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Aenys_Faelin

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Does it have more gay content for now? (For bottom Rowan).
I don't played for a while, since it had like 20 scenes for Alexia, 10 straight-rowan's scenes and just 5 or less gay scenes
They put one of the best boys (weird sex fish) in a job role to never be seen outside of it, which annoys me greatly since it could easily be another great b/b/g threesome with Rowan
 

Goading

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Only if we get her third event in the next update. That CG is for her second event from the last update and the last post on Patreon didn't mention Che-Lin getting another event this time. So unless they sneak it in there we don't get to plow the busty gobbo until 2025.
Her third event might not even have it also, I imagine she’s the type who won’t put out until Rowan does something big and proves himself loyal to her, like solve the goblin conflict in her favour. It could be a lots of events away, but it will certainly be worth the wait. I think she has the cutest sprite in the game so hopefully the CGs will be equally gorgeous.
 

MasterBlaxter

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Her third event might not even have it also, I imagine she’s the type who won’t put out until Rowan does something big and proves himself loyal to her, like solve the goblin conflict in her favour. It could be a lots of events away, but it will certainly be worth the wait. I think she has the cutest sprite in the game so hopefully the CGs will be equally gorgeous.
I would be surprised if there isn't a sex scene with Che-Lin as part of her third event. The second event was already building towards it. So far Zii-Zii and Tue-San have had sex scenes prior to the wedding, with Tue-San getting an additional one during the wedding if you chose her path (I'd expect Zii-Zii will get something similar if you choose to support her over Tue-Row, but who knows when we'll get her wedding resolution scenes). Zii-Zii also gets an additional scene if you support Tue-Row (I think you get the option to help Tue-Row train her regardless of whether or not you did Zii-Zii's subquests, but I haven't tested that). My guess is that Che-Lin will have a sex scene for her third event and possibly another sex scene during the wedding or after it if you choose to support her.

I'm unsure if supporting Che-Lin means not supporting Tue-Row - Unlike Zii-Zii, Che-Lin doesn't have any leverage over Tue-Row and I don't see her having much claim over the rest of the goblins if she decided to shank him at the ceremony. So far it's seemed to me that her route ends with her as a trusted advisor with influence over Tue-Row, but not control over him. Remains to be seen what happens in 2025 once we start getting the rest of the potential wedding resolutions.
 
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Goading

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I'm unsure if supporting Che-Lin means not supporting Tue-Row - Unlike Zii-Zii, Che-Lin doesn't have any leverage over Tue-Row and I don't see her having much claim over the rest of the goblins if she decided to shank him at the ceremony. So far it's seemed to me that her route ends with her as a trusted advisor with influence over Tue-Row, but not control over him.
Maybe I’m wrong but I can’t see her forgiving him, she seems adamant to reject all his offers. Perhaps she agrees to be his advisor for now with the goal to eventually seize power at a later date by taking him, Zii-Zii and Tue-San all out so she’s the only logical leader left. It feels like her grudge is one she will not drop for anything, she was literally stabbed in the back, it’s unforgivable.

I need to go back and read her events, I hope you’re right about a pre-wedding scene.
 

MasterBlaxter

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Maybe I’m wrong but I can’t see her forgiving him, she seems adamant to reject all his offers. Perhaps she agrees to be his advisor for now with the goal to eventually seize power at a later date by taking him, Zii-Zii and Tue-San all out so she’s the only logical leader left. It feels like her grudge is one she will not drop for anything, she was literally stabbed in the back, it’s unforgivable.

I need to go back and read her events, I hope you’re right about a pre-wedding scene.
From what I've seen so far, Che-Lin has two major issues with Tue-Row. The first is that Che-Lin believes Tue-Row will wipe out the existing goblin traditions and culture she represents as the High Priestess in favor of his grand vision of a new, united goblin race. Che-Lin also hates Zii-Zii, seeing her as a bloodthirsty, plundering cur that Tue-Row is willing to abide if Zii-Zii can secure his crown.

Tue-Row, Tue-San, and Che-Lin herself all mention that one of the major ways goblin culture differs from human culture is that goblins prize treachery instead of scorning it. In her second event with Rowan, Che-Lin points out that she considers Tue-Row's betrayal of her to be a brilliant, cunning trick on his part. She's angry that he did it, but her real issue with him stems from what the betrayal led to, rather than the betrayal itself. She sees Tue-Row as too far gone in his delusions to listen to anyone else trying to moderate him, including her. I think she has a point, but how much of a point that is remains to be seen.

A lot hinges on whether you can bury the hatchet between Tue-Row and Che-Lin without outright supporting Che-Lin over Tue-Row. Right now we only have one resolution out of four available - Tue-Row wins, Zii-Zii is neutralized, and Tue-San is fine with things. I can speculate that for Zii-Zii's ending, she wins, Tue-Row is diminished but still dangerous, and Tue-San is furious. For Tue-San's ending, I think Zii-Zii probably ends up dead since she won't be needed for the marriage anymore; Tue-Row is still crowned king, and Tue-San herself is either his queen or queen in all but title.

How Che-Lin fits into those endings, assuming it's still the plan to include her in them in some way if you do her events, is unclear. I'd imagine bad things would happen to her in Zii-Zii's ending and she'd be an advisor to Tue-Row in the others. If the plan for the goblin arc has changed and you can only decide if you're primarily dealing with Tue-Row, Tue-San, Zii-Zii or Che-Lin, then I'd say you're probably closer to mark and Che-Lin will find some way to diminish or neutralize Tue-Row in her ending. Until Rein or whoever gets thrown at the goblin arc next gets more scenes in though, all we can do is speculate.
 
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I would be surprised if there isn't a sex scene with Che-Lin as part of her third event. The second event was already building towards it. So far Zii-Zii and Tue-San have had sex scenes prior to the wedding, with Tue-San getting an additional one during the wedding if you chose her path (I'd expect Zii-Zii will get something similar if you choose to support her over Tue-Row, but who knows when we'll get her wedding resolution scenes). Zii-Zii also gets an additional scene if you support Tue-Row (I think you get the option to help Tue-Row train her regardless of whether or not you did Zii-Zii's subquests, but I haven't tested that). My guess is that Che-Lin will have a sex scene for her third event and possibly another sex scene during the wedding or after it if you choose to support her.

I'm unsure if supporting Che-Lin means not supporting Tue-Row - Unlike Zii-Zii, Che-Lin doesn't have any leverage over Tue-Row and I don't see her having much claim over the rest of the goblins if she decided to shank him at the ceremony. So far it's seemed to me that her route ends with her as a trusted advisor with influence over Tue-Row, but not control over him. Remains to be seen what happens in 2025 once we start getting the rest of the potential wedding resolutions.
I have it as a good guess looking at stuff I should not have, Rein will be mad at me. But that she will probs get Tue-san in trouble with Tue-row and take her position thanks to Rowan if I had to guess. But I really hope Tue-san does not get the fate I foresaw in the stones, that shit would suck. Where is my save every perfect creature that is a goblin option!



Damn right. Finally, more Gobbo fucking.:KEK:
MOAR!
 

Gicoo

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How Che-Lin fits into those endings, assuming it's still the plan to include her in them in some way if you do her events, is unclear. I'd imagine bad things would happen to her in Zii-Zii's ending and she'd be an advisor to Tue-Row in the others. If the plan for the goblin arc has changed and you can only decide if you're primarily dealing with Tue-Row, Tue-San, Zii-Zii or Che-Lin, then I'd say you're probably closer to mark and Che-Lin will find some way to diminish or neutralize Tue-Row in her ending. Until Rein or whoever gets thrown at the goblin arc next gets more scenes in though, all we can do is speculate.
I assume the four endings mirror the four outcomes of the orc arc, as well as the four possible directions the game seems to go (Rowan gets power on his own / warhungry with Andras / scheming with Jezera / sabotaging the twins from the inside).

Tue-Row/Ulcro - Rowan got a "friend" of his as a leader, who much more respects him rather the twins. Ideal if Rowan wants to accumulate power and overthrow the twins and rule himself instead.
Batri/Zii-Zii - War-hungry Goblins that greatly increase the army, Andras will be pleased.
Tue-San/Tarish - Cunningfull woman gets on top, Jezera will be pleased
Delane/Che-Lin - Recruited faction won't obey twins and are unsuitable for war, twins get hindered and are mad at Rowan, ideal if Rowan wants to sabotage the twins and end up relatively good
 

MasterBlaxter

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I assume the four endings mirror the four outcomes of the orc arc, as well as the four possible directions the game seems to go (Rowan gets power on his own / warhungry with Andras / scheming with Jezera / sabotaging the twins from the inside).

Tue-Row/Ulcro - Rowan got a "friend" of his as a leader, who much more respects him rather the twins. Ideal if Rowan wants to accumulate power and overthrow the twins and rule himself instead.
Batri/Zii-Zii - War-hungry Goblins that greatly increase the army, Andras will be pleased.
Tue-San/Tarish - Cunningfull woman gets on top, Jezera will be pleased
Delane/Che-Lin - Recruited faction won't obey twins and are unsuitable for war, twins get hindered and are mad at Rowan, ideal if Rowan wants to sabotage the twins and end up relatively good
I don't think the potential goblin allies map onto the orc outcomes very much. Tue-Row and Tue-San are willing to ally with Rowan over the twins, and I suspect Che-Lin will be as well. Zii-Zii is the only goblin leader that's excited to work with demons. Tue-San dislikes and distrusts Jezera. Che-Lin will probably be a moderating force on Tue-Row if you pick her ending, but I expect he'll still be calling the shots and he's supportive of the twins war because he wants to use it to reclaim the goblin's ancestral lands.

I also don't think there's a Delane equivalent in the goblin arc, if you mean an option to deliberately spoil the twins plans and screw over every potential ally. Seems like Rowan will end up with a goblin ruler that will be indebted to him over the twins regardless of which green ass is warming the throne in Blackholdt by the end of the arc. I'd guess that's intentional, since Jezera never bothers following up on Rowan's activities after the initial meet and greet and that gives him room to get devious on her if he wants to.
 

Gicoo

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I don't think the potential goblin allies map onto the orc outcomes very much.
Ulcro and Tarish aren't to railed up about the demons either, but to keep power, you gotta do it. Only Bartri is high spirited for glory.

Tue-Row and Tue-San are willing to ally with Rowan over the twins
So do Ulcro and Tarish.

Tue-San dislikes and distrusts Jezera.
Because they are the same kind, so she is especially wary. She is projecting. Its not about getting friendly with Andras or Jezera, but sharing their respective mindset about leadership. Which is very indicative in the past storylines - Bartri, Zii-Zii and Jacque vs Tarish, Tue-San and Patricia.

Che-Lin will probably be a moderating force on Tue-Row if you pick her ending, but I expect he'll still be calling the shots and he's supportive of the twins war because he wants to use it to reclaim the goblin's ancestral lands.
We don't know. If Che-Lin still refuses to get with Tue-Row back, then its possible Rowan siding with her means disposing of him and Zii-Zii, then the Goblins unite under Che-Lin, but are peacefull, thus ruining the twins plans to have another army. Which would end up as a comparable result to the Delane plotline.

I'd guess that's intentional, since Jezera never bothers following up on Rowan's activities after the initial meet and greet and that gives him room to get devious on her if he wants to.
Neither die Andras with the orcs. He came with Rowan to the camp, asked for the leader, was told that there are leadership issues and multiple leaders could rise in the near future, so he just noped out and let his servant deal with that mess. Jezera did the exact same thing at the beginning of the goblin arc.
 

Kisama33

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I assume the four endings mirror the four outcomes of the orc arc, as well as the four possible directions the game seems to go (Rowan gets power on his own / warhungry with Andras / scheming with Jezera / sabotaging the twins from the inside).

Tue-Row/Ulcro - Rowan got a "friend" of his as a leader, who much more respects him rather the twins. Ideal if Rowan wants to accumulate power and overthrow the twins and rule himself instead.
Batri/Zii-Zii - War-hungry Goblins that greatly increase the army, Andras will be pleased.
Tue-San/Tarish - Cunningfull woman gets on top, Jezera will be pleased
Delane/Che-Lin - Recruited faction won't obey twins and are unsuitable for war, twins get hindered and are mad at Rowan, ideal if Rowan wants to sabotage the twins and end up relatively good
That's pretty much how I imagined it too, but to be more specific the Tue-San ending would require Tue-Row to be dead at some point forcing her to take the throne as it was meant to be from the start so she can ensure revenge against the responsible(s) for Tue-Row dead while doing her best to fulfill his dream.

But for context the Chen-Lin ending will not result in the same outcome than the Delane ending, going this route will lead to failure in recruiting the Goblin Army, since you only need one, the orc army is more than enough to avoid the "Game Over" scenario. And that doesn't mean that Rowan can't keep some connections with it or even something like a debt where he can make use of it in the future for his own motifs.
 
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TremerePupil

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How do I progress the fey storyline? I already had 3 dreams with the Heartsong but nothing more.
Also how do I get the option to visit X'zaratl after the Astarte war council (currently I have no options at all) and finish the Grudge of the Thorns after talking with the twins?
 
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