistent in this forum and I think writers conceded to that, which is way there's some rewriting going on. They listen, but you gotta bring solid arguments rather than plain whining.
They really don't they have there vested interests and there preferred sexual interactions if it goes against those it does not mater even if there is a chance to remove inconsistencies with a few sentences.

Its more likely you will get your post deleted instead of getting an actual response addressing the faults. Like if its confusion about the game they have great service but if its something that you think is lacking, you wont hear from them besides a few words (often sarcastic, or a diversion).

By the way isn't it customary that if you delete the post you need to at least tell the reason of "why", instead of just doing it silently. You know so that people stop doing it? It's less work for the people and the moderators.

And wow I am really but hurt about this! This could have been a great story and a great game sadly the horny has won...
 

Jynx_lucky_j

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By the way isn't it customary that if you delete the post you need to at least tell the reason of "why", instead of just doing it silently. You know so that people stop doing it? It's less work for the people and the moderators.
My guess would be a combination of your political remarks and the general hateful demeanor of your comments. I've had one of my posts edited by a moderator to remove a political reference, and I had a post deleted when I made fun of a guy for complaining that he had to read text to to actually play a visual novel.

I would recommend leaving politics out of your comments, and to try to be civil and constructive with your comments and criticism. At least it has worked for me since those two incidents.
 

adrad555

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Nov 27, 2018
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My guess would be a combination of your political remarks and the general hateful demeanor of your comments. I've had one of my posts edited by a moderator to remove a political reference, and I had a post deleted when I made fun of a guy for complaining that he had to read text to to actually play a visual novel.

I would recommend leaving politics out of your comments, and to try to be civil and constructive with your comments and criticism. At least it has worked for me since those two incidents.
But that's the thing you know why, while I don't. Nobody told me shit. And I don't think I put anything political in my last post. As for aggression, is sarcasm considered aggression? OMG they will throw me in jail! Iv been abusive my whole life!!! I THOUGHT WHEN PEOPLE WERE GROANING IT WAS FROM LAUGHTER!!! NOW I KNOW IT WAS FROM PAIN!!!! HOW CAN I LIVE WITH MYSELF!!!!
 
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But that's the thing you know why, while I don't. Nobody told me shit. And I don't think I put anything political in my last post. As for aggression, is sarcasm considered aggression? OMG they will throw me in jail! Iv been abusive my whole life!!! I THOUGHT WHEN PEOPLE WERE GROANING IT WAS FROM LAUGHTER!!! NOW I KNOW IT WAS FROM PAIN!!!! HOW CAN I LIVE WITH MYSELF!!!!
Politics aside, if the aforementioned 'hateful demeanour' is a major factor, your post would set off a physical manifestation alarm that would reach out and slap whatever person of meaning it had to in order to galvanise them into action. Ergo, you can sook all you want, but the only person to blame for your actions is yourself.
 

Jynx_lucky_j

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May 1, 2021
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But that's the thing you know why, while I don't. Nobody told me shit. And I don't think I put anything political in my last post. As for aggression, is sarcasm considered aggression? OMG they will throw me in jail! Iv been abusive my whole life!!! I THOUGHT WHEN PEOPLE WERE GROANING IT WAS FROM LAUGHTER!!! NOW I KNOW IT WAS FROM PAIN!!!! HOW CAN I LIVE WITH MYSELF!!!!
It might not have been your last post. In both my cases the comments had been up for a day or two before action was taken on them.

And it has been a long established fact that tone can be really hard to discern in text form. I'll admit that I myself was uncertain how much you had to say was satire and how much was legitimate grievance. The thing is no matter how over the top you are, there are people that really do act that way and express those beliefs. So for most practicle purposes in doesn't matter to people whether you are really an asshole or if you are just pretending to be an asshole. In the end it is a distinction without a difference.

But by all means ignore my advice. They aren't my posts, so I don't really care if they get deleted. :sleep:
 

Rein

Active Member
Game Developer
May 8, 2017
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By the way isn't it customary that if you delete the post you need to at least tell the reason of "why", instead of just doing it silently. You know so that people stop doing it? It's less work for the people and the moderators.
It was probably the Hitler remarks.

I read it. I had a good laugh. Particularly about Maud being apparently a feminist insert.

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