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is the scene avoidable or skippable
Let's say the LI in question has 5 paths. In 4 of these paths, the scene doesn’t exist in the story (I'm not sure if you consider that "avoidable").
For the remaining path, where the player treats the LI poorly, the player will understand that the LI kisses another girl, and whether they choose to watch or not, the scene will remain in the story for that path.
Moreover, to treat the LI poorly, the player will have to do it twice. As I said, your choices lead to your consequences :)

It's like any voyeurism scene—for example, if you stumble upon a couple fucking in a park, whether you choose to watch or not, the scene still exists. The difference here is that your choices give you have the possibility for it to exist or not
 

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Let's say the LI in question has 5 paths. In 4 of these paths, the scene doesn’t exist in the story (I'm not sure if you consider that "avoidable").
For the remaining path, where the player treats the LI poorly, the player will understand that the LI kisses another girl, and whether they choose to watch or not, the scene will remain in the story for that path.
Moreover, to treat the LI poorly, the player will have to do it twice. As I said, your choices lead to your consequences :)

It's like any voyeurism scene—for example, if you stumble upon a couple fucking in a park, whether you choose to watch or not, the scene still exists. The difference here is that your choices give you have the possibility for it to exist or not
o damn looks like I got to set up more saves once I figure what LI that is lol. Especially cause I never treat a LI poorly haha
 
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New status update about version 0.3 available !
 
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I was disappointed with the main character within the first 5-10 minutes of the start of the story.

First, he doesn't care about his lover's pleasure and is so selfish (and/or ignorant/stupid if he believes his only way of giving a woman an orgasm is by using his dick) that he couldn't be bothered to either offer or attempt to give her an orgasm. This promotes the stereotype towards men that they don't care about their partners and are only worried about getting themselves off.

Second, despite formerly being an elite athlete he is foolish enough to smoke cigarettes at his young age. Many people have loved ones (my mother in my case) who suffered for long periods of time, and in many cases died, from cancer caused by cigarette smoke and the 'treatments' (that are in many ways more horrible than the disease itself) used to try to cure this terrible disease.

I know that cigarettes can be very addictive and I'm not trying to guilt long-term smokers. The reason I mention this is because the game is fictional fantasy so it seems irresponsible making MC a smoker. Does the benefit of having MC smoke cigarettes in the game outweigh the potential social/ethical/economic impact of promoting cigarettes and enticing other people to start smoking (by indirectly giving free advertising to tobacco companies that are unable to legally purchase ads in many countries due to ethical concerns)?

Definitely not a good first impression of the MC or the game.... I'm not going to mention it again but it is something for people to consider.
 
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Definitely not a good first impression of the MC or the game.... I'm not going to mention it again but it is something for people to consider.
I have completed my consideration. Not a good impression for someone on a pirate site to porn game to be claiming moral high ground on male stereotype and cigarettes. This is a porn game, it really isn't trying to send any strong moral message to the world.
 

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I was disappointed with the main character within the first 5-10 minutes of the start of the story.

First, he doesn't care about his lover's pleasure and is so selfish (and/or ignorant/stupid if he believes his only way of giving a woman an orgasm is by using his dick) that he couldn't be bothered to either offer or attempt to give her an orgasm. This promotes the stereotype towards men that they don't care about their partners and are only worried about getting themselves off.

Second, despite formerly being an elite athlete he is foolish enough to smoke cigarettes at his young age. Many people have loved ones (my mother in my case) who suffered for long periods of time, and in many cases died, from cancer caused by cigarette smoke and the 'treatments' (that are in many ways more horrible than the disease itself) used to try to cure this terrible disease.

I know that cigarettes can be very addictive and I'm not trying to guilt long-term smokers. The reason I mention this is because the game is fictional fantasy so it seems irresponsible making MC a smoker. Does the benefit of having MC smoke cigarettes in the game outweigh the potential social/ethical/economic impact of promoting cigarettes and enticing other people to start smoking (by indirectly giving free advertising to tobacco companies that are unable to legally purchase ads in many countries due to ethical concerns)?

Definitely not a good first impression of the MC or the game.... I'm not going to mention it again but it is something for people to consider.
He wouldn't have been smoking cigarettes while playing sport. It's something that he picked up after he saw his dreams go down the drain. I saw it more as a "what the fuck, my life is over, who cares, I'm just going to do what I want."

Perhaps, as a result of moving into a successful relationship with one of the LIs and start giving his life meaning and purpose again, the cigarettes might be something he gives up. ?
 

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I have completed my consideration. Not a good impression for someone on a pirate site to porn game to be claiming moral high ground on male stereotype and cigarettes. This is a porn game, it really isn't trying to send any strong moral message to the world.
I'm sorry you felt threatened, but there's no need to get defensive or to build strawmen because I'm not claiming moral high ground. I mostly wanted to take the opportunity to build awareness of some of the consequences of smoking cigarettes.
 

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I mostly wanted to take the opportunity to build awareness of some of the consequences of smoking cigarettes.
I appreciate you have good intention, but do you honestly think that a porn game is really promoting cigarettes and enticing other people to start smoking (by indirectly giving free advertising to tobacco companies that are unable to legally purchase ads in many countries due to ethical concerns) just by having a character smoking cigarettes?

There is a massive difference between "promoting something" and "just doing something". Not everything that you do is promoting something. If you drink wine, it doesn't mean you're promoting alcoholism. If there is a car chase scene, it doesn't mean it's promoting to drive recklessly.

I'm not claiming moral high ground.
The reason why I said you're claiming moral high ground is because you said "Does the benefit of having MC smoke cigarettes in the game outweigh the potential social/ethical/economic impact of promoting cigarettes and enticing other people to start smoking". The value of social and ethical impact is based on your morality, and you put one above the other while being very clear which side you stand on.
 

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I was disappointed with the main character within the first 5-10 minutes of the start of the story.

First, he doesn't care about his lover's pleasure and is so selfish (and/or ignorant/stupid if he believes his only way of giving a woman an orgasm is by using his dick) that he couldn't be bothered to either offer or attempt to give her an orgasm. This promotes the stereotype towards men that they don't care about their partners and are only worried about getting themselves off.
to consider.

Second, despite formerly being an elite athlete he is foolish enough to smoke cigarettes at his young age. Many people have loved ones (my mother in my case) who suffered for long periods of time, and in many cases died, from cancer caused by cigarette smoke and the 'treatments' (that are in many ways more horrible than the disease itself) used to try to cure this terrible disease.

I know that cigarettes can be very addictive and I'm not trying to guilt long-term smokers. The reason I mention this is because the game is fictional fantasy so it seems irresponsible making MC a smoker. Does the benefit of having MC smoke cigarettes in the game outweigh the potential social/ethical/economic impact of promoting cigarettes and enticing other people to start smoking (by indirectly giving free advertising to tobacco companies that are unable to legally purchase ads in many countries due to ethical concerns)?

Definitely not a good first impression of the MC or the game.... I'm not going to mention it again but it is something for people to consider.
A main character is meant to evolve—if he starts the story as a perfect man, with no flaws in his relationships and a perfectly healthy body and mind, then what’s the point of following his journey?

Every fictional character (and even real people) have flaws. Even Marvel superheroes have their flaws, so why criticize this aspect?

The MC is selfish with his booty call? If the story is well-written, won’t he have the opportunity to change? The same applies to smoking or other flaws. Or maybe he’ll change for the worse depending on the player’s choices.

Also, I’m sorry about your mother, but this is not a fantasy fiction—it’s just fiction, not fantasy. This isn’t a Disney world or a fairytale-like Barbie universe where everyone is perfect and never makes mistakes.

I think you misunderstood the premise of the story. It leans more toward reality, and unfortunately, people are far from perfect.
An ex-athlete who smokes? Some real-life athletes smoke everyday and night before a match.
Humans are full of contradictions—it’s nothing new.

This is a porn game, it really isn't trying to send any strong moral message to the world.
Ultimately, I don’t want my game to be just a porn game—I want it to be, above all, a story, an adventure.

I’m well aware that 95% of people on this forum will come for the adult content, but that’s not my goal for the game.
If I just wanted to make a porn game, I would have gone with a harem setup and LIs that fit the 'hot' criteria here (big breasts and big ass).

Am I trying to push a moral lesson? Not really. I don’t want to say : "Be careful! If you do bad things, you’ll be a bad guy!!"
Instead, I want to make players think—about their actions, their consequences, and the difficult choices they have to make.

Maybe I’m being too ambitious with this idea. Maybe I should just settle for making a hot porn game—but I know I wouldn’t enjoy that.
 

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I’m well aware that 95% of people on this forum will come for the adult content, but that’s not my goal for the game.
If I just wanted to make a porn game, I would have gone with a harem setup and LIs that fit the 'hot' criteria here (big breasts and big ass).
This is why I love this game. I love it when dev's don't make their game about the porn even if it's an AVN. I enjoy those AVN's a bit more and generally get into them and character more to. They tend to be the games I look forward to updates the most. While games more on the porn side I play for variety and generally forget about and never think about them unless I happen to see it has been updated , expect for a rare few.
 

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This is why I love this game. I love it when dev's don't make their game about the porn even if it's an AVN. I enjoy those AVN's a bit more and generally get into them and character more to. They tend to be the games I look forward to updates the most. While games more on the porn side I play for variety and generally forget about and never think about them unless I happen to see it has been updated , expect for a rare few.
Exactly. I love variety. I don't get that some people will only play a game if it has a milf, or only if incest, or only harem. I play all sorts and get bored if I'm just seeing the same thing over and over. But, solo romance paths are my favorite (and I don't mind doing multiple paths for all the LIs to my liking).
 

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I'm making myself a spreadsheet of AVN's I plan to buy on steam at some point ( got to many AAA / AA games on my wishlist lol). I was curious is steam ever going to be a future plan for this title . Just curious as this is one of my new favorite games I look forward to updates
 
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I'm making myself a spreadsheet of AVN's I plan to buy on steam at some point ( got to many AAA / AA games on my wishlist lol). I was curious is steam ever going to be a future plan for this title . Just curious as this is one of my new favorite games I look forward to updates
Steam is definitely part of the plan for the future, and you'll get information sooner than you think :)
 

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Overview:
Once a young basketball prodigy
destined for the NBA, your dream was shattered by an injury.
Three years later, living with your gambling-addict father and bouncing between dead-end jobs is pushing you further into a suffocating situation with no way out in sight.
But your uncle gets you a job at a renowned music entertainment agency, giving you some room to breathe—until a encounter with a pressured superstar threatens to upend everything in your life.
Your choices will shape your story, and only you will decide the kind of decisions you’ll make with the girls, the enemies, and the allies you’ll encounter in Shattered Dreams.
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I was disappointed with the main character within the first 5-10 minutes of the start of the story.

First, he doesn't care about his lover's pleasure and is so selfish (and/or ignorant/stupid if he believes his only way of giving a woman an orgasm is by using his dick) that he couldn't be bothered to either offer or attempt to give her an orgasm. This promotes the stereotype towards men that they don't care about their partners and are only worried about getting themselves off.

Second, despite formerly being an elite athlete he is foolish enough to smoke cigarettes at his young age. Many people have loved ones (my mother in my case) who suffered for long periods of time, and in many cases died, from cancer caused by cigarette smoke and the 'treatments' (that are in many ways more horrible than the disease itself) used to try to cure this terrible disease.

I know that cigarettes can be very addictive and I'm not trying to guilt long-term smokers. The reason I mention this is because the game is fictional fantasy so it seems irresponsible making MC a smoker. Does the benefit of having MC smoke cigarettes in the game outweigh the potential social/ethical/economic impact of promoting cigarettes and enticing other people to start smoking (by indirectly giving free advertising to tobacco companies that are unable to legally purchase ads in many countries due to ethical concerns)?

Definitely not a good first impression of the MC or the game.... I'm not going to mention it again but it is something for people to consider.
First of all; it's a fictional story so don't expect realism in it except when the story claims to be realistic.

second; Who cares about a fictional character that smokes? It's not as if they (or you) can get virtual lung cancer or anything.

Third: if you say that a smoking mc will lead others IRL to smoke, then what about GTA? Will that lead to more auto thefts, crime and murder? What about Call of Duty, will that lead to more people joining the army and killing others? I could go on and on, this is just bullshit. Yes I agree if smoking is marketed everywhere, then sure there are some who will buy it because of the advertisements, but not all. It's already abnormal to be a smoker, I don't need to be called terrorist just because I like to smoke (weed).

I'm just getting sick and tired of people bitching and moaning about smoking. I KNOW ITS BAD, I'M STILL DOING IT AND I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. It's a free country and if I want to commit suicide in an extremely slow way, that's my prerogative, "my body, my choice", right? -end of rant-
 
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