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Lorenh80

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But is ok...Is not the end of the world.
I understand that put even one strong, interesting, ambitious, maculine gay character in a game written for straight guys can be destructive for they'r fragile ego, and lead them to stop all toghether the patron support. ;)
 

diebesgrab

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But is ok...Is not the end of the world.
I understand that put even one strong, interesting, ambitious, maculine gay character in a game written for straight guys can be destructive for they'r fragile ego, and lead them to stop all toghether the patron support. ;)
I mean, Greyhide’s a bit passive (not in bed), and I’m not sure how ambitious Skordred is, but I’d say both of them could probably crush Rowan’s head in one hand if they wanted to.

Not to mention that you basically just described Andras, other than the fact that he’s bi. Of course he doesn’t really see Rowan as a romantic partner so much as a fleshlight.
 

perles75

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Not Stereotyped?? Oh c'mon... Thin, femminim, submissive, sex driven. The elf girl have more balls then him :)
in the sex scenes he's rather stereotyped but his backstory is rather interesting and not too usual; he's also active and driven, far from the damsel in distress-slash-hyperdependent type that those kinds of characters usually are, that's what I meant when I said it's not too much of a cliché as a character.
My real problem with him is that I can't stop not seeing Tina Fey's face in his drawing, so that puts me out of the fantasy and turns me off quite a bit :ROFLMAO:

Not to mention that you basically just described Andras, other than the fact that he’s bi. Of course he doesn’t really see Rowan as a romantic partner so much as a fleshlight.
Andras/Rowan has among the best humiliation scenes of the whole game though :D
 
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Lorenh80

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I mean, Greyhide’s a bit passive (not in bed), and I’m not sure how ambitious Skordred is, but I’d say both of them could probably crush Rowan’s head in one hand if they wanted to.

Not to mention that you basically just described Andras, other than the fact that he’s bi. Of course he doesn’t really see Rowan as a romantic partner so much as a fleshlight.
They are not Gay character and the homosexual scene they have are only a deviation from the
I mean, Greyhide’s a bit passive (not in bed), and I’m not sure how ambitious Skordred is, but I’d say both of them could probably crush Rowan’s head in one hand if they wanted to.

Not to mention that you basically just described Andras, other than the fact that he’s bi. Of course he doesn’t really see Rowan as a romantic partner so much as a fleshlight.
Andras is not Bi. In all his Line he only talk about " sexy girl" he just use fuck the MC, as a method of submission.
 

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They are not Gay character and the homosexual scene they have are only a deviation from the

Andras is not Bi. In all his Line he only talk about " sexy girl" he just use fuck the MC, as a method of submission.
The best Bi male character in the game is Jacques- but he has no sexual content

It's a little difficult to think about these characters as someone only interested in women- so I'm just imagining them all gender-bent.

-Skodred would be amazing. I find the route really interesting- and a short stack dwarf with an abnormally hot bits would be lit. I also have a bit of thing for artists- and that contrast of him being an artist juxtaposed with him being a Chaos goon is pretty interesting.
-Alain would probably be my second favorite- gotta love optimistic blonde knight chicks.
-Greyhide is definitely a good option with gay content- as long as you don't mind reverse size play.
-Gender-bent draith would be super hot- but he is a little too slutty / crazy for my tastes. He does have the most interesting plot narrative out of the gay arcs though.
-Andras is trash no matter what gender he is

Maybe in the future you will enjoy that big doggo fae guy- he seems decidedly gay and he is very masculine, but not an absolute toss like Andras.
 
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Even though I am not personally aroused by the gay content, I do agree that some more options for the fans of male-on-male action wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. It obviously has its fans, but an argument could also be made that it does far more to accommodate their taste than the vast majority of games on this site. I would encourage people to play for themselves and judge for themselves if the content is worthwhile. The sad truth is that you can't please everyone.
 
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diebesgrab

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They are not Gay character and the homosexual scene they have are only a deviation from the

Andras is not Bi. In all his Line he only talk about " sexy girl" he just use fuck the MC, as a method of submission.
I’m pretty sure Skordred shows zero interest in women, and Greyhide absolutely has Rowan specific scenes, not just threesomes. Andras is most interested in women, but will fuck anything that moves and isn’t hideous. The fact that he fucks Rowan to show his dominance is true, but he does this with women, too—fucking is 100% a power play for him, it doesn’t matter with whom (or what). Having a preference for one gender doesn’t make you straight if you’re still interested in both.
 

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They are not Gay character and the homosexual scene they have are only a deviation from the

Andras is not Bi. In all his Line he only talk about " sexy girl" he just use fuck the MC, as a method of submission.
Really, Andras isn't bisexual? Then the scenes of Alexia waitching him fuck Draith must have been a figment of my imagination. Andras is a bisexual that has a preference for women based on what we've seen of him so far, but he's still up for fucking guys.
 

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Lorenh80, I'm not going to try to argue what is and isn't an stereotype, or who is gay enough to count. I'm not gay so its not my place. But I do feel the need to point out you are arguing an awful lot about an game you have already decided that you are not interested in. Anyone hanging out on this thread is bound to be a big fan of the game, so it is only to be expected that they would try to defend it from criticism. No one is trying to say that you are wrong for wanting the type of content that you want, they are just defending characters that they like. But there is no reason for you to expend so much energy and attention on something that you don't like. This time and effort would be better spent finding something that you do enjoy.
 
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perles75

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I also think that Andras is bisexual, or pansexual -it's a demon after all, and the conventional human categories make little sense for him.
As a side note, all his relationships with women are also based on domination and humiliation, it's just how he is.

This is, incidentally, valid for most non-human characters. We can't pretend that demons or fairies or whatever have the same sexual conformity of humans. Skordred for example seems to have a rather utilitarian approach to sex, but maybe that's how his race works. And so on and so on.
 
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I'd say Andras' sexuality is dominance. There are several cases were Andras has sex with Rowan without it being public; his focus is not just humiliating Rowan (though he loves that), it's more about him getting to dominate someone.
 

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I'd say Andras' sexuality is dominance. There are several cases were Andras has sex with Rowan without it being public; his focus is not just humiliating Rowan (though he loves that), it's more about him getting to dominate someone.
I do agree with the assessment, but when does Andras have sex with Rowan without being public? I can remember the blowjob at the beginning (public), the scene in the dungeon in front of the prisoners (public), the threesome with Batri the orc (not public but still with someone else), the scene in the arena (basically public)... and then?
He does, though, have sex with Draith privately (as Alexia can attest).
 

Lorenh80

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Lorenh80, I'm not going to try to argue what is and isn't an stereotype, or who is gay enough to count. I'm not gay so its not my place. But I do feel the need to point out you are arguing an awful lot about an game you have already decided that you are not interested in. Anyone hanging out on this thread is bound to be a big fan of the game, so it is only to be expected that they would try to defend it from criticism. No one is trying to say that you are wrong for wanting the type of content that you want, they are just defending characters that they like. But there is no reason for you to expend so much energy and attention on something that you don't like. This time and effort would be better spent finding something that you do enjoy.
Dude chill i'm joking XD
And btw im not "complaing" im just pointing out my tough on the game... i'm not allowed to do ? and ffrom what i see my comments have starded an interesding debate about what the paople this of the sexual inclination of the characters in the game
 
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Lorenh80

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I don't think Andras is Bi, because there is no attraction towards the protagonist. (Or any other male character)he made sex whit him for others purpose. While he has demonstrated over and over again his sexual interest towards many of the female characters. For the kind of character he is, if this interest existed he certainly wouldn't keep it for himself.
 

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I don't think Andras is Bi, because there is no attraction towards the protagonist. (Or any other male character)he made sex whit him for others purpose. While he has demonstrated over and over again his sexual interest towards many of the female characters. For the kind of character he is, if this interest existed he certainly wouldn't keep it for himself.
Are you meaning that cis-hetero patriarchal chauvinist alpha males can fuck other males for the purpose of being in the dominant role without being considered gay nor bisexual?... Definitely, those ideas of gender are doing mess in the people's mind :ROFLMAO:
 

Jynx_lucky_j

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Dude chill i'm joking XD
And btw im not "complaing" im just pointing out my tough on the game... i'm not allowed to do ? and ffrom what i see my comments have starded an interesding debate about what the paople this of the sexual inclination of the characters in the game
In that case I apologize for misinterpreting your intent. As we all know tone can sometimes be difficult to pick up tone through text.

With that in mind my interpretation of Andras is that he has two sexual modes. First is "I'm horny, who is the most attractive person nearby with a soft hole?" In this mode all he really cares about is getting his rocks off and he doesn't want to work too hard for it. The second is domination mode, which of course is when he uses sex in order to assert his dominance over others.
As for how he relates to Alexia, I think his interest in her is primarily part of his attempts to dominate Rowan. Don't get me wrong I'm sure he finds her sexually attractive, but no more than any particularly attractive village girl. Alexia, apart from her connection to Rowan, simply isn't that special at this time. With a snap of his fingers he could send his orcs to raid a village and capture him a dozen of women just like her. Having sex with her is another way in which he can assert his dominance over Rowan, but he also can't just take her because they still need Rowans willing cooperation. But if he can woo her away from Rowan willingly then Andras can prove he is the "better man" and has a nasty surprise to reveal to Rowan at an appropriately devastating moment. It not that he is more into her than Rowan, rather she is a piece in his domination games against Rowan.

To jump back a moment to you initial question about meaningful relationships. Keep in mind that this isn't a game about building relationships, instead it is a game about corruption and whether you will succumb or resist. Even among the female characters there aren't many "meaningful" relationships to be found. Rowan and Alexia are the only good people in the castle (at least they are good at the start). Most of the castle's residents are evil, even the ones that are nice to you. And few that aren't outright evil are still at least indifferent towards evil. At least half of the named denizens are actively trying to control or dominate you in their own ways. So it likely isn't a great idea to form a romantic relationship with any of them. But then again...some of them are awfully tempting... :cautious:
 
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I don't think Andras is Bi, because there is no attraction towards the protagonist. (Or any other male character)he made sex whit him for others purpose. While he has demonstrated over and over again his sexual interest towards many of the female characters. For the kind of character he is, if this interest existed he certainly wouldn't keep it for himself.
So basically what you're saying is that Andras is asexual because he fucks people because he enjoys the dominance and control instead of the physical traits of his partners.

Jesus.

He's a demon who likes sex, he's not the Joker trying to manipulate Harley Quinn.
 
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Jynx_lucky_j

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So basically what you're saying is that Andras is asexual because he fucks people because he enjoys the dominance and control instead of the physical traits of his partners.

Jesus.

He's a demon who likes sex, he's not the Joker trying to manipulate Harley Quinn.
I'm pretty sure what he is trying to say is that Andras is strait and only has sex with men for the purpose of asserting dominance.
 
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So basically what you're saying is that Andras is asexual because he fucks people because he enjoys the dominance and control instead of the physical traits of his partners.

Jesus.

He's a demon who likes sex, he's not the Joker trying to manipulate Harley Quinn.
Andras have scenes were he demands sex relieve because he's horny... As Jynx_lucky_j state:
I'm pretty sure what he is trying to say is that Andras is strait and only has sex with men for the purpose of asserting dominance.
Because of that i wrote much before in response to Lorenh80
Are you meaning that cis-hetero patriarchal chauvinist alpha males can fuck other males for the purpose of being in the dominant role without being considered gay nor bisexual?... Definitely, those ideas of gender are doing mess in the people's mind :ROFLMAO:
 
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