yeah i dont really see how's that suppose to be an upgrade that "system" could have been added to the game without wasting so much time and it feels worse than the previous version anyway what a shame
Ren'Py Sex and Fantasy - Village of Centaurs [Ep.6 2.0] [Alek ErectSociety]
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Jesus what did I miss? Haven't played since chapter 2 and the game went from somewhat interesting to a clusterfuck of unpolished "interactive game" slop.
no idea dev decided he didn't like the game system anymore, took forever to remake said system to turn scene progression into dnd roll instead of the visual novel with rpg element he seems to be going for what we have now is just a test but honestly with how far he was on the other version like some said he might as well just have finished the other game as a VN and work turn this shit show into a new project.
Sometime dev try to make their game to much of a "game" at the end of the day it's porn a good system can be fun
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- Sep 21, 2020
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Pffffffffffft. Man, what a shitshow. The people still supporting Alek deserve to be scammed at this point.
Okay I just read his latest post on patreon, I wanna make sure I understand it clearly I am a bit slow on these things.
"Unfortunately, there have been unfounded accusations on the Internet, probably caused by hatred and frustration.
There is a belief that I want to eliminate the old S&F and replace it with something completely different.
Nothing could be more wrong."
"It would have been enough for them to read my work in progress to understand that it is not a replacement, but a new beginning with more solid gameplay bases for a more frenetic open_world, where the plots of the old S&F would have been reinserted without particular changes. "
I feel like these 2 quotes directly clash against one another. saying its not a replacement but a new beginning is saying that its not getting replaced but still a new thing is made of it, therefore the old is replaced by the new right?
"What I notice is that there is a huge gap between developers and players.
Where many developers bust their ass working, and some players are like the fat people in "Little Nightmare" who devour every dish in front of them, shitting judgments.
I would like them to know that I sleep very well at night and that their words are just a little annoying like someone who farts next to you during a good meal."
Yes there is a huge gap sometimes between players and developers. Players don't understand always how programming and game dev works. but it goes for both sides. How often have devs made changes to games that players hated and caused the game to fail. People got into this game for its sex scenes with futa, thats the main draw to it, from a personal feeling the change to a suddenly skill based talking/battle/romance where I need to understand what each skill does, son im here to jack off to futas. not making a character build.
also the biggest elephant being the 2 years of no new public game release while still raking in patreon money. the dev mightve seen it as RnD time but you gotta know your clients. eventually they want their product or some sort of result of investment.
its getting late here and my head hurt lightly thinking about it all. maybe this made sense, made I just confused myself more
I just wanted a good futa game
"Unfortunately, there have been unfounded accusations on the Internet, probably caused by hatred and frustration.
There is a belief that I want to eliminate the old S&F and replace it with something completely different.
Nothing could be more wrong."
"It would have been enough for them to read my work in progress to understand that it is not a replacement, but a new beginning with more solid gameplay bases for a more frenetic open_world, where the plots of the old S&F would have been reinserted without particular changes. "
I feel like these 2 quotes directly clash against one another. saying its not a replacement but a new beginning is saying that its not getting replaced but still a new thing is made of it, therefore the old is replaced by the new right?
"What I notice is that there is a huge gap between developers and players.
Where many developers bust their ass working, and some players are like the fat people in "Little Nightmare" who devour every dish in front of them, shitting judgments.
I would like them to know that I sleep very well at night and that their words are just a little annoying like someone who farts next to you during a good meal."
Yes there is a huge gap sometimes between players and developers. Players don't understand always how programming and game dev works. but it goes for both sides. How often have devs made changes to games that players hated and caused the game to fail. People got into this game for its sex scenes with futa, thats the main draw to it, from a personal feeling the change to a suddenly skill based talking/battle/romance where I need to understand what each skill does, son im here to jack off to futas. not making a character build.
also the biggest elephant being the 2 years of no new public game release while still raking in patreon money. the dev mightve seen it as RnD time but you gotta know your clients. eventually they want their product or some sort of result of investment.
its getting late here and my head hurt lightly thinking about it all. maybe this made sense, made I just confused myself more
I just wanted a good futa game
See you all in three years when he releases another two scenes...
- Jul 28, 2018
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Here is his newest Post:
He says he’s “pleasantly surprised” by how much people liked the old version. But instead of owning up to scrapping it and disappointing his supporters, he brushes it off like it’s a compliment. This feels like he’s trying to soften the blow while quietly moving on from what people originally invested in. He got almost 4k per month to work on that specific game and was "suprised" now.
He says he’s going to organize all his notes into a single document this week and start working on a new first chapter next week. This feels like yet another round of stalling tactics. He’s essentially saying, "I’ll start building a foundation soon," when he’s had years to get this together. Why wasn’t this done earlier? And given his history, how likely is it that this will actually happen?
- He admitted the old game had no proper main story, yet it took years to address this now?.
- The new ideas are vague and overly ambitious, considering his track record of slow progress.
- He’s focusing on writing the main story now, which is something that should have been foundational from the start.
To really grasp how much of a leech this guy is, consider this: the project was started on December 2017, that’s the oldest post you’ll find from him on Patreon. Somehow, Alek is the only person in the world who can "work" for almost 8 years and deliver absolutely nothing.
Now, compare that to someone I use to support, Sirens Domain. They managed to create multiple separate games, never scrapping entire projects just because they had a new idea. They actually delivered on their promises, with completed games that had compelling stories and a ton of characters. Meanwhile, Alek has wasted everyone’s time and money with nothing to show for it, he rakes in almost 4k perr month to work on this single renpy game.
And to really expose his true character and how he views his supporters, just take a look at this quote from one of his other posts:
"Where many developers bust their ass working, and some players are like the fat people in "Little Nightmare" who devour every dish in front of them, shitting judgments.
I would like them to know that I sleep very well at night and that their words are just a little annoying like someone who farts next to you during a good meal"
You’ve got to give him credit, working his ass off for years and still having absolutely nothing to show for it. That’s an achievement in itself.
This post is a textbook example of damage control.
He says he’s “pleasantly surprised” by how much people liked the old version. But instead of owning up to scrapping it and disappointing his supporters, he brushes it off like it’s a compliment. This feels like he’s trying to soften the blow while quietly moving on from what people originally invested in. He got almost 4k per month to work on that specific game and was "suprised" now.
He says he’s going to organize all his notes into a single document this week and start working on a new first chapter next week. This feels like yet another round of stalling tactics. He’s essentially saying, "I’ll start building a foundation soon," when he’s had years to get this together. Why wasn’t this done earlier? And given his history, how likely is it that this will actually happen?
- He admitted the old game had no proper main story, yet it took years to address this now?.
- The new ideas are vague and overly ambitious, considering his track record of slow progress.
- He’s focusing on writing the main story now, which is something that should have been foundational from the start.
To really grasp how much of a leech this guy is, consider this: the project was started on December 2017, that’s the oldest post you’ll find from him on Patreon. Somehow, Alek is the only person in the world who can "work" for almost 8 years and deliver absolutely nothing.
Now, compare that to someone I use to support, Sirens Domain. They managed to create multiple separate games, never scrapping entire projects just because they had a new idea. They actually delivered on their promises, with completed games that had compelling stories and a ton of characters. Meanwhile, Alek has wasted everyone’s time and money with nothing to show for it, he rakes in almost 4k perr month to work on this single renpy game.
And to really expose his true character and how he views his supporters, just take a look at this quote from one of his other posts:
"Where many developers bust their ass working, and some players are like the fat people in "Little Nightmare" who devour every dish in front of them, shitting judgments.
I would like them to know that I sleep very well at night and that their words are just a little annoying like someone who farts next to you during a good meal"
You’ve got to give him credit, working his ass off for years and still having absolutely nothing to show for it. That’s an achievement in itself.
- Oct 8, 2018
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I initially thought "Oh, there's two versions. Should be easy to combine them into one," and so downloaded the compressed v1.0 builds linked in the OP. What I saw was an absolute mess (plus compression artifacts causing noise in the comparison algorithm things). When the dev says "Trust me when I tell you that the structure of the first S&F was a disaster in terms of organization, code, and main story", he means it. It's horrid.
After downloading v2.0 I can say that what the dev has done, but not properly communicated, was a massive reorganization of the code. This is not easy to do. I get that he has disappointed a ton, if not all of his fans with his lack of updates; this is not a defense of everything he's done. There's still bugs in the code which don't manifest themself as actual bugs (like using
My advice to the dev is one of pity. Ask for help. I get that it's his game, but his workflow is not working and all he'll be left with is burnout and angry people who once supported him.
After downloading v2.0 I can say that what the dev has done, but not properly communicated, was a massive reorganization of the code. This is not easy to do. I get that he has disappointed a ton, if not all of his fans with his lack of updates; this is not a defense of everything he's done. There's still bugs in the code which don't manifest themself as actual bugs (like using
renpy.random.randint(1,5) when he'd want renpy.random.randint(1,6) as it only generates numbers from the 1st parameter to the 2nd parameter - 1).My advice to the dev is one of pity. Ask for help. I get that it's his game, but his workflow is not working and all he'll be left with is burnout and angry people who once supported him.
- Aug 1, 2021
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no one cares about the code and if its messy or organized, if it works it works right?
true. hope the guy will manage that damage control of his, becuse nobody actually wants his project to fail.
- Oct 8, 2018
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This is the same sort of person who will then complain that bugs aren't being fixed when the dev has to work out what they were thinking when writing the code responsible. To put it simply, clean code means it's easier to add new features or fix bugs.
"If it works, it works" only works if you're under crunch to put something out the door, or are Todd Howard.
- Aug 1, 2021
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I beat cyberpunk on release, on a ps4
not once in my life have I complained about bugs so you can add that as another thing you were wrong about
no one gives a f about the code
you needa quit bein a retard
You obviously have no Idea about Coding nor programming which makes your comment even more hilarious.
- Nov 11, 2020
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Stop speaking for others.
The fact that you don't care about the code doesn't mean everybody else don't care neither.