Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.08] [Vénus Noire]

[Fleep]

Thanks for the reply. It is very strange that it is impossible to completely prevent the betrayal of his wife . There is a scale of relationships , but the wife will still betray several times .

You CAN prevent the wife from cheating on you 100%. What's up to you is how much you as a player cheat on her. That's the NTR the previous post was referring to.

 

[MagicSlay]

You CAN prevent the wife from cheating on you 100%. What's up to you is how much you as a player cheat on her. That's the NTR the previous post was referring to.

Tbh though, the NTR option the game gives you is a red herring. The game does nothing to prevent the husband from cheating on his wife which is still NTR. Sure it still gives you that option via dialogue but a red herring nonetheless as many factors still require to have some knowledge, check passings, and ofc some luck on choosing the right choice. So you're entirely correct. As irritating it is to be "Well I can do whatever I want." then do exactly what you prevent your wife from doing... You should have no reason to complain about NTR as it is a coin afterall.

 

[kartolas]

Tbh though, the NTR option the game gives you is a red herring. The game does nothing to prevent the husband from cheating on his wife which is still NTR. Sure it still gives you that option via dialogue but a red herring nonetheless as many factors still require to have some knowledge, check passings, and ofc some luck on choosing the right choice. So you're entirely correct. As irritating it is to be "Well I can do whatever I want." then do exactly what you prevent your wife from doing... You should have no reason to complain about NTR as it is a coin afterall.

Nothing to do with luck if you know what the choices give by using the universal renpy tool. As I said, I'm on week 64 and the wife hasn't cheated on me and neither did I in my current playthrough, UNLESS it happens after week 64. Not that I care, otherwise I had disabled the NTR at start.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

Nothing to do with luck if you know what the choices give by using the universal renpy tool. As I said, I'm on week 64 and the wife hasn't cheated on me and neither did I in my current playthrough, UNLESS it happens after week 64. Not that I care, otherwise I had disabled the NTR at start.

If u disable NTR, then it's probably that she NTR MC and the game skip the scene for ya, can happen if MC doesn't pass some checks while interacting with Andrass demandings

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Neither the MC nor his wife have to cheat in any circumstance. If someone you don't want to have sex with asks, just say no.

Honestly the developer didn't really even need to include the "No NTR" option at all. Every sex scene is optional and they are well telegraphed before you make you choices. There are only two reasons for people to complain about NTR in this game. Either they are just clicking through the options with out reading any of the text, or they got tempted and regretted their choice in their post-nut clarity.

For being a castle full of evil demons they seem to be pretty big on consent.

 

[kartolas]

If u disable NTR, then it's probably that she NTR MC and the game skip the scene for ya, can happen if MC doesn't pass some checks while interacting with Andrass demandings

My NTR is enabled and Andras didn't touched her, I passed the check. Also, I pretty much remember on a previous PT that even if you fail the check, you take a beating but he doesn't touch her.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

Neither the MC nor his wife have to cheat in any circumstance. If someone you don't want to have sex with asks, just say no.

Honestly the developer didn't really even need to include the "No NTR" option at all. Every sex scene is optional and they are well telegraphed before you make you choices. There are only two reasons for people to complain about NTR in this game. Either they are just clicking through the options with out reading any of the text, or they got tempted and regretted their choice in their post-nut clarity.

For being a castle full of evil demons they seem to be pretty big on consent.

Pal if MC say no to work with them it's game over, that's consensual?...

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

My NTR is enabled and Andras didn't touched her, I passed the check.

Damn your luck pal

 

[diebesgrab]

If u disable NTR, then it's probably that she NTR MC and the game skip the scene for ya, can happen if MC doesn't pass some checks while interacting with Andrass demandings

Very nearly every sex scene involving Rowan and Alexia, and this includes every single NTR scene, is avoidable. The choices for these are fairly well telegraphed. None of them rely on RNG.

 

[kartolas]

Damn your luck pal

Maybe a bit of luck but also 10 points in combat. Passed check it at first try as the check is 13 if I remember correctly.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

Very nearly every sex scene involving Rowan and Alexia, and this includes every single NTR scene, is avoidable. The choices for these are fairly well telegraphed. None of them rely on RNG.

Not all of them, i remember an scene with Andrass when he defy MC, if the status check don't pass he do what he wants, if that random scene happen early when MC sucks at his status there is nothing you can do.

 

[kartolas]

Very nearly every sex scene involving Rowan and Alexia, and this includes every single NTR scene, is avoidable. The choices for these are fairly well telegraphed. None of them rely on RNG.

Yep, so far I completely agree.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

If u disable NTR, then it's probably that she NTR MC and the game skip the scene for ya, can happen if MC doesn't pass some checks while interacting with Andrass demandings

Not all of them, i remember an scene with Andrass when he defy MC, if the status check don't pass he do what he wants, if that random scene happen early when MC sucks at his status there is nothing you can do.

The only scene I can think of that you might be describing is

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So if you don't want to be a cuck then just don't be a cuck.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

So if you don't want to be a cuck then just don't be a cuck.

Can you expand?. As far in that scene the only way to don't NTR in any way is win over Andrass if that happens too early the chance is too low to avoid it.

 

[kartolas]

Can you expand?. As far in that scene the only way to don't NTR in any way is win over Andrass if that happens too early the chance is too low to avoid it.

Mate even if you loose, he won't touch her.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

Mate even if you loose, he won't touch her.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Pal if MC say no to work with them it's game over, that's consensual?...

Friend, did you see the ? It was a joke, they're evil demons leading an army of monsters. They do a lot of rape and killing, clearly they don't actually give a fuck about consent. I just think it is funny that despite all their bluster they respect the player when you say no.

Can you expand?. As far in that scene the only way to don't NTR in any way is win over Andrass if that happens too early the chance is too low to avoid it.

I just loaded the game to verify the scene. I always play NTR turned on even when doing a non NTR run. Failed both checks, still no NTR.

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[Omegaroll]

I'm currently playing (avoiding all NTR with NTR turned on because muh choice) and yeah, I can also confirm you can avoid it 100% of the time.

Heck, if you're REALLY uncomfortable, you can skip a good chunk of random "weekly" NTR lead-up scenes by simply reloading the save as you'll probably get a different scene then.

Friend, did you see the ? It was a joke, they're evil demons leading an army of monsters. They do a lot of rape and killing, clearly they don't actually give a fuck about consent. I just think it is funny that despite all their bluster they respect the player when you say no.

Good thing they do because I'd legit have stopped playing during the 1st Andras scene after his intro (which is what I expected) lmao.

Unrelated to the above discussion but: The art is good regardless and I enjoy Rowan x Alexia/Cla-Min/Delane H-scenes but I think the build-up to most scenes is kind of meh...

However, I just got to Shaya's last quest (so far) and the build-up to that blows every other scene out of the water for now, even though I wish there was a choice for Rowan to say something different there instead of what he says to console her. I thought Shaya's design was great before (and her scenes were good) but I was honestly more invested in the mystery than in the character prior to this. The writing there was *chef's kiss*. Her heavy ties to Jezera stop her from becoming one of my favorites but I gotta say I'm sort of invested now. Color me impressed.

 

[Rein]

If u disable NTR, then it's probably that she NTR MC and the game skip the scene for ya, can happen if MC doesn't pass some checks while interacting with Andrass demandings

That is a very small futa content compared to others

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A lot of things are worth the effort, but there's only so many hours in the day.

Alternative gender Andras would be much, much, much MUCH more work than you think it will be. Not that I wouldn't mind railing her ass if that was the case.

You must content yourself with X'zaratl, I'm afraid.

 

[T51bwinterized]

So I wanted to find out if it is possible to avoid NTR and not cut or disable .

In a sense... you can "avoid" with luck (because mechanics earlier can be a bitch) to MC's wife have NTR interactions... But isn't possible to avoid MC NTR his wife at least 1 time in the entire game... Is that enough NTR vanilla to make you happy?.

Is there any animation in game or some kind of animation mod?

A few handfuls, unfortunately.

From what I can tell, not in the normal sense. But from what I can tell with choices, yes? There is a relationship status with Alexia and can go up or down with the choices you make. Usually it's being extremely rude to her and dismissing her thoughts and hopes. Corruption might also have an influence of the status also.

Thanks for the reply. It is very strange that it is impossible to completely prevent the betrayal of his wife . There is a scale of relationships , but the wife will still betray several times .

What do you mean with "that it is impossible to completely prevent the betrayal of his wife"? When does that happen? I'm on week 64 or 65 and so far there is no evidence that she betrayed the MC.

You CAN prevent the wife from cheating on you 100%. What's up to you is how much you as a player cheat on her. That's the NTR the previous post was referring to.

Tbh though, the NTR option the game gives you is a red herring. The game does nothing to prevent the husband from cheating on his wife which is still NTR. Sure it still gives you that option via dialogue but a red herring nonetheless as many factors still require to have some knowledge, check passings, and ofc some luck on choosing the right choice. So you're entirely correct. As irritating it is to be "Well I can do whatever I want." then do exactly what you prevent your wife from doing... You should have no reason to complain about NTR as it is a coin afterall.

If u disable NTR, then it's probably that she NTR MC and the game skip the scene for ya, can happen if MC doesn't pass some checks while interacting with Andrass demandings

Very nearly every sex scene involving Rowan and Alexia, and this includes every single NTR scene, is avoidable. The choices for these are fairly well telegraphed. None of them rely on RNG.

Not all of them, i remember an scene with Andrass when he defy MC, if the status check don't pass he do what he wants, if that random scene happen early when MC sucks at his status there is nothing you can do.

Yeah. There is an NTR "switch" at the start of the game. If you select to turn it off, no NTR occurs either on-screen or off screen. If you make the choices for Alexia not to sleep with Andras (Via Switch or In-Game Choices) she never canonically sleeps with him.

The Andras event in question does not result in automatic NTR, regardless of wether or not the roll works. It's probably a bit too NTR tinged regardless.

Yes, the NTR switch only turns off only Alexia sleeping around and not Rowan sleeping around. The reason the switch exists is that there's a particularly vocal anti-NTR crowd and we want an easy "out" for them, just because there's too many cases of someone not reading and getting pissed off. But, like all material in the game, Rowan sleeping with people besides Alexia is almost entirely optional, and can be avoided in most cases.

That said, there are a few scene where Rowan sleeps with someone else that aren't entirely optional at this point. But, that's either a result of game design problems we hope to fix, or it's the result of some of the elements of Rastedel. Both are intended to be corrected before finished versions, to give you more leeway for a "Faithful Rowan" playthrough. Which we do desire to support, but it's not a 100% priority atm.

That is a very small futa content compared to others

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That would actually be extremely difficult for a lot of reasons. A big one is that Futas are kind of rare in the setting and normally demonic in origin. This doesn't fit Rowan's characterization at all. So to support it we'd have to rewrite a lot.

As a general rule, most games with highly customizeable protaganists lack clear history and are in settings where gender distinction in sexual matters is not so uncommon. Or else they have to add extensive multi-state to account for it.

Seeds of Chaos is a game that started from the idea of "What happens to a hero of a story after the story is over?" We allow players a wide array of ways to Play Rowan and try to acount for them as best we can. But, it just doesn't support very extensive customization, and it can't without exponential workload increases.

However, I just got to Shaya's last quest (so far) and the build-up to that blows every other scene out of the water for now, even though I wish there was a choice for Rowan to say something different there instead of what he says to console her. I thought Shaya's design was great before (and her scenes were good) but I was honestly more invested in the mystery than in the character prior to this. The writing there was *chef's kiss*. Her heavy ties to Jezera stop her from becoming one of my favorites but I gotta say I'm sort of invested now. Color me impressed.

As Shaya's new writer thanks for the compliment. I wanted to take a charachter who lacked clear story role and do something with her I thought would get people invested, and would play to the natural intrigue of the charachter.

As for why he doesn't have more ways of persuading her. Maybe I'll take a look at it at some point, but that scene is basically a marathon of multi-state that had to acount for dozens of clues. Shit was rough. So going even harder on Rowan dialogue variance wasn't in the cards.