Ren'Py Shattered Minds [v0.15 Hotfix02] [eXtasy Games]

[Juerhullycin]

no. we have some real world confirmation how MC powers work. at the moment suggestion, corruption and enslaving. {i mean, the MC actually use them} and until now there isn't any discrepance about their work and ava explanation of them.

yes there is a possibility ava is hiding some power the MC have, or she is twisting their actual scope and form of MC powers. but this don't mean everything she said was false

the MC can mind wipe people, and his power are developing. we don't know if the MC power kit don't include a "mind pop" sort of power. he is slowly unlocking them.



no, we know ava isn't in control of everything. she need to use MC naive to put him in a thigh spot to force him to let her take over is body. if she was full in control, for real, she never needed to use underhanded ways to take control, nor she need to relinquish the body control to MC mind after escaping from the fed and brainwashing the agent.

EDIT: the dna test done by the fed agent show the MC had power, his father posses similar powers, and we (players) know that from a dialouge between the agents, so it's totally unrelated to ava. the MC have power, and they were suppressed when the fed take him in custody.
but they don't know about ava, and the fact her power aren't blocked when MC power are.

you cant rely on any of that because MCs mind is compromised so anything we/he know/s could be and needs to be seen as a lie

 

[Fulminato]

you cant rely on any of that because MCs mind is compromised so anything we/he know/s could be and needs to be seen as a lie

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anyone?
don't add any uncessary element not needed to explain the event.

MC power description fit the story, ava explanation fit the story.
for sure ava is a

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, but this not mean everything she said is false, but you need at least another source to validate whatever she said.

and we have that for a siezable amount things ava said.

 

[Bronzescorpion]

Wow, your reading comprehension is piss poor. You completely missed what was being said most of the time.

btw there are countless explanations of 'third wall' theory

No, there isn't actually, hence why I stated it wasn't widely spread.

just because a term is not "widely" accepted doesn't meant its not true/correct and there are whole lot of differences about many things, people just keep arguing about pointless stuff, take this discussion as an example. also there can't be a forth wall without third wall...

If a term isn't widely accepted, then it has little to no use, until people agree on the term. Furthermore there already is a third wall, which is either left or right of the stage, it is a literal wall, not an imaginary as the fourth. Some people are trying to change the meaning of the third, which is messing up the definition of the fourth, so one should be careful accepting this change.

Dude i am not and Ava is "indirectly" addressing the audience and that's exactly what i said and just fyi it would be breaking forth wall if she was addressing the audience directly.

Firstly that is not addressing the medium, which your own source claim what a third wall break is. Secondly she isn't addressing the audience indirectly (using quotation marks here doesn't make any sense) and you can't just state that she does. The burden of proof is on you, since I can't prove a negative.

and suddenly she is not in a game? also how can a game character acknowledge they are in a game without breaking a wall or two?

This is literally your own source's definition of a third wall break, to acknowledge the medium. It is the very thing we are discussing and you are confused by it. Furthermore I never said that she isn't in a game, I stated that she doesn't acknowledge it.

I know that you said you put me on ignore and likely won't see this message, but I wrote it anyway to set the record straight and for everybody else to see.

 

[comacchio]

Congratz for the release eXtasy Games !! You told will be out in february and you made it!! That's the reliability that you already showed in your first game! I wishe much more success with this one

P.S: Told you about some unreasonble players in this site, right?

I'm going to give this one a miss for the rest of the year. The updates take a long before getting released and there are far too many (NOT YET INCLUDED). I have nothing against the game persé, I just prefer doing as much of my grinding on one day, at least then I'll make some progress. Art work is very good by the way,

 

[Bronzescorpion]

The updates take a long before getting released

In what world is around 2 months long? You seem to have no clue how long it takes to develop a game.

You are an example of one of those unreasonable players lipe was talking about.

 

[HomicidalHulk]

MC's Internal Monologue: No need to break her will. She is already falling for me.
Me: BREAK HER WILL ANYWAY!
just saying

 

[Cooling Prob]

where do you control the cheat options?

 

[kzk0987]

MC's Internal Monologue: No need to break her will. She is already falling for me.
Me: BREAK HER WILL ANYWAY!
just saying

I get the sentiment, not sure what so many mind control games have against mind control.

Edit: That said I think this game isn't such case, it just takes a different approach to things. Though I AM still bothered by the MC not enslaving everyone he can get away with.

 

[cheavane]

I saw that someone made a mod, but it wasn't quite what I wanted so I made my own.

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its not working for me

 

[cheavane]

where do you control the cheat options?

i m asking the same question if you find out plz let me know

 

[ラMr Shadow悪]

Gym's new girls #1: June


As revealed in the last Dev Update, V0.12 will introduce a big new location, the gym, containing six new girls. June is the first new girl I want to introduce to you!

June works at the gym's reception and in the back office. It is she who oversees everything and makes sure the gym runs smoothly.

On your first visit, she will give you a tour of the gym.

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[Artipoggu]

I want to see more of bill transformation next patch. There are rare mind-control genderbender games and this seems to be the one trend I want to see being in the game now. Keep up the trend!

 

[Bronzescorpion]

I want to see more of bill transformation next patch. There are rare mind-control genderbender games and this seems to be the one trend I want to see being in the game now. Keep up the trend!

Alice is going to be the focus of the next patch.

 

[MrHatIsHere]

I think the twist with Ava should really be removed from the game, because it is revealed that you are not actually building a harem, but literally destroying yourself. Even if there is a later story development at some indeterminate point that may or may not be developed, so far, this is what is happening in the game.

So you can reveal new girls and so forth, but what is really happening is a continuation of your character's unknowing destruction of his own mind.

If you look at similar games with similar story ambitions, they often just end up getting stuck and abandoned. And in this case, it is taking a game which was essentially based on power fantasy and making the player helpless, because the player character doesn't even know he's dooming himself.

 

[Fulminato]

I think the twist with Ava should really be removed from the game, because it is revealed that you are not actually building a harem, but literally destroying yourself. Even if there is a later story development at some indeterminate point that may or may not be developed, so far, this is what is happening in the game.

So you can reveal new girls and so forth, but what is really happening is a continuation of your character's unknowing destruction of his own mind.

If you look at similar games with similar story ambitions, they often just end up getting stuck and abandoned. And in this case, it is taking a game which was essentially based on power fantasy and making the player helpless, because the player character doesn't even know he's dooming himself.

you mean a boring and uninteresting story? yea. without any serious antagonist is what you got.
the dev had said it will never switch from a mind controlling game in a mind controlled game (it's a honest fear, after the last update). and i trust him.

having the MC find a way to turn the table with ava will be interesting, because for now, she had the absolute upper hand.

 

[Bronzescorpion]

If you look at similar games with similar story ambitions, they often just end up getting stuck and abandoned.

Bit of a false conclusion you arrived to here. Many games on this site gets abandoned regardless of their level of ambition in the story. Unless you can show a link between ambition and abandonment, this is nothing more than you speculating what might happen with little to no merit.

 

[graverobber]

you mean a boring and uninteresting story? yea. without any serious antagonist is what you got.
the dev had said it will never switch from a mind controlling game in a mind controlled game (it's a honest fear, after the last update). and i trust him.

having the MC find a way to turn the table with ava will be interesting, because for now, she had the absolute upper hand.

"boring and uninteresting story"
1. thats your opinion
2. that implies you found the game prior to the ava event "boring and uninteresting"

"without any serious antagonist"
1. you do not need any kind of antagonist in a mind control game
2. you do remember this is a porn game right?

"the dev had said it will never switch from a mind controlling game in a mind controlled game"
that is literally what happened in the last ava update, it being a (apparent) temporary state doesn't change the fact that it happened

"and i trust him"
1. why?
2. "will never switch" a temporary switch is still a switch

"having the MC find a way to turn the table with ava will be interesting"
i agree but it should not be left up in air for the foreseeable future because it goes against the core appeal of the mind control kink which is that of a power fantasy, as a result people who love mind control porn games (aka ME) are not given much incentive to continue playing, it should have wraped up the switch in power a the end of the event (possibly with the implied threat of future attempts by eva & the mc having to do something about stoping her being able to do so), that way it would not deter players who love mind control (aka the main kink & draw of the game) from continuing with future versions

 

[Anaktorness]

I've always been a little hesitant about the mind control tag. zombie-like women with no will of their own

Is this mental control decisive for the MC to fuck the women in the game?

 

[Allosaurus Fan]

Is the hidden camera implemented yet?

 

[Fulminato]

"boring and uninteresting story"
1. thats your opinion
2. that implies you found the game prior to the ava event "boring and uninteresting"

it's an objective and verificable fact. you can pass over this elements, if for you mean little, but they still remains.
before last update the "apparent" antagonist where the fed, but we see they aren't so fearsom as they were depicted

"without any serious antagonist"
1. you do not need any kind of antagonist in a mind control game
2. you do remember this is a porn game right?

absolutely non relevant. a story is a story. without any antagonist or challenge to overcome the story will be plain, boring and uniteresting. the fact most porn game had terrible and idot story don't mean every porn game should, or we need to stop to ask a better narrative.

"the dev had said it will never switch from a mind controlling game in a mind controlled game"
that is literally what happened in the last ava update, it being a (apparent) temporary state doesn't change the fact that it happened

tell me you don't know nothing about mind control (ing/ed) games without tell me you don't know nothing about mind control (ing/ed) games.

we don't do in a any compulsory way ava bidding. the MC isn't mind controlled to do anything. just what the player/mc want is what ava want for her masterplan. a crucial point in mind control game from the controlled part is doing thing against their will. you cannot turn around that point. it's an absolute requirement. and ava don't mind force the MC to do anything. she manipulate him using a fake sense trust she build with the MC.

"and i trust him"
1. why?
2. "will never switch" a temporary switch is still a switch

because it's the only one with an idea about how the story will develope, other people can only speculate. and there isn't any switch, ava already take the control of the MC body once, you don't see anything she has done, but it's already happen, nor she mind control MC mind, you for real don't have any idea about this genere and its tropes.

"having the MC find a way to turn the table with ava will be interesting"
i agree but it should not be left up in air for the foreseeable future because it goes against the core appeal of the mind control kink which is that of a power fantasy, as a result people who love mind control porn games (aka ME) are not given much incentive to continue playing, it should have wraped up the switch in power a the end of the event (possibly with the implied threat of future attempts by eva & the mc having to do something about stoping her being able to do so), that way it would not deter players who love mind control (aka the main kink & draw of the game) from continuing with future versions

a lot of words to said "my little ego is hurt because the MC isn't a uber power player without any chance to beign outplayed."
because that is what happen.

a lot of mind control game (i think is the majority) have the protagonist succumb external mind control power. they don't stop to cater the mind control kink because the MC isn't the one doing it. i hate them, but my personal taste mean nothing in a genere definition, or the fact some game belong to some genere or not.

the fact you cannot handle the fact it existthe danger to play under an antagonist mind control power it's your problem. it's can be done very well, one of the best mind control game of all time, lilith device, do that a couple of time.