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Ok, well this visual novel/game is pretty much just Porn For Dummies or Porn 101, and doesn't really have a deep or meaningful story... Oh, and it is another in a long line of overused Family Sex themed games...
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Wow I see it's not for you. I also see you gave Dreams of Desire only 3 stars and somewhat of a bad review, it's in the most popular game section so it looks like I'm in good company.

I also noticed you haven't posted a game of your own to show all of developers how it is suppose to be done. As this is my first project maybe I could have learned something from your game as it would have been better than DoD????
 

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Wow I see it's not for you. I also see you gave Dreams of Desire only 3 stars and somewhat of a bad review, it's in the most popular game section so it looks like I'm in good company.
Dreams of Desire started off really good, but the later half totally changed from being story driven, to being porn driven, which was very disappointing... And I always strive to be as honest and detailed as I can when reviewing any book, game, erotic visual novel, etc. as I can... I can see why it is popular, at first it appeals to people looking for a deep and entertaining story, but then it switches gears to appeal the folks who could care less about story and just want to get their jollies off a bunch of sex scenes... As a whole, that doesn't make for a well balanced and entertaining product... It's almost like two different VN/Games smashed together into one... I also tend to see that most folks who comment in these forums are the ones who just want to see porn type scenes, and the people who are looking for a good well balanced erotic visual novel/game just don't speak up as much, which might be why it changed so drastically, i dunno...

Take a review for what it is, someone else's opinion and/or point of view based on their experience... Who cares if it's popular or not popular, that doesn't really matter to me when I give a review of my experience... It's just feedback, which is what these forums are for...

The reason I gave DOD 3 stars instead of 1, was because it was supposed to be an Erotic Visual Novel (a fictitious prose narrative of book length, typically representing character and action with some degree of realism, following an erotic theme with visuals to support the story), and it started off like that, and I really enjoyed it up to the point that it changed... It went from story driven to nothing but a bunch of sex scenes with little to no story progression or growth, which was disappointing... So because I really enjoyed the first half I gave it a 3 overall instead of a 1, for becoming just another porn game in the 2nd half...

I also noticed you haven't posted a game of your own to show all of developers how it is suppose to be done. As this is my first project maybe I could have learned something from your game as it would have been better than DoD????
I'm a reader/player, not an author or developer... I know it has to be super tough and time consuming to put these sorts of things together... And I applaud artists for putting their work out there for others to see and experience... But like any art or product, feedback from the audience has to be expected... Good and/or bad... It not only helps other people see a different perspective, but it also may actually help, an artist, to see different points of view, and see how others experienced their product... The artists/authors may even take away something that helps them grow artistically and do even better next time...

Nothing in these forums sais that only other devs/authors should give feedback or conduct reviews...
 
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Dreams of Desire started off really good, but the later half totally changed from being story driven, to being porn driven...So because I really enjoyed the first half I gave it a 3 overall instead of a 1...
I bet the dev is happy he didn't receive a 1 star being the 4th ranking game on this site.

I'm a reader/player, not an author or developer... and do even better next time...]
Your comments don't help using statements like grammar errors then not point out where they were so they could be fixed. Also your other comments were vague and not helpful as well. I read your other reviews and they are contradictory, you either complain about having to grind or wait to see sexual scenes or complain because they happen too fast. You never read my change log to find out this game is less than 6 weeks into development and I had trouble figuring out the camera setup as I didn't know you had to use a second camera to set the rendering camera up and messed up some renders that I've been replacing and still have more to replace. You just come in and with run off at the mouth and it's not constructive criticism or helpful in anyway to me or other readers.
 
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I bet the dev is happy he didn't receive a 1 star being the 4th ranking game on this site.


You comments don't help using statements like grammar errors then not point out where they were so they could be fixed. Also your other comments were vague and not helpful as well. I read your other reviews and they are contradictory, you either complain about having to grind or wait to see sexual scenes or complain because they happen too fast. You never read my change log to find out this game is less than 6 weeks into development and I had trouble figuring out the camera setup as I didn't know you had to use a second camera to set the rendering camera up and messed up some renders that I've been replacing and still have more to replace. You just come in and with run off at the mouth and it's not constructive criticism or helpful in anyway to me or other readers.
It's a review... I'm not your editor...

I can see that you are angry because I didn't give it a very good review... I can't help that you feel that way... But that happens, you really should get used to getting bad reviews with the good, otherwise you'll stress yourself out too much...

As to the change logs, I do not read other reviews, or view change logs, or go to other sites to research a game/VN before I try it out... I prefer experiencing these things in their raw released form, without tainting or spoiling the experience before hand... And based on my experience playing/reading the game/VN I then give a review of some of that experience, bad and/or good...

And again, it doesn't matter how popular some game/VN is on this one website... Just because it gets a lot of thread posts, or gets downloaded a lot doesn't automatically make it great and fun and entertaining... It's the actual experience that really truly matters... The only way to actually get a realistic idea of just how popular anything really is, is to go out and force poll every player to see just how many stars they would really rate it overall... Popularity can be both good and bad, it's a neutral word...

Reviews are always based on the opinion/s of the person who's doing the reviews, based on their own personal experiences, not the experiences of others...

And I've never complained about having to wait for sexual scenes in a review, not sure where got that from... And when I mention that sex scenes are being presented to often, in a Visual Novel, it's usually because they are harming the flow of the story and detracting from the plot rather then supporting it... Erotic Visual Novels and Porn Games are not the same thing...

I'm sure that as time progresses your work will improve to your satisfaction, and will be everything you are hoping to achieve, and I do wish you the best of luck...
 
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Tried your game I feel like this is Female Protagonist. If it is so I wonder why I have to name the brother not the sister lol. And about the story, well how to say it's actually simple, confused and I don't feel tempted at all. I'm not sure but I doubt in the end the brother will bang every chick on the boat. Even a game in demo or earlier progress it needs well render if not then good looking characters, finally an attractive opening story.
 
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It's a review... I'm not your editor...
I didn't say you were, you said you were being helpful which you weren't and I just made the point that you could have been helpful by doing such. Do I take you seriously as a critic? No
I've gotten some feedback from this website and is why I've posted my project here. Things I'm trying are new and some have not worked out and I've had to make some changes. First I had the sprites way too big and it wasn't working so I changed them then the no makeup sprites where I was trying to show a transition of the sister wasn't working and I changed those, a lot of the early renders were and some still are bad and needs to be replaced as well as early animations with too much extra movements, it was my first time making them. You can buy animations for genesis 3 but not genesis 8. I can take constructive criticism like I said but you have nothing to offer.
 
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Tried your game I feel like this is Female Protagonist. If it is so I wonder why I have to name the brother not the sister lol. And about the story, well how to say it's actually simple, confused and I don't feel tempted at all. I'm not sure but I doubt in the end the brother will bang every chick on the boat. Even a game in demo or earlier progress it needs well render if not then good looking characters, finally an attractive opening story.
No many games have sections like this, it's a mini-game while your sister is in school. Have you ever had your sister mess you up on a relationship with a girl by her actions? The same could happen here. Depending on her choices could effect your future pathways. If playing the FC bothers you then have your wife, girlfriend or sister play the mini-game for you. :)
 

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Ok, well this visual novel/game is pretty much just Porn For Dummies or Porn 101, and doesn't really have a deep or meaningful story... Oh, and it is another in a long line of overused Family Sex themed games...SNIP!
This game has no real depth or meaningful story, it's just a Porn story about Porn, with a Family sex twist...
Annnd the long post of the day goes too.... *drumroll* Zippity!
Please use a spoiler for wordy posts.
FYI... You sounded bitter in that review.
 
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Might want to read the dev's reply to my post you quoted which the dev gave the sources for where the audio was acquired from as well as commenting on the character's photoshop experience.

I'll give credit where its due, and the audio is not the dev's original works as stated by the dev that it was acquired from a shared sound site.

If the dev can't cope with criticism, regardless of experience in the field, their projects won't improve. If they don't improve and create something that caters to more than themselves, they won't gain any growth in this industry. This isn't a new field where there's no expectations, there is a lot of competition, and they take criticisms and improve as quickly as they can.

What I critiqued was something the dev could clarify and easily improve on, which the dev did. This was hardly worth pointing out to defend the developer from, and was far from being spiteful.
Ah sorry for not being that undestanding and i didn't had the time to go through posts my bad but i won't disagree "If the dev can't cope with criticism, regardless of experience in the field, their projects won't improve. If they don't improve and create something that caters to more than themselves, they won't gain any growth in this industry. This isn't a new field where there's no expectations, there is a lot of competition, and they take criticisms and improve as quickly as they can" they are just as r8 as it sounds but some people are not fit to cope u know i myself give up at some point( pathetic i know)but human nature dude so called brotherhood:Dand i pointed out not because it was hurting my values or whatever i
commented so i future nobody if they have read the conversations or posts will comment regarding this i think u get r8 :)i hope ur not a negative guy to take my comments as a poke and for ur knowledge i hardly comment in any social sites not pick wrong commenters just to help out the victim anyway hope that settles it have great life:cool:
 

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I take productive, helpful creative criticism very well just read through past post to see. I had huge sprites that weren't working and I changed, no makeup sprites that didn't work as planned that I changed, renders that were bad that I'm still replacing, animation with too much moving that I'm replacing, etc... It's the meaningless, trolling statements that I don't take well. Like I stole the sounds or used other peoples works and even after a kind reply on where they came from I still see topics pop up about me not creating them. It's meaningless and trolling as many developers use freesound.org and credit them the same way I do with the same logo even the top ranking games that could afford to hire their own voice actresses.
The trollers seem to come from the same group of people trolling other incest gaming forums, it seems their genre of games is almost extinct and they've resorted to trolling tactics on the most popular genre.
 
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I tried! But the guy just looks like a beige potato. ... or ginger root... idk some kind of tuber or rhizome,
 
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I tried! But the guy just looks like a beige potato. ... or ginger root... idk some kind of tuber or rhizome,
I finally gave in, 6 weeks of development and only 2 patrons, $10, must be something so I'll try although I don't understand why guys care about the build, they say nothing about skinny, short boy looking characters. The MC is not much bigger than I was during my military tour and girls were all over me. I guess guys didn't like that very much either anyway...
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I finally gave in, 6 weeks of development and only 2 patrons, $10, must be something so I'll try although I don't understand why guys care about the build, they say nothing about skinny, short boy looking characters. The MC is not much bigger than I was during my military tour and girls were all over me. I guess guys didn't like that very much either anyway...
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Oh, hey! That's much better in my opinion. And the thing was a matter of proportion. He looked bigger than Ahnold back in the middle of his muscle man career. This guy looks plausibly fit now. Don't be discouraged by the patrons! Some games can take months to take off, at least with 3d stuff your overhead for art assets is less than it could be. Keep it a passion project and you won't be frustrated if it isn't a big money maker.
 
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Oh, hey! That's much better in my opinion...
It doesn't quite fit his character's character on his TV Show. Did I say that right? lol Mountain... er... Volcano is huge but they've been through about 7 different guys and I haven't seen them all so at least one of them could have been rather normal size. I worried that my MC was too short but no one was complaining about that. At least now he'll be easier to pose. It was difficult with his size for sure.
 
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Hey there, just wanted to let you know that I'm really loving the game so far, I'm personally looking forward to the peeing scenes with Shelly (I sure hope there's going to be quite a few).

I'm really into the female toilet fetish, would you ever consider putting optional pooping scenarios for the girls in your game at some point? I know it's not for everyone (You could make it so it's completely optional by turning it on or off through settings, if that's even possible), I don't mean like pooping on one another and touching it etc (I find that a little gross to be honest), I mean just voyeur related stuff, like for example - watching Shelly poop (and/or pee) on the toilet while you masturbate, or she needs to go while taking a walk outside so you take her to a nearby bush and watch her let it out making her feel a little ashamed/embarrassed, then afterwards end up having sex with her because of the heat of the moment :p. Yeah, just non-interactive stuff really, only watching.

I can see that you're going for a kinky type of fetish game so I just thought id give some feedback for folks with the same fetish as me, it's totally fine if you don't want to put it in, I'm just putting it out there is all, don't feel pressured by it. And hopefully you don't take it the wrong way and get annoyed at me for suggesting this :3

Anyway, I hope you keep up the great work in 2018, you seem very passionate about it :)
 
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