At this point I feel like the NTR crusaders are way bigger snowflakes than the anti-NTR crowd. Like yeah the NTR events are optional to play but if someone is discussing the events on the NTR path, negative opinions should not be verboten. How the hell is "Alexia turns into a shitty person by the end of her NTR arc" a spicy hot take? Rowan is already stupid enough but to have him take Alexia back so that he can be NTR'd again in the second arc? It blows my mind that anyone would consider that good writing.
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For me the issue with the NTR path for Alexia is that it's stupid. I mean you are breaking Rowan's relation with Alexia and Alexia is the only leash you have on him. He can absolutely blow the twins' cover if he realizes what is happening
It would have made a lot more sex if Rowan was a willing cuck...
It would have made a lot more sex if Rowan was a willing cuck...
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Fun fact, NTR (Netorare) is not a fetish that is focused on cuckolding, nor is the fetish focused on the cuck much less willfully enjoying being cucked. The same thing applies to Netorase & Netori. Yes, there is always a cuck in every genre of NTR, but again, the focus for the fetish is not the cuck or cuckolding.
The focus of NTR fetish is the slow/ gradual corruption of a Significant Other being Stolen from their Lover (in Netori, the one "stealing" the significant other is the MC/ protagonist)-- which the BEST art form of it in my opinion is when the cuck character has absolutely NO IDEA that his/ her significant other is cheating on him/ her.
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I would argue that she becomes a shitty person because the player has chosen for her to enthrall herself to a shitty person. She is changing herself in a way to appeal more to Andras' tastes. Personally, I would find it to be more strange if she didn't significantly change after over a year of submitting herself to Andras' whims at every opportunity.
And I think it is a bit premature to speculate about what is going to happen in part 2 considering we're still probably still a year or more from the end of part 1.
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I lost the plot, what is the exact criticism about the execution of Alexias NTR? Its established in the prologue that Andras is a cocky bad guy and if Alexia decides to mingle with him, she would change from upstanding wife to a bad girl. And if you don't want that, then simply ignore Andras.
Is there some hypocritical wanting cake and eating it too, as in the interest to have Alexia be involved with Andras but still be faithfull to Rowan or what? Or the usual complaining about NTR being bad, despite it being optional and self-inflicted?
Is there some hypocritical wanting cake and eating it too, as in the interest to have Alexia be involved with Andras but still be faithfull to Rowan or what? Or the usual complaining about NTR being bad, despite it being optional and self-inflicted?
The complaint by NTR fans is that the NTR arc peaked too early in the story. They want Alexia to be romantically attached to Rowan while being sexually dominated by Andras into the second arc as well. So yes plenty of cake eaters. The rebuttal by me is that Alexia by the end of her NTR arc is too far gone for any kind of reconciliation with Rowan. But I guess NTR fans don't like to hear it.
I mean that's exactly my point. Alexia has changed and pretty much abandoned her relationship with Rowan. Any kind of reconciliation arc with Rowan at this point would be forced. It's like everyone wants to hear "NTR bad" when I'm not saying anything like that.
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Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you are saying, and if so I apologize. But it seems like you are upset that after choosing for Alexia submit to Andras and turn to him for emotional support over her husband at every turn for months of in game time, her relationship with Rowan has reach a point that you feel has become irreconcilable. But what did you expect to happen in that scenario?
But what makes you so certain there will be a forced reconciliation? Personally I fully believe that when the full story is done there will be multiple endings based on the player's choices, and in at least one of those ending Rowan and Alexia will no longer be together.
Even if there is a reconciliation it will probably a several scene long optional arc or you'll have the option to continue on the Andras sex slave path. If that is the case, if you find her actions utterly unforgivable the just don't choose to reconcile. But just because you would be utterly unwilling to forgive her doesn't mean that other player's feel the same. some players might just enjoy being cucks, some players might just have a very forgiving nature, some players might shrug and say Rowan cheated way more so it's a wash, some players my consider how little Rowan know about what she has done and decide that it would in character for him to forgive based on his limited information.
But what makes you so certain there will be a forced reconciliation? Personally I fully believe that when the full story is done there will be multiple endings based on the player's choices, and in at least one of those ending Rowan and Alexia will no longer be together.
Even if there is a reconciliation it will probably a several scene long optional arc or you'll have the option to continue on the Andras sex slave path. If that is the case, if you find her actions utterly unforgivable the just don't choose to reconcile. But just because you would be utterly unwilling to forgive her doesn't mean that other player's feel the same. some players might just enjoy being cucks, some players might just have a very forgiving nature, some players might shrug and say Rowan cheated way more so it's a wash, some players my consider how little Rowan know about what she has done and decide that it would in character for him to forgive based on his limited information.
No I am not upset about Alexia's character development on the NTR path. I was specifically responding to someone who was upset that the NTR path peaked already and wanted a reconciliation of Alexia & Rowan's relationship so that the NTR could continue in the second arc. Like go back and read the posts I replied to. I find a scenario where they reconcile and start the NTR again just to fuel the NTR fetishists ridiculous. At that point Rowan is too stupid to live. I'd have to drop the game entirely and that would suck since I have paid more for this game (patreon and steam) than any other game in my Steam library.
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okay Sorry for the mistake. Though in that case, just let other people have their unrealistic fantasies. As long as the content is optional then who cares.
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After a long time, 2 years maybe, i started playing again.
New Start and for now at week 68.
Rowan have a Harem, if there is a femdom option i let him submit, if not i let him dominate if there is the option.
Alexia submit to anything and i corrupt her as much as i can.
Rowan shares his Pet Slave Liurial with Alexia
Quest Grundge of Thorns
After i discuss with the twins to side with Ygriss the dragon ogress or Isdruel
i can select "Rowan decides to forge an alliance with Isdruel" or "Leave the two to sort out their differences"
but after that nothing, is it a bug?
And how to get the Sex Scene with Ygriss the dragon ogress ?
Help please, it is frustrating.
New Start and for now at week 68.
Rowan have a Harem, if there is a femdom option i let him submit, if not i let him dominate if there is the option.
Alexia submit to anything and i corrupt her as much as i can.
Rowan shares his Pet Slave Liurial with Alexia
Quest Grundge of Thorns
After i discuss with the twins to side with Ygriss the dragon ogress or Isdruel
i can select "Rowan decides to forge an alliance with Isdruel" or "Leave the two to sort out their differences"
but after that nothing, is it a bug?
And how to get the Sex Scene with Ygriss the dragon ogress ?
Help please, it is frustrating.
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Absolutely not /astarte battles all routes,che Lin arc, epilogue, restadel battle updated, Andras last arc,jez arc,fey arc,small portal event,xzartel event this things still not completed so I hope they complete this in end of 2025 or beginning of 2026 so that answer your question
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That quest is still not fully implemented
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i read documents of beginning of 2024 they say they are going to implement that so hope they complete act 1 in beginning of 2026
From my point of view, I am not saying what Alexia is doing doesn't make sense. Alexia's arc is perfectly reasonable. What I don't understand is Andras. Alexia is Rowan's leash and by the end of the Act 1 NTR Arc, that leash seems very badly frayed. It's just that they are risking losing Rowan over a whim with Alexia. Unless of course in Act 2 Alexia becomes a full on antagonist to Rowan who doesn't know the extent of her collusion with Andras and start manipulating him at her new master's command.
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While I agree that it is a terrible idea for Andras to do this. I think it does entirely fit his character. The guy is a twisted ball of toxic alpha male and daddy issues. He seems like has a deep rooted need to prove he is more of a man than the guy who killed his daddy (actually just one of the guys who happened to be nearby when his daddy was killed, but Rowan is the target that he has available).
Jezera is also willing to risk the whole operation by stealing Alexia for the sole reason that she feels the need to play her little games. Look at me, not only can I manipulate his wife away, but I can do it right under his nose without him expecting a thing. And I'm so tricky and clever a that he will never ever find out. It's not like any of my plans ever don't turn out perfectly.
The game is pretty explicit that the twin's generally have a problem with self sabotage. In fact is seems to be a major reason why the forces of chaos haven't been able to secure more than a temporary victory. They just don't have the discipline to not undermine their own efforts in the long term. Hence why they needed Rowan in the first place.
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Damn cant get enough of Alexia ntr paths. Great job man keep it up 
Anyway
If the updates are every second month, will that mean it will be end of january or will it be more cos of the big holidays?
Anyway
If the updates are every second month, will that mean it will be end of january or will it be more cos of the big holidays?
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I hope all this ain't aimed at me and my original comment. Because I'm not some NTR fan, I'm not upset, nor was my comment supposed to be taken literal. It seems like you're lumping a whole bunch of people up with me for some reason.
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Thank you
Then best would be i let this Quest open for now...
I have read some where that there is a sex scene with Ygrisse but i can´t find it, can you help with that too ?
Thanks grego
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