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prodigy , you ever find a good artists that bills 100$ dollars a piece, meets deadlines and is consistent, you send him our way, okay?
Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.08] [Vénus Noire]
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Your entire argument was based on your perceived understanding of our production costs. You can't "multiply by three" and get over it.So lets multiple that number by 2, oh hell leds do it by 3! Still there is plenty left. And lets add, that writing dirty cheap. But that is issue with such project, there is no way to tell if someone is honest or not. I do not want to agitate you, it just envy speaking that in my opinion(reasoning) you work for 3 months and then lay down for rest of a year
I am telling you that you do not understand how much money it costs to make a game, what elements of production are required, and where costs are raised and lowered.
SoC works on Razer thin margins. If you tallied total income vs total spent on the game over time, it's actually still in the red (though slowly making its way to the black).
And how do you know I'm not lying. Simple. We release quality sized releases every single month. Month in. Month out. Few H-games can match SoC in consistent high quality releases. This is because the boss runs a professional staff that costs money to hire while only keeping incredibly lean profits.
...You really think 21,00 a year would be fair compensation for this work? That's literally below the poverty threshold where I live, setting aside the fact that that doesn't even count the cut that Patreon takes of the money or the fact that more than one person works on the project, let alone any of the other expenses.I do not want to agitate you, it just envy speaking that in my opinion(reasoning) you work for 3 months and then lay down for rest of a year
I think your envy is unwarranted here, to put it politely.
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Then I was wrong. If you are saying that it is professional project. I made bad assumption and I have extrapolated from there. I woudn't guss that somone build up business on such risky endeavour. Let's be straight, patreon is a shithole, not secure income and they can change policy on go. Then you left without funding with bills to pay.
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Yes and no?
If something dumb happened with Patreon, would it be bad for us? Yes. For sure.
But, we can scale up or scale down production as nessacery. If we were making 1K on some other platform the game would still be in development.
If we somehow were making 20K a month, we'd only ramp up production more. The nice part about a game like Seeds of Chaos is that there really is few upper limits for what we could do if we had more funding. Every dollar really does improve the game.
So there's some uncertainty, but it's not as bad as you think. Production costs are modulated to income for the game.
If something dumb happened with Patreon, would it be bad for us? Yes. For sure.
But, we can scale up or scale down production as nessacery. If we were making 1K on some other platform the game would still be in development.
If we somehow were making 20K a month, we'd only ramp up production more. The nice part about a game like Seeds of Chaos is that there really is few upper limits for what we could do if we had more funding. Every dollar really does improve the game.
So there's some uncertainty, but it's not as bad as you think. Production costs are modulated to income for the game.
Still, It would be worthwhile to secure funding beforehand. Monthly funding is appealing to small teams, but stigma* that patron brings and effect on consumer trust is not worth it in longer run. Anyway I do not want to stretch it out, good luck with your project.
*A lot of abandoned project, alligated milking ect.
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Please inform me where is the bank that gives million dollar business loans for boner games? I must go to it immediately.
Not long ago there was porn game funded on kicksater they got something over milion.
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Wait, you feel Patreon has a stigma associated with it (I agree), but you point to Kickstarter as a good alternative? Kickstarter has just as bad a stigma associated with it, if not worse since people pay upfront and oftentimes get absolutely nothing when promises aren't kept...
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...You're aware that the team who made the Subverse kickstarter made it partially using money they saved up from their former 10K Patreon page, right? Studio FOW aren't some Anti-Patreon firebrands. They just lost access to the platform.
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Holy shit, I am on a porn piracy website defending our choice to receive payment for the fetish porn game I work on. How did this become my life?
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Well then, It looks like I just narrowly avoided some weird drama.
And I am trying to sell wooden spoons, boxes, clubs, cudgels, miniature wooden mouses, miniature wooden cheese, miniature birds and miscellaneous historical projectiles to make money so that I can eventually become a SOC patron... So I can't really judge.
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Yeah sure, give me some time to heal up my hand and I can make one. I chiseled my hand doing the bowl of an oak spoon a few days ago. To those un-accustomed to woods, Oak is fairly hard.
I'll also probably try my hand at a Wolf. Because it's in the Orciad scene. I remember reading that and going "Fuck yeah, Orcish wood carver."
The good thing is, I can find out exactly what chisel I used on my other spoons by comparing the size of my wound to the chisels.
Have you considered a career as a medieval monk slash murder detective?The good thing is, I can find out exactly what chisel I used on my other spoons by comparing the size of my wound to the chisels.
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I'd be a terrible monk... me with a Tonsure? that is something the world does not deserve to see...Have you considered a career as a medieval monk slash murder detective?
I would also be a bad detective. I can't even find the pickles in the fridge, even if they are right in front of me.
And in your opinion it worked for them or not?
I wonder from where all your followers came from. Probably from well placed advertisement in morning paper
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Tonsure is a great word, isn't it? I remember, as a much younger man, reading Meyrink's Walpurgisnacht (or perhaps it was Der Golem, my memory isn't what it was), and wondering what the fuck one was.