Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.07] [Vénus Noire]

[Filipis]

Pregnancy overblowing the cast? Surely you jest. It's not NTR if she only goes around sleeping with other men/creatures. It's just corruption.

NTR does not inherently contain Pregnancy as a component, but it absolutely can. Like others said, NTR is about the morality/honor aspect of the character in question.

That said, I agree that pregnancy should be the default consequence of NTR relationships in these types of games - especially ones that could allow the player to choose the father of those 'bastard' children. And given that Alexia is faced with numerous humanoid lovers (Werewolf, Tauren, Orc, Demon), it would be a tragedy if they didn't feature scenes for each possible offspring of pairing. What would be even more tragic is if turned out that Alexis isn't necessarily infertile, but that her and Rowan just aren't all that compatible (but not impossible for the purists among us) in terms of breeding. Talk about twisting the knife...

 

[Samantha_Gaming]

NTR does not inherently contain Pregnancy as a component, but it absolutely can. Like others said, NTR is about the morality/honor aspect of the character in question.

That said, I agree that pregnancy should be the default consequence of NTR relationships in these types of games - especially ones that could allow the player to choose the father of those 'bastard' children. And given that Alexia is faced with numerous humanoid lovers (Werewolf, Tauren, Orc, Demon), it would be a tragedy if they didn't feature scenes for each possible offspring of pairing. What would be even more tragic is if turned out that Alexis isn't necessarily infertile, but that her and Rowan just aren't all that compatible (but not impossible for the purists among us) in terms of breeding. Talk about twisting the knife...

Don't forget that merman(?) guy she had mated with in that little aquarium. A'ight, as long as there's pregnancy, i have no qualms about it. I just hope they give such pregnancy justice by clearly stating who the father is and what will rowan's reaction be. Not gonna lie though, that minotaur D must've stretched Alexia's P so much it must've looked like a gaping cavern after all that mating session of theirs.

 

[RedPillBlues]

What's your next move? What storylines get axed, and which are finished, as you move the plot to act 2?

Axe the gay path that randomly got inserted, easy. Next being the Alexias shift to almost replace Rowan as the MC.

 

[Samantha_Gaming]

Axe the gay path that randomly got inserted, easy. Next being the Alexias shift to almost replace Rowan as the MC.

Removing Gay path, check. Removing Alexia as an FMC? Are you high or what? That redhead is one of the reasons why i became an avid fan of this game! Do you have anything against redheads?

 

[RedPillBlues]

Removing Gay path, check. Removing Alexia as an FMC? Are you high or what? That redhead is one of the reasons why i became an avid fan of this game! Do you have anything against redheads?

The question was how would someone remove bloat; reducing her role, that wasn't part of the games scope originally is an obvious solution. Its clear to see that her role has increased hugely even just in the last few years, and its a massive factor. You could say "oh its because shes so popular in the polls" yet despite her increase in plot/scenes the games financials have stagnated for a long time. Even before the two things I said, the games scope was already insane, those two being added/expanded, would be the first to go IMO. Even as I read more after I posted Rein themselves said "Does Alexia really need 5 jobs?"Feel free to disagree on how you would cut down bloat, but this is how I would do it while still trying to stay close to the original concept.

 

[hafasd]

How do I trigger Jezera x Alexia scenes?

 

[Samantha_Gaming]

The question was how would someone remove bloat; reducing her role, that wasn't part of the games scope originally is an obvious solution. Its clear to see that her role has increased hugely even just in the last few years, and its a massive factor. You could say "oh its because shes so popular in the polls" yet despite her increase in plot/scenes the games financials have stagnated for a long time. Even before the two things I said, the games scope was already insane, those two being added/expanded, would be the first to go IMO. Even as I read more after I posted Rein themselves said "Does Alexia really need 5 jobs?"Feel free to disagree on how you would cut down bloat, but this is how I would do it while still trying to stay close to the original concept.

I agree about the part of having too many jobs, but given that Alexia is vital in the corruption and netorare aspect of the game, i think removing her role would not only stagnate but probably lose more support to the game. Maybe the reason why the game has financially stagnated was because the game had become too generic. Maybe it's time to introduce new and exciting variables and situations. It was supposed to be NTR but so far, Rowan has been so dense and oblivious about what's happening behind his back every time he goes out of castle Bloodmeen. Maybe it's time for Rowan to be confronted by Alexia's activities of sleeping around. Liural could give him a hint. Or even Cla-min could do that. An NTR game that keeps the cuckold in the dark is like a person with perfect vision leading a blind person in an extremely dark road at midnight.

 

[perles75]

Axe the gay path that randomly got inserted, easy. Next being the Alexias shift to almost replace Rowan as the MC.

You would be a great game designer in touch with the audience of your game... /s

 

[perles75]

pls give more scenes/roles to Dazzanath. he becomes a spy but no story about it despite him having enough seductive power to make hero suck his cock. imagine the potential how many times he could use him while they are under the same roof. (especially if he could corrupt both him and alexia, a similar approach to X'zaratl but with a more sinister manipulative undertone where he just uses them for his own gain since he gets power from sex)

Agree about Dazzanath, he's a very interesting minor character. The problem might be, as you say, that he might end up to be a slightly more malicious carbon copy of X'zaratl with very similar scenes. But if the devs gave him some specific agenda maybe...

 

[xsssssssss]

Forcing Jezera into submission would require literally deposing her as the ruler of Bloodmeen.

I'm more curious if Rowan/Jezera dynamic is always going to have to be him submitting to get rewarded or if there is potential for a more relationship of of equals.

 

[Big Green]

I agree about the part of having too many jobs, but given that Alexia is vital in the corruption and netorare aspect of the game

She is, yes. But does she have to be a second mc, or have even more content than Rowan? I don't think so. Even though i agree with you that this game was designed with ntr as a default setting (otherwise it's just ridiculous), generally these games follow only 1 perspective. Designating such a big role to Alexia and shifting focus to her was a big mistake in my opinion and made a game insanely bloated. They had to chose at some point who is more important and just follow that path, so my grandchildren may have a chance at seeing part 3. But for some reason we have a game where we follow both and they are both cucking each other lol. It's like a game inside a game.

 

[goodguy80]

All I want in next update is more scenes in Grayhide arc for Aleixa

 

[Samantha_Gaming]

She is, yes. But does she have to be a second mc, or have even more content than Rowan? I don't think so. Even though i agree with you that this game was designed with ntr as a default setting (otherwise it's just ridiculous), generally these games follow only 1 perspective. Designating such a big role to Alexia and shifting focus to her was a big mistake in my opinion and made a game insanely bloated. They had to chose at some point who is more important and just follow that path, so my grandchildren may have a chance at seeing part 3. But for some reason we have a game where we follow both and they are both cucking each other lol. It's like a game inside a game.

Huh. Well, tbh, i find it impossible for the NTR tag to make itself more obvious if Alexia was not the focus of the "one being stolen by others". Since Helayna was just originally Rowan's student of sorts. Also, i guess the dev can't help the situation much since Alexia, the red-head wife was just such a seductive and spicy character that she became an instant hit with those who openly fund the game. Thus making her the FMC (Female Main Character) of the game. Well, i can't deny the part of both husband and wife trying to play a game of cuck and seek with one another but i really hope Rowan would stop being such a clueless f*ck just once and actually catch Andras breeding Alexia non-stop. Would he feel betrayed? Would he feel regretful? Would he feel guilty of not being capable of giving Alexia a bunch of kids? Now that is a food for thought.

 

[Deleted member 6872404]

This game needs more pegging

 

[Xetrcf]

Huh. Well, tbh, i find it impossible for the NTR tag to make itself more obvious if Alexia was not the focus of the "one being stolen by others". Since Helayna was just originally Rowan's student of sorts. Also, i guess the dev can't help the situation much since Alexia, the red-head wife was just such a seductive and spicy character that she became an instant hit with those who openly fund the game. Thus making her the FMC (Female Main Character) of the game. Well, i can't deny the part of both husband and wife trying to play a game of cuck and seek with one another but i really hope Rowan would stop being such a clueless f*ck just once and actually catch Andras breeding Alexia non-stop. Would he feel betrayed? Would he feel regretful? Would he feel guilty of not being capable of giving Alexia a bunch of kids? Now that is a food for thought.

i agree with u. alexia deserve more events and cg, but become main character like Rowan seems impossible.

 

[Big Green]

Huh. Well, tbh, i find it impossible for the NTR tag to make itself more obvious if Alexia was not the focus of the "one being stolen by others". Since Helayna was just originally Rowan's student of sorts. Also, i guess the dev can't help the situation much since Alexia, the red-head wife was just such a seductive and spicy character that she became an instant hit with those who openly fund the game. Thus making her the FMC (Female Main Character) of the game. Well, i can't deny the part of both husband and wife trying to play a game of cuck and seek with one another but i really hope Rowan would stop being such a clueless f*ck just once and actually catch Andras breeding Alexia non-stop. Would he feel betrayed? Would he feel regretful? Would he feel guilty of not being capable of giving Alexia a bunch of kids? Now that is a food for thought.

He has his own harem at this point and Alexia is a castle whore. So yeah i doubt he would cry about it like a typical pathetic cuck mc. You can argue that he can be pristine and proper by not fucking everything that draws breath, but so can Alexia. But we both know that's not the case in this game.

 

[Filipis]

Huh. Well, tbh, i find it impossible for the NTR tag to make itself more obvious if Alexia was not the focus of the "one being stolen by others". Since Helayna was just originally Rowan's student of sorts. Also, i guess the dev can't help the situation much since Alexia, the red-head wife was just such a seductive and spicy character that she became an instant hit with those who openly fund the game. Thus making her the FMC (Female Main Character) of the game. Well, i can't deny the part of both husband and wife trying to play a game of cuck and seek with one another but i really hope Rowan would stop being such a clueless f*ck just once and actually catch Andras breeding Alexia non-stop. Would he feel betrayed? Would he feel regretful? Would he feel guilty of not being capable of giving Alexia a bunch of kids? Now that is a food for thought.

I mean, for this to be true NTR, conflict between Alexia and Rowan has to happen eventually, right? Rowan must inevitably learn that Alexia has found "comfort" (depending on the path) in other men, and doesn't care who the father of her children is - just as long as someone gives her children.

Honestly, sounds like an amazing opportunity to explore one of the more tragic ways a couple can create distance between themselves, as infertility is a IRL problem that haunts many. Not really necessary to go too deep into the subject, but at least give Alexia some justification (unless she is on the slut/corruption path) for falling into Andreas' arms...

 

[Nym85]

Will depend on the exact shape of Pro-twin routes.

I have to say the Andras X Rowan arc definitely hinting at Andras seeing Rowan as a fuck buddy who he actually listens to. Rowan is clearly supposed to follow commands but his opinions and advice get heard and acted upon. There is respect there.

Never got any feeling of respect from Jez.

 

[ashkatchemall25]

I have to say the Andras X Rowan arc definitely hinting at Andras seeing Rowan as a fuck buddy who he actually listens to. Rowan is clearly supposed to follow commands but his opinions and advice get heard and acted upon. There is respect there.

Never got any feeling of respect from Jez.

While I ain't into that type of content myself, I have to agree with you, that even though Andras is after Rowans chick, the dude does have respect for Rowan either way because he does listen to the advise when given and is willing to have a relationship with him also. NTR can be mixed in there, but it does seem to be hinting at that type of relationship.

 

[Samantha_Gaming]

He has his own harem at this point and Alexia is a castle whore. So yeah i doubt he would cry about it like a typical pathetic cuck mc. You can argue that he can be pristine and proper by not fucking everything that draws breath, but so can Alexia. But we both know that's not the case in this game.

Well, i dunno what route it was on but Alexia did seem to doubt Rowan's masculinity at some point. She wasn't even in the corruption route when it happened i think. So yeah, somewhere along the line, it seems Alexia got a hint that Andras was also spreading Rowan's (Uranus, well, in this case, his anus) lmao. And she was actually right to suspect that way all along. If Alexia was a castle whore, then is it safe to say that Rowan has become a b*tchy gay as well?