Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]

[Stave]

In the newest version the greyhide Alexia content is not firing. In the nighttime drinking conversation between Rowan and Greyhide there is not an option to tell him to meet Alexia and start the route. Am I missing something?

 

[Thefanboyieee]

In the newest version the greyhide Alexia content is not firing. In the nighttime drinking conversation between Rowan and Greyhide there is not an option to tell him to meet Alexia and start the route. Am I missing something?

The version uploaded here doesn't have the beastiality content because of Patreon and the credit card company issue iirc.

 

[diebesgrab]

Just a very old game over guide.

Hey, that's not fair. There's a super outdated guide to navigating the early game, too. There's even a possibly outdated map!

 

[DeltaDragon]

how is this game still on-going? its like one of the very first I got into back in 2016-17 I figured it would be finished by now.

 

[Magadan]

how is this game still on-going? its like one of the very first I got into back in 2016-17 I figured it would be finished by now.

Damn I didn't even realise it was that old lol. I got into this game a little before the pandemic. Still no return to Arthdale xd

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Haven't played in a million years but can someone remind if Rowan HAS to fuck Heleyna or whatever her name is for Alexia to get onto the Andras route? Because it seems that without doing that her favorability with Rowan never dips low enough for all the Andras events play.

The Andras NTR path is triggered by meeting the following criteria: A low relationship between Alexia and Rowan, Alexia having at least medium corruption, Andras having more influence on Alexia than Jezera, and not already being on Jezera's NTR path. If you don't meet all those criteria then you wont start the Andras NTR path.

The first NTR path scene is the one when Rowan asks Alexia to deliver some orders to the orcs and you have to take certain actions to go down the NTR path: when the orc insults Alexia have her insult the orc back, after the orc almost rapes her have her turn to Andras for help instead of Rowan, then have her agree to meet privately with Andras afterwards.

Once you have done those three things you are on Andras' NTR path. Warning, once you are on his NTR path you will have limited choices when dealing with Andras' NTR events going forward.

Note that there are a good number of Alexia x Andras scenes that are not part of the NTR path, and are just regular cheating, but they still are useful for increasing Andras' influence and increasing Alexia's corruption in order to trigger the NTR path.

As for lowering their relationship, in addition to sleeping with Helenya (which depending on how you talk to Alexia about it may be a major or minor drop):
-You can generally have Rowan be dismissive or or jerk towards her (there will eventually be plenty of opportunities).
-You can also get a big drop when Helanya comes to Rowan for help escaping, if you refuse to help her escape Alexia will help her instead, and if you turn Alexia in it will be a huge hit.
-If you are sleeping with your elf secretary, eventually Alexia will confront you about it, and you can get a decent drop if the encounter goes poorly (or a threesome if it goes well).
-If Alexia is working as a maid there is a fairly common repeating event where the other maids will be gossiping about Rowan supposedly sleeping with a femle castle NPC (these rumors will exist regardless of whether or not you down anything), and if you have Alexia let the rumors get to her the relationship will take a small hit each time, and it is a slow but reliable method especially if you don't want Rowan to be a complete bastard to his wife.
-There is a similar event when Alexia is working at the tavern, if Rowan has had at least 2 gay sexual encounters, there will be a repeating event in which Alexia questions his sexuality that gives the relationship a small drop

 

[rivon]

If you don't meet all those criteria then you wont start the Andras NTR path.
Once you have done those three things you are on Andras' NTR path.
Note that there are a good number of Alexia x Andras scenes that are not part of the NTR path, and are just regular cheating.

Gosh...
It's not easy to get your wife NTRd this days!
Have to have both side written consent then throw her in to the orcs mob 5 times.
and ofcourse squeeze into Andras tight schedule!

the fact is
"It's not ntr Rowan! im just cheating on you!"

 

[johndqdo]

Hey guys, it’s been a few years since I last played this game, and I have a few questions.

The version uploaded here doesn't have the beastiality content because of Patreon and the credit card company issue iirc.

The SubscribeStar version have the original scenes?

Is there any estimative for the release of the final version?

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Gosh...
It's not easy to get your wife NTRd this days!
Have to have both side written consent then throw her in to the orcs mob 5 times.
and ofcourse squeeze into Andras tight schedule!

the fact is
"It's not ntr Rowan! im just cheating on you!"

The twins clearly have a lot on their plate considering Jezera's NTR path has the same requirements, just with the names reversed.

But yeah it can be tricky to explain the difference between the baseline fucking around in the game and the actual, officially labled as such in the game files, NTR paths. Especially since everyone can have such wildly different definitions of NTR.

A lot of newer players don't realize there the basic ntr lite, where Alexia is having and enjoying sex with someone beside Rowan, but still sees herself primarily as his wife, still wants to escape, and if actively forced to choose would choose Rowan in a heartbeat. And then there is the hard capital NTR, where Alexia's primary loyalties have switch to someone else, she doesn't want to escape or be rescued, and would throw Rowan under the bus to keep this new dynamic. But that to reach that point the pieces have to align just right.

Anyone can get cheated on. But it take skill and hard work to fuck up you relationship so bad that your wife becomes a brainwashed whore for someone else.

 

[preewds]

Hey guys, it’s been a few years since I last played this game, and I have a few questions.


The SubscribeStar version have the original scenes?

Is there any estimative for the release of the final version?

The Subscribestar version, as well as Steam and GOG versions are all intact with nothing removed.

Tentative estimate for finished act 1 are sometime next year. There is no estimate for all three acts and speculation would still be pointless to that end yet.

 

[rivon]

And then there is the hard capital NTR, where Alexia's primary loyalties have switch to someone else, she doesn't want to escape or be rescued, and would throw Rowan under the bus to keep this new dynamic. But that to reach that point the pieces have to align just right.

I think part of the "hero journey' (in books/games ets) is overcoming obstacles or grave threat and thus through this the hero is borne.
Here it feels like to get in to trouble you have to intentionally self sabotage.
In the early stages of game development, it was the other way around: you had to make the right choices, otherwise you fucked.
Now it's the opposite and it feels wrong on the fundamental level.
Its like you come over to Andras and be like hay dude plz fuck my wife!
And he is like nah man im fine.
The twins become this vegan\soy version of themselves.
They do not make a move if you don't allow them.
There is no real threat, so there are no stakes.

 

[Madfire8]

Does anyone knows how to unlock that image in-game ?

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Didn't find it in Scene replay.

 

[sambrabullcock]

so i haven't play the game for awhile and i couldn't find the scene between Greyhide and Rowan did it get removed ? also the version i have is 0.4.13a

 

[Stave]

The version uploaded here doesn't have the beastiality content because of Patreon and the credit card company issue iirc.

Thank you!

 

[Stave]

Has anyone uploaded the noncensored/nonpatreon version here?

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

I think part of the "hero journey' (in books/games ets) is overcoming obstacles or grave threat and thus through this the hero is borne.
Here it feels like to get in to trouble you have to intentionally self sabotage.
In the early stages of game development, it was the other way around: you had to make the right choices, otherwise you fucked.
Now it's the opposite and it feels wrong on the fundamental level.
Its like you come over to Andras and be like hay dude plz fuck my wife!
And he is like nah man im fine.
The twins become this vegan\soy version of themselves.
They do not make a move if you don't allow them.
There is no real threat, so there are no stakes.

I mean I was mostly playing along with the joke. But its not really that hard to pull off. Lets brake it down.

Alexia having at least medium corruption. Corruption is really easy to find in this game. This isn't even worth considering a hurdle. Most players will probably get medium corruption by accident unless they are specifically having Alexia avoid sex with anyone beside Rowan, in which case they probably don't want the NTR path anyways.

A low relationship between Alexia and Rowan. By low it mean below 50 out of 100. This is probably the most difficult for a player who doesn't know what they are doing to easily achieve, because the easiest way to be a bit of a dismissive jerk to your wife. But as I laid out there are non jerky ways that you could pull this off as well. Heck some sizable drops can be achieved just by being pragmatic, for example telling her that it might not be the best idea for her to actively be trying to get pregnant while you are both still captured by sex demons. Also, it makes sense for this to be a requirement for real "steal your girl" NTR. Her relationship with you needs to already be broken for her to turn to someone else instead.

Andras having more influence on Alexia than Jezera. This is mostly a matter of which twin you have her sleep with more. Honestly, Andras has a lot more scenes so it will probably naturally be him unless you are actively gunning for Jezera.

Not already being on Jezera's NTR path. This should be pretty obvious. She can only have one master.


Then the first scene is kind of just a test to see if Alexia has become the type of woman that would NTR her husband with a guy like Andras.
When the orc insults Alexia have her insult the orc back. Has her personality changed? Is she kind of a cruel bitch now? Does she think she is untouchable or better than others? If she is still timid and afraid, she probably isn't the type to actively NTR her husband.

After the orc almost rapes her have her turn to Andras for help instead of Rowan. Is their relationship really so damaged that she would turn to Andras for help instead of her own husband when she needs help and comfort?

Have her agree to meet privately with Andras afterwards. Andras is obviously inviting her back to his place for sex. In almost all the normal cheating scenes Andras is pressuring her into doing stuff for him, and she is ostensibly doing it against her will. But this time he isn't pressuring her, he is inviting her. Does she go to him willingly?

 

[rivon]

But its not really that hard to pull off. Lets brake it down.

Yeh, the comprehensive guide to get yourself Ntrd in SoC

I think we have a miscommunication here.
What im trying to say is that you have to jump through all this loops
to HAVE yourself NTRd
And by any sane logic gameplay wise That should be the opposite...you should do ABCD to avoid being NTRd

The Hero should fight antagonist to avoid his loved one fall in to the hands of villains but here gameplay structured in such a way that we have to self sabotage Rowan to make anything bad happen.

 

[sorjs53]

Yeh, the comprehensive guide to get yourself Ntrd in SoC

I think we have a miscommunication here.
What im trying to say is that you have to jump through all this loops
to HAVE yourself NTRd
And by any sane logic gameplay wise That should be the opposite...you should do ABCD to avoid being NTRd

The Hero should fight antagonist to avoid his loved one fall in to the hands of villains but here gameplay structured in such a way that we have to self sabotage Rowan to make anything bad happen.

That’s what I’m saying. Any positive interaction will yield lots of approval points, whereas you’d have to actively hate your wife for her to approval to drop 1-2 points at a time. Even when corrupted, Alexia will still always be thinking of Rowan. IMO the devs should’ve made it to where Andras will actively pursue Alexia without care for what Rowan thinks or have Rowan share her with Andras since Alexia wants to get pregnant anyways and Rowan seemingly isn’t supposed to have kids from what I gathered while playing

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Yeh, the comprehensive guide to get yourself Ntrd in SoC

I think we have a miscommunication here.
What im trying to say is that you have to jump through all this loops
to HAVE yourself NTRd
And by any sane logic gameplay wise That should be the opposite...you should do ABCD to avoid being NTRd

The Hero should fight antagonist to avoid his loved one fall in to the hands of villains but here gameplay structured in such a way that we have to self sabotage Rowan to make anything bad happen.

I mean the game has always been about choice. Despite supposedly being a bunch of chaotic sex demons, everyone seems to be really into consent because they always respect your choices if you have Rowan or Alexia say no. People are always asking if the NTR or gay sex is avoidable, and the answer is yeah. All the sex is easily avoidable. If you were so inclined, you could go through the whole game with both of them being completely celibate.

Do I think the game would potentially be better or more interesting if it was even darker and consent wasn't always a given? Sure, maybe. But it would also be a very different game, not allowed on many of the main distribution platforms, have a much smaller audience, and be less profitable.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Yeh, the comprehensive guide to get yourself Ntrd in SoC

I think we have a miscommunication here.
What im trying to say is that you have to jump through all this loops
to HAVE yourself NTRd
And by any sane logic gameplay wise That should be the opposite...you should do ABCD to avoid being NTRd

The Hero should fight antagonist to avoid his loved one fall in to the hands of villains but here gameplay structured in such a way that we have to self sabotage Rowan to make anything bad happen.

Except none of those are anything unreasonable to require. It was a lot of words but essentially boiled down to corruption and being a bad husband. Which would make sense in general as long as we not going for pure fap material. But since gameplay isn't divorced from the story. Let's logically look at the story.

She was attacked and kidnapped, her house and village razed. As far as I believe she knew, everyone she had cared about which I'm sure were like family, was murdered. In part by the dude you want to NTR her. To add to this since it's still in the early game. While keep her for months, tells her that Rowan abandoned her iirc. To which she later finds out was a lie. My mans introduction starts in the negatives and only goes deeper, just in the early game. Then we have Rowan, who can behave as a loving husband. Being her rock and comfort in a bad situation. As well as just a reminder better times before and to come.

Andras isn't just some regular NTR antagonist. Why would getting her to fall into the arms of someone who Jihaded her happy life. Not require fucking up? Then to add to that. He's not breathing down her neck 24/7. Ready to be there whenever Rowan isn't. He does have other things to attend to. He's not the level headed suave guy, because he sometimes looses his cool when told no, even with Alexia. Which would reinforce the idea of being reluctant. He can't go down the just rape route since him and his sister decided to keep Rowan in line using her. To which he is trying to circumvent by tempting. And she's not even his main concern starting off. They have a lot of optional content. But he's going for her just to do it. So he doesn't even have that NTR antagonist fire under his ass to go all in for her.

Now you may not like it. You may want it done a different way. But as things are setup. It looks logical to me.