Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]

[FGM01]

The Dev stance is that any sex that Alexia has without Rowan present is NTR. They take a broad stance because different people can have very different definitions of what qualifies as NTR. But regardless of whattheir definition is they will be upset if they see it after turning NTR off.

Personally I'm of the opinion that the game is better with NTR turned on even if you have no intention of engaging with anything NTR adjacent. Every sex scene in the game is optional so Alexis will not cheat on Rowan unless you specifically choose for her to do so. So even if you have NTR turned on there is no NTR unless you want there to be.

However as a warning, while the game has plenty of cheating to go around, it also has two hard NTR paths in which Alexia becomes more dedicated to one of the twins that she is to Rowan. Once she passes a certain point on one of those paths she cannot get off the path and you will loose you ability to choose whether or not she submits to that twin in future NTR path scenes. However there are plenty of Alexia x Jezera scenes that are not part of the NTR path as well. As long as you keep Alexia's relationship with Rowan at a decent level (above 50) you don't have worry about triggering the NTR path at all no matter how much she sleeps around or who it is with.

That's good to know thanks. I haven't seen any hint of Alexia/Jezera yet though, is there some route you have to go down as a prerequisite? So far I just had her and Rowan hook up with the succubus queen, then got Alexia drunk with the minotaur. Feel kind of guilty about that one, actually because it seemed like it made the big guy uncomfortable lol.

 

[falsapersona]

That's good to know thanks. I haven't seen any hint of Alexia/Jezera yet though, is there some route you have to go down as a prerequisite? So far I just had her and Rowan hook up with the succubus queen, then got Alexia drunk with the minotaur. Feel kind of guilty about that one, actually because it seemed like it made the big guy uncomfortable lol.

Make sure you have Alexia doing Maid jobs often when you get to that point on the story, by that then you would likely had Alexia's corruption high enough that you have gotten the scene with the tree's scene

 

[sin(α)]

Once she passes a certain point on one of those paths she cannot get off the path and you will loose you ability to choose whether or not she submits to that twin in future NTR path scenes.

Um... ackchyually... Alexia can "exit" both obedience-paths now! (Not 100% sure in which version it was introduced.)

If Alexia is obedient to Andras you can stop after Andras invites her to Lord de Vere's party. Choose: Disgusting -› Was that… Her? -› He’s turned her into a whore -› … -› some unavoidable choices - that sets alexiaAndrasObedient flag to False again.

If Alexia is obedient to Jezera just refuse to steal the dagger from Rowan when she asks (it's just a test btw). That sets alexiaJezObedient flag to False again.

 

[FGM01]

Make sure you have Alexia doing Maid jobs often when you get to that point on the story, by that then you would likely had Alexia's corruption high enough that you have gotten the scene with the tree's scene

None of those yet. Didn't know you could get her corruption lvls up too.

Does this game currently end with the Raeve attack or is there more? Cause I don't see how you can do everything in such a tiny window, when just unlocking the whole map is gonna take a long time. And is it still going to be finished? This thread started almost a decade ago and it's still not marked as complete. It's not a SS situation is it? People over here talkin about sequels though, unexpected.

 

[falsapersona]

None of those yet. Didn't know you could get her corruption lvls up too.

Everytime you take a decision that influence her corruption she a +3 or +5 added to her internal counter, the NTR path and the Overlord path will see a lot of those

Does this game currently end with the Raeve attack or is there more? Cause I don't see how you can do everything in such a tiny window, when just unlocking the whole map is gonna take a long time. And is it still going to be finished? This thread started almost a decade ago and it's still not marked as complete. It's not a SS situation is it? People over here talkin about sequels though, unexpected.

I'd guess you play on Android, can't imagine the controllers being user friendly considering the castle has a point-and-click interface and the explore map looks like a rough ttrpg from 10+ years ago, it is best experience in a monitor but each work with what we have available

The game does continues after Raeve, around 68 ingame weeks of gameplay/story at the time based on my experience so far. It is uncertain if the game ever gets to an end tho, devs are relatively active on Patron and Subscribestar but if the game has been in development for a decade they could be milking subscribers and taking things slow or plain stalling on purpose, and unfortunately is not unusual to have games in this genre being abandoned so there is that possibility. Personally, I'm just taking the game for what it is, loving the story and the world these characters live in, but I found the game less than a month ago so I still hopefully optimistic that we'll get to see an ending

 

[Talishan]

Why this game thread is just debates after fucking debates lmao. I only wanted to ask is that what kind of gay sex this game has? Like femboys twinks or manly men or futa on male?

Not my thing, but I unpack the game and go through the gallery regularly to see if there is anything new that is my cup of tea, so I catch glipses of the gay scenes. It seems to have quite a mix of all of those things plus monster sex and furry sex on top of them. There are at least two futas who can fuck you, and I think it is more than once from the number of images. I have seen lots of manly men images, at least one femboy who gets it multiple times, at least one monster scene, at least one gay furry scene, and one fuckable humanoid monster that I don't know how to classify. I have skimmed through the images enough times that I think that answer isn't too inaccurate.

 

[FGM01]

Everytime you take a decision that influence her corruption she a +3 or +5 added to her internal counter, the NTR path and the Overlord path will see a lot of those


I'd guess you play on Android, can't imagine the controllers being user friendly considering the castle has a point-and-click interface and the explore map looks like a rough ttrpg from 10+ years ago, it is best experience in a monitor but each work with what we have available

The game does continues after Raeve, around 68 ingame weeks of gameplay/story at the time based on my experience so far. It is uncertain if the game ever gets to an end tho, devs are relatively active on Patron and Subscribestar but if the game has been in development for a decade they could be milking subscribers and taking things slow or plain stalling on purpose, and unfortunately is not unusual to have games in this genre being abandoned so there is that possibility. Personally, I'm just taking the game for what it is, loving the story and the world these characters live in, but I found the game less than a month ago so I still hopefully optimistic that we'll get to see an ending

Nah I'm on my laptop. Control isn't an issue.

Don't know for sure what the Overlord path is but based on the name I'm guessing it's the one I'm trying to go down. Really hoping this won't end up being another SS though.

Only odd game decisions to me so far are when I'm early on and it gives me a choice prompt, except there's only one option. Like near the start when the goblin family gets stopped at the border, all I could pick was "sympathize but do nothing." Like why even give us that haha, I definitely hadn't had time to get any real stat boosts

 

[Wiliam 1234567]

Nah I'm on my laptop. Control isn't an issue.

Don't know for sure what the Overlord path is but based on the name I'm guessing it's the one I'm trying to go down. Really hoping this won't end up being another SS though.

Only odd game decisions to me so far are when I'm early on and it gives me a choice prompt, except there's only one option. Like near the start when the goblin family gets stopped at the border, all I could pick was "sympathize but do nothing." Like why even give us that haha, I definitely hadn't had time to get any real stat boosts

I think in this scene if you have the brothel (or the succubus summoning circle, I don't remember which) the game gives you one more option

 

[EidolonOfMadness]

I edited my save but can't open it even though I choose the "YES" option, any idea?

 

[falsapersona]

Only odd game decisions to me so far are when I'm early on and it gives me a choice prompt, except there's only one option. Like near the start when the goblin family gets stopped at the border, all I could pick was "sympathize but do nothing." Like why even give us that haha, I definitely hadn't had time to get any real stat boosts

If you only get one option that means that you are not meeting the reqs for more decisions, that sometimes happens. Can't remember from head but I think you need to have enough sympathy with Cla-Min and troops available to lend or money to bribe to border patrol. Some of these events are random, so it is not a bad idea to save often and if you don't have enough requirements to take an action or be successful you can always go back and hope you get a new event, particularly useful for the Andras gets bored event in the early game which results in a debuff if you fight or him claiming Rowan's ass for his entertainment

Don't know for sure what the Overlord path is but based on the name I'm guessing it's the one I'm trying to go down. Really hoping this won't end up being another SS though.

If Rowan decides to be loyal to the Twins you have two main paths to play him:
Overlord - corrupted but allied for the thrill and the giggles. Rowan fully embrace his role as the Twins' Dragon. Lots of brownie points with Andras
Subservient - self explanatory, Rowan gets corrupted as he fulfills every of the Twins whims without resistance. You get points with both, but Rowan will become mainly Jezera plaything

 

[Kyonyuu_Lover]

Any sort of updated guide? The ones pinned seem to be outdated.

 

[sin(α)]

I edited my save but can't open it even though I choose the "YES" option, any idea?

Maybe this post helps? (I would edit variables directly ingame instead.)

Only odd game decisions to me so far are when I'm early on and it gives me a choice prompt, except there's only one option. Like near the start when the goblin family gets stopped at the border, all I could pick was "sympathize but do nothing." Like why even give us that haha, I definitely hadn't had time to get any real stat boosts

The event in question (caravan_delayed) can trigger any time after week 4 without any additional requirements. But you must have built a brothel and have at least one free spy to get another option ("Use a spy to teach the guild woman a lesson.").

Any sort of updated guide?

No.

 

[FGM01]

If you only get one option that means that you are not meeting the reqs for more decisions, that sometimes happens. Can't remember from head but I think you need to have enough sympathy with Cla-Min and troops available to lend or money to bribe to border patrol. Some of these events are random, so it is not a bad idea to save often and if you don't have enough requirements to take an action or be successful you can always go back and hope you get a new event, particularly useful for the Andras gets bored event in the early game which results in a debuff if you fight or him claiming Rowan's ass for his entertainment

Yeah that one loaded for me too, I tried reloading a bunch but couldn't get a single success roll in the fight so I just picked the leave option. I didn't have any of the resources for Cla-Min when her scene played.

If Rowan decides to be loyal to the Twins you have two main paths to play him:
Overlord - corrupted but allied for the thrill and the giggles. Rowan fully embrace his role as the Twins' Dragon. Lots of brownie points with Andras
Subservient - self explanatory, Rowan gets corrupted as he fulfills every of the Twins whims without resistance. You get points with both, but Rowan will become mainly Jezera plaything

Darn neither of those routes have quite what I wanted, being "loyal" to Jezera by which I mean Rowan gains enough power to take over and she becomes one of his women.

 

[iainmore]

Don't think so, even the Steam version is the exact same (or at least was, not sure if it still is, with all the censorship crap going on, based on the StramDB patch notes doesn't looks like they censored it so you should be fine).

Ta

 

[Ghost1139]

So, the newest mobile version seems to be missing Greyhkde, Whitespace, etc scenes. Is there a mobile version with them? Or is this like a PC only thing?

 

[Versace217]

If Rowan decides to be loyal to the Twins you have two main paths to play him:
Overlord - corrupted but allied for the thrill and the giggles. Rowan fully embrace his role as the Twins' Dragon. Lots of brownie points with Andras
Subservient - self explanatory, Rowan gets corrupted as he fulfills every of the Twins whims without resistance. You get points with both, but Rowan will become mainly Jezera plaything

There are 3 main paths to choose from and that isn't the Overlord path.
1. Submit to the twins completely and accept them as rulers.
2. Wait patiently while plotting to eventually kill them.
3. Eventually take control of everything becoming the new ruler. This is the Overlord path.

 

[Wiliam 1234567]

Yeah that one loaded for me too, I tried reloading a bunch but couldn't get a single success roll in the fight so I just picked the leave option. I didn't have any of the resources for Cla-Min when her scene played.



Darn neither of those routes have quite what I wanted, being "loyal" to Jezera by which I mean Rowan gains enough power to take over and she becomes one of his women.

All paths have many variations, so if by "she becomes one of his women" you are talking about being the sexual dominant, then this has already started to be built at the end of this first game and will be better developed in the next ones, but if you are talking in the romantic sense, this will be very difficult to happen (maybe not impossible, but certainly unlikely).

 

[falsapersona]

There are 3 main paths to choose from and that isn't the Overlord path.
2. Wait patiently while plotting to eventually kill them.

I have been playing Rowan this particular way bc me love a trickster hero, and I wouldn't say this particular path is loyal to the Twins as you are only biding time, sabotaging their plots, gaining allies for you instead of them, giving the any possible chances for their enemies to get the upper hand while patiently waiting for the opportunity to strike. This is a path you are Loyal to your Kingdom (the more Paragon-ish way to play it), to Alexia or to yourself (which will include more corruption choices bc Rowan is taking them down to take the power for himself)

All paths have many variations, so if by "she becomes one of his women" you are talking about being the sexual dominant, then this has already started to be built at the end of this first game and will be better developed in the next ones, but if you are talking in the romantic sense, this will be very difficult to happen (maybe not impossible, but certainly unlikely).

Agreed, add Jezera to the harem for romantic reasons sounds unlikely, not impossible but if it does happen it won't be easy. But we had gotten a couple of maledom scenes in which Rowan is the maledom and Jezera is femsub like the one with the female Fae which requires that Rowan plays along with her plan, and watching the battle of Rastedel from the top of the hill which requires some hard rolls to be the dom, but if planned correctly it should be doable, just mind there are not that many of these scenes bc is a work in progress

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

There are 3 main paths to choose from and that isn't the Overlord path.
1. Submit to the twins completely and accept them as rulers.
2. Wait patiently while plotting to eventually kill them.
3. Eventually take control of everything becoming the new ruler. This is the Overlord path.

Would be a lot more open to the 1st one. If we could invoke some dark chaos magic juju. And turn Andras into Adrasia. Like if you want me to fully turn to the darkside and switch. You gotta turn into a bitch. That temperament of his would be a lot less annoying and maybe a wee bit more appealing. If I didn't have to worry about him wanting to shove his pickle up my ass.

Could also work on Overlord. When we take control. Allow us to turn his outie into an innie. The ultimate revenge! Take his power, the throne, and his manhood! Take it an extra step and make em breedable. Do it yourself or toss him her to the troops for morale.

 

[Versace217]

Would be a lot more open to the 1st one. If we could invoke some dark chaos magic juju. And turn Andras into Adrasia. Like if you want me to fully turn to the darkside and switch. You gotta turn into a bitch. That temperament of his would be a lot less annoying and maybe a wee bit more appealing. If I didn't have to worry about him wanting to shove his pickle up my ass.

Could also work on Overlord. When we take control. Allow us to turn his outie into an innie. The ultimate revenge! Take his power, the throne, and his manhood! Take it an extra step and make em breedable. Do it yourself or toss him her to the troops for morale.

I wholeheartedly agree! Andras is a prick who needs some lessons beaten into him. If the devs play it right, the pit that was unearthed by Kasim but hasn't been unlocked yet was where Kharos performed all his experimentation and transformations. That pit will probably be used to give Rowan chaos powers and would allow him to do other chaos stuff like gender bending . So yes, it can very well be a possibility.