That is because the only ending available for now is being their servant, the path where you take control and authority over the twins or the one where you sabotage their effort are still in development. If you want a ¨happy ending¨ where you can save Rowan humanity, you will have to wait.
Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]
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and their is another path named mitigation where u give twin victory but as well as minimizing damage to rosarian forces in previous ver mitigation option is not their so i dont know if they are going to work on that
See, I don't think the Overlord ending to Astarte amounts to anything because we've been told that there will be very little changes to Rastedel. So the twins will still sack the city and completely ignore you.
no there will be one change to rastadel. and thats IF orcs respect you thay ill obey your order about not sacking city over twins. devs also said that it will have interesting consequnces
Oh damn. Did not know that. Well that changes a lot.
Ah yes, the orcs will join human armies versus twins because i helped them getyou can save warden or get other ally in rastadel and if you chose patricia you will bascily control it
get orcs leader indebted to you same with goblins so that 2 army's there
get fey support and even proposal that maybe deposing twins wont be that bad
get minotaur on your side
get liruel and helyana
get delanaon your side, save Saintes's(one of hero's )
get chilona be on your side. she can literally can say that she dose not give fuck if you want to kill twins
get succubus spy and one of demons on your side
get favour of Karnas cult
get favour with zanim
get shagoth or wood spirit in your retinue(your personal troops ) plus get another orc chieftain in your retinue gorza blood axe.
but hey not all of us can succeed in things
also Astarte war where you take control and try to sabotage twins is currently in works
the evil lich fey who use this conflict as a way to get more power and destroy whitescar's faction will just let humans live in peace after deposing the twins, they will definietly not try to enslave everyone and use them as fuel for immortality;
Karnas cult will stay on your side and help reestablish peace and order in the kingdom.
Of all the npcs you help and befriend and even get in your debt.. maybe one or two have any connection and slight possibility to be able to gather armies and coordinate against the twins? or do you actually think Greyhide is gonna get minotaurs on our side? Liurial will get elf armies? Not to mention Rowan's "retinue" means nothing against not only demon's armies but the twins themselves - they can be killed without much effort at any time.
Many other npcs (like Clionha) act out of pure self interest and the only way they would join you vs twins is if you already had the upper hand, or at least a chance at upper hand - and since throughout act 1 you do not get a single whiff of being able to oppose them, there is no reason to count them as allies and (imho) little reason to count them as even potential allies.
All those personal connections while good to have - with this version of the game - mean kind of nothing if you want to destroy demons & co and reestablish peace among human lands.
That's not really this game though? It's not the premise of the game. Nowhere in the marketing material of the game is it really seen as an option. Maybe you will get to collapse the twins' forces late in the game for that.
And as has been said before and should be said again; if you are really a good person, you don't leave the prison. At best, you survive to meet a bad end in the early weeks because you never move against Raeve.
There are 3 main path in game.
servant where you serve twins.
conqueror where you take power from twins and you personally rule. all of above examples help in that case
sabotage. which wont end well for you but even then you have some choices.
Best path for sabotage currently is Wardern route. you manage to evacuate most of knights and nobles from rastadel and even save high prises. Plus leave orcs in there weakest position
we dont have goblins outcomes in game yet but i think che lin path will also be very good on that one as she dose not really want expansion and most likely could be convinced to go against twins and not start war against humans. maybe even ally with them i have not seen all events so i may be wrong but these is my gut feeling.
liruel, greyhide helyana and white scar all are good ally that wont have any problem on these path
forest fey will also be good ally as she dose not give shit about twins and there ambitions same with shagoth
plus few more small things in random encounters
BUT you are right main thing if you want to have army's to oppose twins as humans IS wardens route. its kind of hard to get route i hope you know about it
and new upcoming sabotage Astarte battle
the warden path is nothing but a red hearing trap, at least in my opinion, the ones that get away are the nobles who let the situation get as bad as it got. A Dying old fool in the form of Warden himself and yes, the high priestess, of all those maybe she has a minor chance of being able to change something but i doubt it will be significant.
That is not a path of sabotage, is a path of being naive and getting your teeth kicked in by the game going "There is no heroic path, the people in power are mostly corrupt , incompetent or both and trying to follow this paths end in only pain". Rowan tries to do the obvious "good" thing in warning Werden and it goes as well as one could expect, the city is still ramshacked, rowan is beat up and ends with nothing.
The best sabotage route so far i would consider to be the one where Rowan takes control of things instead of the twins, getting the female orc into the throne seems to start a somewhat relation where is interested in him, corrupting the noble lady himself gets him a loyal follower. Yes it can be considered conquerors path, but it brings more results
Okay there are few things. First technically wardens and nobles are not in charge Solonias church and duke are these is whole point why they are doing there coup. so blaming all of it on them is not right. duke and church and rossarias army's ARE different faction from nobles. its mainly dukes fault i hope i don't have to explain why.
Second twins are kind of looked like jokes in these community but they are very far from it. they have fucking teleportation in medieval times these is such a big advantage its unimageable. Warden and everyone is operating without these knowledge or even that demon lords are back(they don't believe rowan because lol teleportation dose not exits ) what twins and rowan mange to achieve for astarte battle is frankly amazing and i can guarantee almost no medieval nation would be able to stop them in that scenario. so why yes warden could have done better ods where not on hes side.
third When you start wardens route rowan is no longer hero He is villain by every measure. he has blood of tens thousands on hes hands. Even rastadel is beyond saving when rowan talks to warden by every law in the world Rowan deserves to be hanged for hes crimes against humanity. Rowan had a choice of hes life or innocent people and he chose hes and condemned thousand to death or worse.
fourth you can say what you whant about Warden that he is classist and has stick up hes ass BUT he is still best military commander rosaria has left and only person who can realistically lead resistance against twins Plus he is incorruptible.
fives we are in medieval world and Wardens knights and nobles are best fighting force rossaria has left. They are only real force that has any power to oppose twins army's in rossaria. they have troops, connections and skill to lead resistance against twins and every motivation to do so and they will most likely do it in next game
in conclusion warden route is only route where any real resistance to twins is possible and is route that definitely deals twins most damage.
Also rowan deserves every time hes teeth get kicked in because LoL telling warden what's about to happen after HE fuking destroys all the capitals defences and brings twins army to door IS not action of good man. Rowan thinks that he can both Survive and bring twins down without cost and lol thats not happening.
Hero who killed the previous BBEG lives peaceful life with his wife until their hometown is slaughtered and wife kidnapped by new BBEGs; after months of torture he's forced to act as BBEGs commander to save himself and his family.
That is the premise of this game. It isn't "good guy joins genocidal maniacs because he want to"; it isn't "good guy gets mind controlled into doing evil demons' bidding"; it isn't "good guy actually really into raping people"
The premise is he doesn't want to be there and is forced with a magical gun to his head. It should be not only expected, but is explicitly in the choices the game provides, that he will have an option to make those horrible decisions - count for something in the end.
This isn't marketing material, this is, imo, explicitly in the game.
Game that is obviously unfinished (hell, Act I is unfinished from what i understand) and that's why i wrote at first that in this state this is misery porn that i have little interest in continuing to play. Maybe (hopefully) things will change but i see little wiggle room.
Art and narration in sex scenes in first class stil.