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Ozygator

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I really don't understand this perspective... but I will say that there are plenty of reasons to cater to this niche. First and foremost, there are plenty of people willing to pay for this content and far less products to take their attention. Plus the idea of the content being optional and maybe even make it possible to turn off is definitely the way to go. It makes the game more versatile and gives people a less repetitive game and experience.
Hmm, typical pro-NTR viewpoint. Capturing the majority of an audience that is 25% of the size of the mainstream means you'd, at most get 25% share, where if you got a modest 30% of the much larger mainstream audience, means you'd have a much larger potential player base.

Catering to a niche of a niche (pro-NTR vs. general porn game players) may get a larger initial bump from that cash, but long term it's really cutting off your nose to spite your face, and poor planning if someone wants to make game development more of a income based alternative, unless they live in a very low living standard area.
 

Akifai

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Optional/non - optional isn't the problem. What most people have a problem with is the fact that you gotta make it, devote resources and spent time on it, thus meaning that if they don't go for the optional content, they miss out on some of the game and have a lesser (and smaller) overall experience
I'll just piggyback on this statement here because it exactly reflects an experience that I just recently had with a game called "Apartment #69." There is a major trans character in that game. You can choose to participate in the optional trans content, or not.

I'm not a fan of futa, or ntr content, but if a game has these contents, I like to compare, and contrast how the developer presents the scenes in relation to the story of the game itself. In the case of "Amartment #69," if you choose to ignore the trans content, the player will miss out on a lot of the narratives within the story itself.

A lot of the content related to this trans character will be simply skipped, not just the sexual scenes, but story related things as well. This character was written to be integral to the overall story, but is now just relegated to the interactions of "hi", and "bye." With that, my "overall experience" is definitely "lesser" when compared to someone who chose the futa route.

Look, the point of writing this is that I like your game. Do what you wanna do. Just keep in mind that the "lesser experience" is a very real thing. Hopefully, you will be able to not marginalize the players experience.
 

Llamamann

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I'll just piggyback on this statement here because it exactly reflects an experience that I just recently had with a game called "Apartment #69." There is a major trans character in that game. You can choose to participate in the optional trans content, or not.

I'm not a fan of futa, or ntr content, but if a game has these contents, I like to compare, and contrast how the developer presents the scenes in relation to the story of the game itself. In the case of "Amartment #69," if you choose to ignore the trans content, the player will miss out on a lot of the narratives within the story itself.

A lot of the content related to this trans character will be simply skipped, not just the sexual scenes, but story related things as well. This character was written to be integral to the overall story, but is now just relegated to the interactions of "hi", and "bye." With that, my "overall experience" is definitely "lesser" when compared to someone who chose the futa route.

Look, the point of writing this is that I like your game. Do what you wanna do. Just keep in mind that the "lesser experience" is a very real thing. Hopefully, you will be able to not marginalize the players experience.
nicely written, that is the main concern. the other is providing a narrative with no threat or consequence. you can only play "god mode" on GTA for so long before it gets boring. i think i can handle it in a good way, because until i drop 1.0 these are just content dumps. the main story has not even been shown yet, nor the progression of all these scenes. people are gonna have to try it for themselves and make a call.
 

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Don't make this mistake, you have a good thing going. Most people hate NTR and Futa content and they will look at the tags and leave, even if optional, I don't get why developers choose to put so much effort into these subjects, they are so niche in terms of fetishes, cater to the wider audience (mainstream) and you will see your popularity grow.
There is really nothing "mainstream" about much of what goes on here. Especially in regards to the subsection of people here losing their crap over seeing pixels have "NTR sex", and their many alternative accounts they sometimes make to try to stress their distaste of it by handed out as many facepalm emojis as possible. That's not "normal" or "mainstream" like behavior, or representative of any expected invested interest level you'd realistically expect to being generated from a fairly simple format fap game lol. The very large majority of which at that who are also never going to donate a dime to the endless amount of games they come here to steal for free.

The actual bigger mistake people make with NTR lies in the fact it's a lot harder for most people attempting to make these games to write in without entering too far into Cringeville, since most people making these games have next to zero writing skills to begin with. So for most, it's typically always better to stick to the more standard and KISS principle approach of leaving it out, and *not* exposing that lack of skill more then they absolutely need to.

Futa is likely a much bigger potential mainstream interest killer then that though. I mean it's one thing for let's say your user on Steam to click into the game he bought and downloaded because it had sex in it...and then sees game characters having sex. Kind of another to click into that sex game and stumble upon chicks with dicks.

Overall stance I do agree though that this game in particular probably ends shooting itself in the foot adding any of that, or trying to get too cute chasing fetish dollars instead of trying to keep the focus content a lot more straight forward simple. Especially since it's been a long while since I saw or noticed a "chase every fetish" game really go on to see any real larger scale success that crossed over into the mainstream money.
 
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FryisWiggles

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Started a new game.

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Looks like you implemented a relationship tag for the characters, but didn't implement a spot to name the variable.
It should be an easy fix

Edit: I was able to fix it with this command using unren if anyone has the same issue
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Belnick

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yea we had to create a new game or get random grey screen now and then.
I felt that the choices we made in the first version gave so much different scenes, while 0.2 it seem to be mom dildo suit/sister bj/sister dildo in all 5 paths?

and it does not matter which doll and which choice you go with, it always ending with the mom kiss?


weird, I had exact same problem, but when I started a new game i could write in relationships and it was fixed
 

Llamamann

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yea we had to create a new game or get random grey screen now and then.
I felt that the choices we made in the first version gave so much different scenes, while 0.2 it seem to be mom dildo suit/sister bj/sister dildo in all 5 paths?

and it does not matter which doll and which choice you go with, it always ending with the mom kiss?



weird, I had exact same problem, but when I started a new game i could write in relationships and it was fixed
Choices won’t matter until 1.0. I’m building the game content first then formatting amd structuring it
 
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Belnick

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Choices won’t matter until 1.0. I’m building the game content first then formatting amd structuring it
so from now on we don't have to check every path, just 1 path and try different choices in that 1 path?
so only 8 more updates to go :eek:
 

Llamamann

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so from now on we don't have to check every path, just 1 path and try different choices in that 1 path?
so only 8 more updates to go :eek:
its going to be one more content update, that will follow similar format of the last two, then im going to work on making the game play the way i want it to for the update after that. ill have to see if it becomes 1.0 or not. depends on how much im able to get done. but the game will start to take shape after the next one
 

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I'm enjoying the game at the moment, it's great, I just hope the NTR content is completely optional (no Hidden NTR shit, which some developers do, putting scenes to happen behind the scenes and just skipping scenes) and that NTR can easily be avoided, I'm tired of seeing games being spoiled with this kind of content and losing the fun with this shit, making the MC cuckold, cowardly and retarded.
 

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The only issue i can point out is inconsistency of facial features on some renders. The character can look like two different ones in one scene. That trows me off a bit. Otherwise game looks good, it start taking it's shape and i definitely want to see more, especilly the big bad robot mistress.:geek:
 
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canal mom

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Mr. developer , when dawnload your game i see only white screen and game crash (screen closed) . I want to enjoy your game but i cant !!!!! What i can do ?
 

Llamamann

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Mr. developer , when dawnload your game i see only white screen and game crash (screen closed) . I want to enjoy your game but i cant !!!!! What i can do ?
might have to wait for the actual public release if this one isnt working for you
 
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Always look forward to updates; one of the most exciting games in development, any chance in general or as a supporter we could get Alexa or the landlady to sit on the dildo? Loved the other hardcore fetish in the update with the hands
 
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ReyIvory

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Hmm, typical pro-NTR viewpoint. Capturing the majority of an audience that is 25% of the size of the mainstream means you'd, at most get 25% share, where if you got a modest 30% of the much larger mainstream audience, means you'd have a much larger potential player base.

Catering to a niche of a niche (pro-NTR vs. general porn game players) may get a larger initial bump from that cash, but long term it's really cutting off your nose to spite your face, and poor planning if someone wants to make game development more of a income based alternative, unless they live in a very low living standard area.
Lmao I love how the single fact that I don't care to block off others ability to enjoy the content they enjoy make s me pro-NTR. I just don't care about content that can be avoided or turned off. As long as I got enough content then I don't care at all.

Yea, I should get it going, ill let you know once i have an account :)
Awesome thanks!
 
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