falsapersona

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A questionnaire isn't a particularly good solution. Just think of how in depth it would have to be to actually capture things adequately. I'll use one of my runs as an example... this particular Rowan avoids cheating on Alexia in virtually every circumstance that doesn't involve a female Goblin. He bangs basically every female Goblin that offers, but touches no other woman except for Alexia. Alexia, on the other hand, is a giant ho bag who fucks everyone and everything that offers. Simple in concept, but unless there's a question that wraps that up that's still at least half a dozen choices just on female goblins without factoring in every other sexual partner for Rowan, and a boatload of variables for Alexia. The only way to easily account for everything is save carry over, which is fully possible between stand alone games in Ren'Py. Of course the problem there is building a story that accounts for any and all choices.

My suggestion would be to handle it on a case by case basis. Instead of starting with a list of questions you introduce questions as they become relevant. So at the start of the game you get asked about the broad strokes. What was your reason for entering the Twins' service, are you involved with one of them, your relationship with Alexia, and Alexia's relationship with the twins, and finally who you aligned with in the assault on the capital. Then you go to visit Cla-Min and it prompts you with questions related to her, and you repeat this process any time a possible carryover event is relevant. This would allow the player to be eased into things instead of just vomitting questions at them. It would also help with remembering your choices since you're interacting with the relevant characters.
A questionnaire asking question of some key decisions (relationship with the twins, is X corrupt?, who you decided to side with?. etc) may not be a perfect solution, but is easy to implement and shouldn't impact significantly the playthrough so is workable. That said, it works but considering the amount of decisions that you can make in a run it should be an option for those who are not migrating from* Act I or want to skip to Act II and are not too worried about details

Can't get into details bc I don't know how is implemented but this ain't gonna be the first game that will offer an option to migrate a save file between different Acts or Chapters, but should be doable without resorting to black magic
 
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That's the appropriate level of editing. Now you just need the meme.
 

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Believe it or not, many games out there manage a divided game with same story like this, if you don't have a savegame, then you must answer some questions that determines actions in the first part of the game, this way you don't need to play a whole fisrt part to just have a savegame nor less download a savegame data you don't know if was altered; most importanly, it doesn't need to have answer for any fuckable character, just the most important options (as recurrent characters and how involves between to Rowan and Alexia). it's not perfect and doesn't need to, just need to get the shit done to give a player certain path designed as intended by Venus Noire Team for Seed of Chaos.
Believe it or not games that do that aren't typically as convoluted as Seeds of Chaos is, thus they are not particularly relevant. IF you start the game with a massive questionnaire you're going to chase people away.
 
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Believe it or not games that do that aren't typically as convoluted as Seeds of Chaos is, thus they are not particularly relevant. IF you start the game with a massive questionnaire you're going to chase people away.
Maybe there will be more compared to other AVN that have divided the game in parts, but it doesn't have to be that massive, we talking like 10 questions. I pulled this 11 from what we are being asked to play a scene in the gallery + important events, and it probably cover the basics, if I pulled this in 10 mins or so I'm confident the devs will be able to make one that hits the nail
  1. Are Rowan or Alexia corrupt?
  2. Why Rowan agreed to serve the twins? (ServChoice#)
  3. How is Rowan and Alexia's relationship?
  4. Rowan shares a room with _ ?
  5. How Rowan took Raeve Keep?
  6. Society type: Feudal or Might?
  7. How is Alexia relationship (incl. sex) with _ ?
  8. How is Rowan relationship (incl. sex/alliances) with _ ?
  9. Rowan have feelings for _ ?
  10. Astarte path (when completed)?
  11. Who Rowan sided with to capture Rastedel?
 
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Question as I've just finished the intro, if I want to get that Alexia/Jezera image in the sample gallery (or any other women she might have scenes with), do I have to enable the option at the beginning of the game, or does that just refer to her sleeping with other guys?
 

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Question as I've just finished the intro, if I want to get that Alexia/Jezera image in the sample gallery (or any other women she might have scenes with), do I have to enable the option at the beginning of the game, or does that just refer to her sleeping with other guys?
It's not cheating if she is doing it with girls? :unsure: How does that work exactly? But anyway I think so, any scene involving her and someone else without Rowan in the mixture should be blocked if you choose to avoid NTR content, hopefully.
 
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Question as I've just finished the intro, if I want to get that Alexia/Jezera image in the sample gallery (or any other women she might have scenes with), do I have to enable the option at the beginning of the game, or does that just refer to her sleeping with other guys?
The image gallery, or CG Gallery, technically doesn't have an option to simply unlock them, but if you unlock Scene Replay (which can be unlocked at any point) and play the scene any image that appears is available in the CG Gallery. So you can get the Image at any point just need to do a few extra steps

It's not cheating if she is doing it with girls? :unsure: How does that work exactly? But anyway I think so, any scene involving her and someone else without Rowan in the mixture should be blocked if you choose to avoid NTR content, hopefully.
IMO if Rowan doesn't know and she has no intention of letting him know, is cheating, and the game treat it similarly as Alexia x Jezera or Ophelia, or Luirial or succubi all get the NTR tag (that even the succubi got the tag surprised me)
 

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The game still looks good but i just prefer the original artstyle (or MDN/Acht's style). Not sure how i feel about the current style of the CGs but whatever
 
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assuming there is pregnancy in the next games, Clan-min and Alexia will probably get pregnant, but do we have confirmation or a theory about other characters who can get pregnant?
 

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The image gallery, or CG Gallery, technically doesn't have an option to simply unlock them, but if you unlock Scene Replay (which can be unlocked at any point) and play the scene any image that appears is available in the CG Gallery. So you can get the Image at any point just need to do a few extra steps
I meant the sample gallery on this thread, so actually unlocking it in the game.

It's not cheating if she is doing it with girls? :unsure: How does that work exactly? But anyway I think so, any scene involving her and someone else without Rowan in the mixture should be blocked if you choose to avoid NTR content, hopefully.
Hey I dunno how the devs perceive that kind of thing lol. Personally I don't mind hooking her up with the sister, just not the brother. It's part of the route I'd like to go ideally. Get Rowan a harem, take out whats his name demon guy cause he's an asshole (also burned down my home) rule the new world.

Don't know if the game will let me do that, but gotta at least try.
 

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Hey I dunno how the devs perceive that kind of thing lol. Personally I don't mind hooking her up with the sister, just not the brother. It's part of the route I'd like to go ideally. Get Rowan a harem, take out whats his name demon guy cause he's an asshole (also burned down my home) rule the new world.

Don't know if the game will let me do that, but gotta at least try.
If you think about it, from an logical point of view, the only way to ensure that Rowan gets an Harem and make Alexia still loyal to him is avoiding sex interactions with the twinst but allow any other to have a shot with her, that will make advance her corruption and being open to the idea of polyamory without losing her in the process i think.
That would be the route that make sense in the Overlord ending, while the servant would just be full NTR and sad shit.
 

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If you think about it, from an logical point of view, the only way to ensure that Rowan gets an Harem and make Alexia still loyal to him is avoiding sex interactions with the twinst but allow any other to have a shot with her, that will make advance her corruption and being open to the idea of polyamory without losing her in the process i think.
That would be the route that make sense in the Overlord ending, while the servant would just be full NTR and sad shit.
I'm just going off that image from the sample gallery I mentioned, of Alexia and demon girl together. I don't know the context but hey it's a start, I would hope. And so far they're 2 of the only girls I've met, so I like them both. If Rowan could turn Jezzy against her brother somehow, that would be cool.

It's an interesting game. Seems complex, as someone who knows nothing about D&D or how to lvl up stats. All my rolls apparently keep failing lol. I'm sure there's help in the codex but it's like a whole encyclopedia.
 

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assuming there is pregnancy in the next games, Clan-min and Alexia will probably get pregnant, but do we have confirmation or a theory about other characters who can get pregnant?
there are non but i would say Maud is one of character that may end up being pregnant. mostly becouse of how her last event playes out. also drama all that sweat drama
 
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If you think about it, from an logical point of view, the only way to ensure that Rowan gets an Harem and make Alexia still loyal to him is avoiding sex interactions with the twinst but allow any other to have a shot with her, that will make advance her corruption and being open to the idea of polyamory without losing her in the process i think.
That would be the route that make sense in the Overlord ending, while the servant would just be full NTR and sad shit.
I don't know about the harem but in the "scene repeat" we can see that a threesome with the elf and our wife is possible even if we are not corrupted
 
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This might have been asked already but is there any difference between this version and the one presently on GOG?
 

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This might have been asked already but is there any difference between this version and the one presently on GOG?
Don't think so, even the Steam version is the exact same (or at least was, not sure if it still is, with all the censorship crap going on, based on the StramDB patch notes doesn't looks like they censored it so you should be fine).
 
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I meant the sample gallery on this thread, so actually unlocking it in the game.



Hey I dunno how the devs perceive that kind of thing lol. Personally I don't mind hooking her up with the sister, just not the brother. It's part of the route I'd like to go ideally. Get Rowan a harem, take out whats his name demon guy cause he's an asshole (also burned down my home) rule the new world.

Don't know if the game will let me do that, but gotta at least try.
The Dev stance is that any sex that Alexia has without Rowan present is NTR. They take a broad stance because different people can have very different definitions of what qualifies as NTR. But regardless of whattheir definition is they will be upset if they see it after turning NTR off.

Personally I'm of the opinion that the game is better with NTR turned on even if you have no intention of engaging with anything NTR adjacent. Every sex scene in the game is optional so Alexis will not cheat on Rowan unless you specifically choose for her to do so. So even if you have NTR turned on there is no NTR unless you want there to be.

However as a warning, while the game has plenty of cheating to go around, it also has two hard NTR paths in which Alexia becomes more dedicated to one of the twins that she is to Rowan. Once she passes a certain point on one of those paths she cannot get off the path and you will loose you ability to choose whether or not she submits to that twin in future NTR path scenes. However there are plenty of Alexia x Jezera scenes that are not part of the NTR path as well. As long as you keep Alexia's relationship with Rowan at a decent level (above 50) you don't have worry about triggering the NTR path at all no matter how much she sleeps around or who it is with.
 
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