VN Ren'Py Shadows of Ambition [Ch.4.5] [AbyssGames]

[Dealbreaker]

This is my first project and while I've improved quite a lot since the first release a couple months ago, I do realize I can and need to keep improving on all aspects.

I mean, the question of NTS for a moment aside, you already at this point have a comprehensive cast of distinct characters, distinct roles, everything is ready and prepared to be used. I often wonder in other games - why don't they make more of the personalities they made and effort to establish? I see tensions everywhere. But then all is only harmony and fun, nothing serious comes of it. Take Kate (or was it Sophie?) alone. She could dominate the hell out of Alice and make the MC her second cuck (just an example). Or the BBC of the game could for once not be on the winning side, let''s say he gets employed by oogle fans and gets in difficulties and dependencies there. There are so much possibilities.

 

[AbyssGames]

I mean, the question of NTS for a moment aside, you already at this point have a comprehensive cast of distinct characters, distinct roles, everything is ready and prepared to be used. I often wonder in other games - why don't they make more of the personalities they made and effort to establish? I see tensions everywhere. But then all is only harmony and fun, nothing serious comes of it. Take Kate alone. She could dominate the hell out of Alice and make the MC her second cuck (just an example). Or the BBC of the game could for once not be on the winning side, let''s say he gets employed by oogle fans and gets in difficulties and dependencies there. There are so much possibilities.

Good example. You say distinct and others say they are all the exact same. What you say about Kate is true! She definitely could... the bigger question or problem is, how do you make that... not forced? Luke meets Kate a couple of days in the story and is slowly uncovering what type of person she is, Things need to be set up in order for them to play out. At this point in the story, it would be rushed to put any type of domination scene in from Kate with Alice or Luke for that matter.
What I'm trying to set up is a scenario where people are eager to see something like that, they feel the buildup to it and they want to see it, obviously as soon as possible, but I need to adhere to the story I've created.

 

[Dealbreaker]

how do you make that... not forced?

You are the boss here, but my intuition would be: by not making them too friendly with each other in the first place. Maby this Rob, this cuck character and ex of Alice could develop resentment against the MC. The lingerie scene is hot, but it's not natural that the girls show so no animosities at all. Etc.
I can't remember to have seen a real break up recently in any game. Why?

 

[francesko5434]

this game is something else

 

[AbyssGames]

You are the boss here, but my intuition would be: by not making them too friendly with each other in the first place. Maby this Rob, this cuck character and ex of Alice could develop resentment against the MC. The lingerie scene is hot, but it's not natural that the girls show so no animosities at all. Etc.
I can't remember to have seen a real break up recently in any game. Why?

There has to be a certain amount of plot convenience too. I'm not trying to make this 1-1 with reality. It's a porn game at the end of the day. Alice is generally a nice person and Sophie... well... super slut. Also I don't want to spoil the future, but Kate can act really nice to Alice to win her trust to get back at Luke. If she controls Alice, she has a greater influence on Luke (potentially).
Regarding the break up, maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised then for the next update!

 

[Dealbreaker]

Now I'm curious. Let's see.

 

[AbyssGames]

my vote is judgment could be better if hypothetically Luke realizing that Alice is now lost, leaves her to accept Sara, who has shown more protective sense towards Luke, she is also the most serious girl, compared to the sluts, Alice was good now, in this update she lets herself fall, once you fall, you don't come back healthy, and honestly Alice is the one I hate in the game.

???
The game is about sharing... from both parties. Which was said at the START of the game. Why download and play a game in a genre you don't like? I don't play strategy games, because I don't like them. Should I start playing all of them and leave a 1 star review on them because I don't like strategy game and tell the dev he should make the game into something else I will enjoy? No. You don't like the game for... reasons I don't really understand, but don't come in here and tell me how I should develop MY game.

 

[skyrfen]

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[AbyssGames]

You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain. Couldn’t be more true. This thread has become an exact copy of MNGF, mostly for its controversial arguments lol.

 

[ViihX]

How far are we in her corruption?

I guess I will wait at least until the MC girlfriend is sucking other men dicks.

 

[PatreonTed]

Nyct X is like a wildcard factor, what's true about it and what isn't. Does it really corrupt people or as mentioned in the story and from the understanding from the MC, does it simply help remove the barrier that most people have "I probably shouldn't do that... Even though, deep down, I want to."

In the end, no matter what direction I take this game, it'll always be people who are upset that it's not following their vision and that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to please everyone and I will stick to my vision.

This is my first project and while I've improved quite a lot since the first release a couple months ago, I do realize I can and need to keep improving on all aspects.

I think the game is enjoyable and I love the art. If I was nitpicking the NYCT is a bit too close to 'deus ex machina' for me but I also recognize this is your first game, and a porn game, so you can't take forever to get where you're going because then everyone will whine say you're milking, etc. Looking forward to future updates.

Oh, other minor nitpick:

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[AbyssGames]

I think the game is enjoyable and I love the art. If I was nitpicking the NYCT is a bit too close to 'deus ex machina' for me but I also recognize this is your first game, and a porn game, so you can't take forever to get where you're going because then everyone will whine say you're milking, etc. Looking forward to future updates.

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There is meant to be but due to a team member falling sick and my grandmother passing away at the beginning of last week, I was a bit behind schedule with everything and I was only able to do half of the scene. If you look into the animation folder though, you’ll see there’s an animation not used, but will be included with the mini-chad release this week with the rest of the reclamation scene.

 

[PatreonTed]

There is meant to be but due to a team member falling sick and my grandmother passing away at the beginning of last week, I was a bit behind schedule with everything and I was only able to do half of the scene. If you look into the animation folder though, you’ll see there’s an animation not used, but will be included with the mini-chad release this week with the rest of the reclamation scene.

I'm of the opinion to delay things until fully done, but can understand releasing what you have given the way some people act (especially on this site).

 

[Karcosa]

Great update! every update the art is better, i really enjoy those types of "animations" too, they remind me of some questionable gachas i use to play lol it seems to be that is leaning a little bit onto the swinger side (this is me ofc, nothing wrong), but that doesnt take away that the game is really good and the dev is doing a really good job

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Am I remembering wrong, or did this update changing the office visit stuff? Maybe ive just played too many of these games and they blend together, but I swear he went to his new job and the office gave them all tasks....

 

[swiver]

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Make me little boy.

(Yes I changed the couch out to a more textured one...)

oh my! THANKS FOR MY NEW SUGNATURE! (if I may, I hope it's alright_)

Time to bully_ ehem, I mean campaign respectfully our favourite dev to ultimately when it's time not before it's all established and shit like planned to go for a SANDBOX format for this one!

Edit: what couch?

It's Netorase. Not NTR. As the MC, you get involved and are not a cuck, even though people like to think so.

I reckon this is a matter of terminology. You're taking cuck to primarily entail the victimisation aspect. It is fair, especially given the abundance of words that seem to be becoming specialised to other aspects. It does remind me though that in western porn, where the japanese terms are nonexistent, cuckold can cover everything sans swinging. It used to be the only word around beofer "hotwifing" cameabout. I distinctly remember a Dogfart interview with Katerina Jade and her irl guy, they into sharing etc. and called it "cuckold" made a point to say somethng to the effect of he isn't the sissy/weak/? kind, essentially NTS par excellence...

Even though I personally dislike the interracial stuff,

do you know what the immediate interpretation of that formulation is?

I’ve been playing H-games since the Hongfire and Anime-Sharing era, when most WEGs were basic flash games, and Japanese culture defined the genres that Western developers now try to emulate. So I can tell you’re genuinely concerned about creating a well-done and entertaining product that connects with players and meets their expectations.

unsarcastically: Thank you for the history lesson. I've been wondering about how/when/what the games were as the terms worked their way into english etc.

This sort of criticism reminds me of classical musical theorists screeching how revolutionary composers were ruining music. A type of mentality still common in music until today.

The argument to end all arguments...
Then again if that is the case I wouldn't compare it to Schönberg.

That's exacltyl what I_ I was having a flashback of fighting with my teacher after read abt these guys and tried explaining atonal theory to him 20years ago! Joleil was much kinder here though lol

Hope Luke grows a pair and tells Kate off for drugging his girlfriend, because that's fucked up.

Either you mean irl to which I object for policing our sex fantasies or you mean in game to which i say "tells off" would be a weak ass underreaction so I'm assuming you mean grow a pair to be stomped on?

 

[AbyssGames]

Am I remembering wrong, or did this update changing the office visit stuff? Maybe ive just played too many of these games and they blend together, but I swear he went to his new job and the office gave them all tasks....

I think you might be confusing it with something else

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I think you might be confusing it with something else

ah! right you are i mixed up with the office scene from port haven. Was definitely a great update here!

 

[SilverArrow]

Oh, this game is do good! Love it, like MNG. Question - is Nyct X based on sth real? Just curious...

 

[AbyssGames]

Oh, this game is do good! Love it, like MNG. Question - is Nyct X based on sth real? Just curious...

No, it's not based on something real.