HTML Shady Deals [v0.4.4] [Kroo]

[KrazyBob]

How are you supposed to fulfill component gigs, there's never a button or location?

 

[heehatatt]

Played through the entire game. Pretty impressive step ups since 2.0. Or maybe I'm just jaded by typical western hgame development timelines(longer than a person's natural lifespan probably).

I feel like dirty money is too difficult to wash, or too punishing to wash through the bikers. You get hundreds of phones and jewelries from your thieves, and you could go and make stolen goods or jewelry shipments..... or you could just go to the pawnshop and sell them for tens of thousands of dollars of clean money. Honestly just your thieves alone+thief gang focus+pawnshop seems to overshadow practically any form of dirty money revenue. I think washing needs to be faster and/or less punishing with the bikers. Also perhaps an option to use dirty money without cleaning it, with a chance of repercussions depending on what sort of transaction it is. Buying some of the cheaper clothes or some drugs from dealers ought to be fine, but buying property with it could open you up to consequences.

 

[heehatatt]

Also gotta say that "act 2," when your gang has properly formed, needs more porn, waaaaay more porn. Maybe there can be tiers to the gloryhole and to the strip club, just like there are with the clothing shops. New scenes and more stat increases.

 

[Kroo]

How are you supposed to fulfill component gigs, there's never a button or location?

You can get some from "Hardware Engineer" NPCs, buy an unlimited amount straight from the mall, get them as additional loot from the "Gather Materials" heist, steal them from downtown or the suburbs during a burglary, or your thieves can fetch some for you. The button will appear once you have enough of them in your inventory.

I feel like dirty money is too difficult to wash, or too punishing to wash through the bikers. You get hundreds of phones and jewelries from your thieves, and you could go and make stolen goods or jewelry shipments..... or you could just go to the pawnshop and sell them for tens of thousands of dollars of clean money. Honestly just your thieves alone+thief gang focus+pawnshop seems to overshadow practically any form of dirty money revenue. I think washing needs to be faster and/or less punishing with the bikers. Also perhaps an option to use dirty money without cleaning it, with a chance of repercussions depending on what sort of transaction it is. Buying some of the cheaper clothes or some drugs from dealers ought to be fine, but buying property with it could open you up to consequences.

Thanks for the feedback!
Well, laundering through bikers is supposed to be a last resort - the least cost-effective option, only if you need money asap and yada yada yada - because it has no limits. Laundering money through other means will give you $1 for every $1. But yeah, I got you. I was anyway planning to mostly add more ways to launder and earn dirty money in the upcoming updates, there's already enough ways to get clean cash.

Also gotta say that "act 2," when your gang has properly formed, needs more porn, waaaaay more porn. Maybe there can be tiers to the gloryhole and to the strip club, just like there are with the clothing shops. New scenes and more stat increases.

Idk, I doubt i'll expand on content that's not really a main profitmakers for established characters. Well, maybe a gloryhole as an upgrade for your nightclub, hmmm. But overall, i'll just focus on adding more things to do in "act 2" and more jobs that become accessible later on, like the brothel, nightclub, or 404 bleach.

 

[heehatatt]

Thanks for the feedback!
Well, laundering through bikers is supposed to be a last resort - the least cost-effective option, only if you need money asap and yada yada yada - because it has no limits. Laundering money through other means will give you $1 for every $1. But yeah, I got you. I was anyway planning to mostly add more ways to launder and earn dirty money in the upcoming updates, there's already enough ways to get clean cash.

Here's a screen of where I'm at, at pretty much the end of the game, though I've been sitting on 450k of dirty cash for probably around 2 in game weeks. I pretty much stopped doing dirty money stuff. The difference between the rate it can be cleaned vs the rate at which you can earn it is big.

I'm maxed out on available cleaning besides crypto farms, of which I only have 5. I suppose with all 50 that would be an additional 4500/day cleaned, but still even then I feel like it'd be slow to wash considering the costs of late game clothes and upgrades and properties. My coin washers are 9,11,12 combat, and all the girls working at 404 Bleach are 8+.

 

[KrazyBob]

The button will appear once you have enough of them in your inventory.

I figured it should, but it doesn't. Gun gigs seem to pop a button fine though.

 

[Kroo]

Here's a screen of where I'm at, at pretty much the end of the game, though I've been sitting on 450k of dirty cash for probably around 2 in game weeks. I pretty much stopped doing dirty money stuff. The difference between the rate it can be cleaned vs the rate at which you can earn it is big.

I'm maxed out on available cleaning besides crypto farms, of which I only have 5. I suppose with all 50 that would be an additional 4500/day cleaned, but still even then I feel like it'd be slow to wash considering the costs of late game clothes and upgrades and properties. My coin washers are 9,11,12 combat, and all the girls working at 404 Bleach are 8+.

Hmmmright. I’ll probably buff coin washers as a bandaid fix for the time being. Thanks, i'll think about it.

I figured it should, but it doesn't. Gun gigs seem to pop a button fine though.

Oh, i had labeled electrical components as a 'material', so the game was looking in the crafting inventory. Thanks - fixed.

 

[KingMooMoo]

I am pleasantly surprised with this.
I wish you could still hangout with friends when they join your gang, maybe flesh it out more after they join too?

 

[Terakahn]

Sorry if this is a lot of stuff. Just posting at I'm playing.

So I'm starting the new update. Like the pc ui so far. The cam stuff looks new to me. New stats menu too. Wait are all the menus improved? I like this a lot.

Can we get more info about weapons before buying them?
When you post a video the screen just goes black. Is that intended?
It would be cool if there were new outfits at every reputation level.
Is there any purpose to your stash instead of keeping everything on you?
It seems like it's really hard to raise cunning past a certain point. Combat had the underground ring and charm is always high for me.
The giggles jobs seem like they don't change every day even after completing them. It is supposed to?
I like that you get combat xp for losing.
When buying items in shop would be really nice if we could select quantity instead of hitting buy 20 times.
Is there a place in the menu I can check my heat? I expected it to be in stats.
A way to increase max energy would be nice. Feels like it runs out too fast.
Cumshot at the end of the invite over scene seems to still not be working.

Can't seem to figure out how to do heists either. Maybe I just don't understand how some of these mechanics or triggers work.

 

[gabyac87]

Is possible to add options to recover energy like naps or energy drinks?

Great game, keep it up.

 

[KingMooMoo]

Sorry if this is a lot of stuff. Just posting at I'm playing.

So I'm starting the new update. Like the pc ui so far. The cam stuff looks new to me. New stats menu too. Wait are all the menus improved? I like this a lot.

Can we get more info about weapons before buying them?
When you post a video the screen just goes black. Is that intended?
It would be cool if there were new outfits at every reputation level.
Is there any purpose to your stash instead of keeping everything on you?
It seems like it's really hard to raise cunning past a certain point. Combat had the underground ring and charm is always high for me.
The giggles jobs seem like they don't change every day even after completing them. It is supposed to?
I like that you get combat xp for losing.
When buying items in shop would be really nice if we could select quantity instead of hitting buy 20 times.
Is there a place in the menu I can check my heat? I expected it to be in stats.
A way to increase max energy would be nice. Feels like it runs out too fast.
Cumshot at the end of the invite over scene seems to still not be working.

Can't seem to figure out how to do heists either. Maybe I just don't understand how some of these mechanics or triggers work.

From what I've seen so far:

You can see heat on the whiteboard in your house.
Going to the gym and gaining the fitness trait gives you more energy, it's just not clearly shown on the UI.
Heists are triggered in the basement and need crew assigned to it and some special conditions have to be met.

 

[Alex964]

6. Have at least three pistols in reserve ("Block 19")... I have four pistols but the sixth point is not closed (i.e. not completed) why?

 

[somenew23]

i don't understand how to capture a turf , a hostile gang ( in a war state) hawe 2500 power and dosent goind less than that i have gang power around 3000 maybe 3000 and some , but capturing process is still 0 and nothing to do with it

 

[Kroo]

I am pleasantly surprised with this.
I wish you could still hangout with friends when they join your gang, maybe flesh it out more after they join too?

I was thinking of adding this in version 0.5, buuut ended up realizing that I’m not sure what it would be for, aside from RP or fluff reasons. So for now I’m ignoring it - I’ll probably throw it in once I get to the more gimmicky stuff that’s not exactly essential.

Can we get more info about weapons before buying them?

Sure.

When you post a video the screen just goes black. Is that intended?

Eh, it's a passage update so you can check out all the new variables. But yeah, I should probably make the PC a sticky.

It would be cool if there were new outfits at every reputation level.

Same problem as with gang members interaction - fluff stuff that does nothing and requires a plenty of time. I'll work on that later.

It seems like it's really hard to raise cunning past a certain point. Combat had the underground ring and charm is always high for me.

You can increase your cunning

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- that's enough to successfully pass all cun checks in the game. I don't want to overbloat the game with stat boosts... at least for now. I'll add more when there's a reason for it.

The giggles jobs seem like they don't change every day even after completing them. It is supposed to?

Yep, they only change once every three days - it’s mentioned on their page.

When buying items in shop would be really nice if we could select quantity instead of hitting buy 20 times.

O, that's another oversight from me. Will change it.

Is there a place in the menu I can check my heat? I expected it to be in stats.

Only on the whiteboard for now, yeah... And the scout will give you info about the exact amount of heat. In the next update, you'll get a small UI element that notifies you about the approx heat level.

A way to increase max energy would be nice. Feels like it runs out too fast.

The most expensive car, the chauffeur, and fitness perks all provide you with additional energy.

Cumshot at the end of the invite over scene seems to still not be working.

THATS WEIRD, i checked it a few times before "fixing". Thanks, i'll look at it again...

Can't seem to figure out how to do heists either. Maybe I just don't understand how some of these mechanics or triggers work.

You need to have an active right hand and start the preparations in your basement. But yeah, the UI could be muuuuch better and offer more streamlined explanations for everything. I'm working on it...

Is possible to add options to recover energy like naps or energy drinks?

I think adding a way to restore energy would ruin the whole point of the energy system. People would just spam naps or energy drinks, and it’d end up being pointless busywork. Honestly, if there’s an easy way to restore energy, you might as well remove it entirely just to avoid annoying players, imho.

6. Have at least three pistols in reserve ("Block 19")... I have four pistols but the sixth point is not closed (i.e. not completed) why?

You need to have them in your stash. You can find access to your stash in your bedroom. I'll a better explanation about it.

i don't understand how to capture a turf , a hostile gang ( in a war state) hawe 2500 power and dosent goind less than that i have gang power around 3000 maybe 3000 and some , but capturing process is still 0 and nothing to do with it

There's a weird bug that sometimes freezes the capture progress, sorry, i'm trying to track it down... For now, try signing a peace truce and then declaring war again once your gang has more power than the enemy. That should fix it. By default, you gain +1%/day progress for every 15 points of gang strength over the opposing gang.

 

[Terakahn]

From what I've seen so far:

You can see heat on the whiteboard in your house.
Going to the gym and gaining the fitness trait gives you more energy, it's just not clearly shown on the UI.
Heists are triggered in the basement and need crew assigned to it and some special conditions have to be met.

I edited out the stat comments, since I think I need to explore that more based on the dev's comments. I had no idea chauffeur or a car made a difference, I always have 4 cans of energy, so I thought it just stayed the same the entire duration of the game. Do activities end up taking less energy? It always seemed to take one full bar each time I did something.

I did figure it out. For some of them anyway. Heists are started from the basement, there's a button at the very bottom. I started tax evasion but then nothing happened, so I don't know if its a set time I have to wait. I couldn't do the first heist because I'm supposed to get info from a bank employee and I couldn't find a way to do that. But I did the cartel warehouse robbery one.

I did have an easier time figuring out how to start a gang, and progressing to that point, but there are so many new mechanics after that, that I just kind of got confused about what to do. The heat mechanic seemed to just make it more complicated. And I couldn't see if any of the heat actually mattered.

The red phone does tell you how to increase some skills, but the only things it tells me to do now are heists (Which really can't be done that often due to resource cost), keeping enterprises popular (Not sure how to do this, the club costs 150k, is that it? or the brothel too later?), and work on my heat (Not sure what stat this helps with). Maybe some of the guide things are just not there, like the underground training seemed to work.

I feel like I need a guide to all the gang activities you can do with the different gang positions. A lot of them interact with heat in some way, but I can't figure out a good way to earn money that doesn't involve me just fighting people. Actually fighting people seemed to be like the best way to earn money. I was earning 3-5k per fight, and its way way faster than doing shipments. And its clean money. Maybe this'll change as I unlock later things. I don't know what the intended route is for that, setting up 20 coin farms and then finding ways to get passive dirty money maybe? I'm not sure.

So the new outfits at each rep level, the goal here would be to have more stats spread across the levels. Like as you gain rep you get access to more stylish or more revealing or both, clothing items. Where as in the beginning you only really have things up to a little daring. Basically more control over how your character is perceived clothing wise would be nice as you progress and gain more influence. I definitely don't want fluff filler that serves no purpose.

Are there stat checks that you can't pass if you don't start with a certain amount at th ebeginning?
Also, I was playing on 4.3 I'll try 4.4 and see if the bugs are fixed there.

 

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[gabyac87]

I think adding a way to restore energy would ruin the whole point of the energy system. People would just spam naps or energy drinks, and it’d end up being pointless busywork. Honestly, if there’s an easy way to restore energy, you might as well remove it entirely just to avoid annoying players, imho.

I was thinking that maybe can activate naps between 14 to 17 (or 16 hs), and restore only 1 action point.

 

[Terakahn]

There isn't really a penalty as far as I can tell, by just going to sleep earlier. So if you're out of energy just go to bed.

 

[SizeQueenShrine]

I really like it. Just got hands on my gang and I'm currently learning how gang management works. Turf wars as game idea are cool stuff. Reminds me a bit of "Spoils of War" series.

 

[Kroo]

I edited out the stat comments, since I think I need to explore that more based on the dev's comments. I had no idea chauffeur or a car made a difference, I always have 4 cans of energy, so I thought it just stayed the same the entire duration of the game. Do activities end up taking less energy? It always seemed to take one full bar each time I did something.

You just straight up get more action points - that's it. The cost of actions stays the same.
Also, I forgot - upgrading the gym in your house increases your max energy too. Aaand the "Crime Legend" boss type gives you 4 additional stamina points. So yeah...

and work on my heat (Not sure what stat this helps with)

As for heat """hint""" - just trigger your first heat event and you'll unlock a new job. And this job will help you a lot with heat control. I’ve rewritten this hint in the next version; it was indeed a quite unclear.

На доске остался только седьмой элемент. Но...
1. Как набрать людей в свою банду (у меня уже около 25 знакомых среди воров и бандитов)?
2. Как продать золотые слитки (они просто пропадают в ломбарде и никто за них денег не дает)?

1. Raise your relationship with them, then ask them to assist you.
2. You'll find a character who buys gold bars in your nightclub once it's popular enough.

I really like it. Just got hands on my gang and I'm currently learning how gang management works. Turf wars as game idea are cool stuff. Reminds me a bit of "Spoils of War" series.

Thanks! Well, turf war is currently the weakest part of the game, but I hope to improve it soon.

In the meantime, v0.5 is out on patreon, if anyone's interested.