VN Ren'Py Simulation 69 [EP. 4 v.02] [HotVenusStudios]

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Beast Within

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Lack of trust and suspicion towards a person is not an indicator of a bad opinion of a person for you?
Depends if I know the reason behind that. is it founded or unfounded. also bias exists for a reason.
but again, a bad opinion of someone doesnt make that someone a bad person. for example I do not know many women who would date someone who works a "lowly" job. that doesnt make the person a bad one.
do I make any sence? my english are not very helpful
 

Night-Wolf

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hey don't complain about strippers that's how the dev paid for her college
HVS is actually a "Team of two". As for if they're both women, two men, or even one woman and one man...no idea. But going by the characters Mouse and Angel...my guess is one of them is a woman if not both of them. Dev won't say tho.

Also, lay off. I'm a patreon and the Devs are very open and honest. Even give frequent updates, show previews that confirm they're working on it. And it's their first game.
 

Sayajin2205

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hey don't complain about strippers that's how the dev paid for her college
Na man no need to say shit like this.It's one thing to be frustrated regarding the Dev's writing and direction and ranting about it and another thing to insult the dev personally.I was ranting about the direction of the big sis myself but you don't need to talk shit about Dev's personal life which we also have no idea is true or anything.Talk about the game .
 

fajiker145

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Why does everyone have such a strong belief that whores and strippers are bad people? I can't understand it. What's wrong with u guys ?
Well, does the older sister work as a stripper, does that immediately make her a bad person?
Bad people? What are we 12 or something?
The truth is that strippers sell their bodies and dignity for a few bucks. Most normal ( and honest) people dont like people they care about doing sex work. Hell, even famous pornstars have talked about how they regretted doing it and the money wasn't worth it, and I am not even going to talk about the suicide rates and drug usage related to the profession.

Of course, that doesnt make them bad or evil, just unsuitable for a serious relationship, and, in the case of the sister in this game, it just makes her look retarded because she could do literally anything else. Most people doing those kind of work do it out of real necessity and lack of options.

You can try to act all progressive and shit and pretend you'd be ok with your partner/daughter/mother being a stripper/slut/sex worker but most people are not.
I guess 90% of the population are incels then, according to a dude with a Spongebob pfp and 2k+ comments on a porn forum:KEK::KEK:. The joke writes itself.
 

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it is definitely a promising game, but I am not a fan of stripping job in the game. Hopefully it would not hurt the overall story and characters of the game.
 
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Na man no need to say shit like this.It's one thing to be frustrated regarding the Dev's writing and direction and ranting about it and another thing to insult the dev personally.I was ranting about the direction of the big sis myself but you don't need to talk shit about Dev's personal life which we also have no idea is true or anything.Talk about the game .
Taking personal shots at Devs when people don't get their way is the most F95 thing ever. I've seen every fan of every genre do this stuff. Part of it is entitlement and the other part is just simply being a jerk off.

It's as a KYP sort of thing. it's one thing if the Dev was a known scammer, liar and milker. And it's another thing just to shit post every Dev that doesn't cater to you. I myself don't even bother with certain threads because everyday it's the same douche bags with zero lives that love to hear themselves think polluting them.

From my experience with Hotvenusstudios is that they've always been cool, upfront and truthful with me so again, the personal attacks is uncalled for but it's pretty much a douchey F95 thing and it's always been this way, sadly.

There's dozens of games that get posted in this forum, 70% of them are unplayable for me. But I don't spam those game threads like some of these losers do to games that they know they'll never play or support anyways.
 

Night-Wolf

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Bad people? What are we 12 or something?
The truth is that strippers sell their bodies and dignity for a few bucks. Most normal ( and honest) people dont like people they care about doing sex work. Hell, even famous pornstars have talked about how they regretted doing it and the money wasn't worth it, and I am not even going to talk about the suicide rates and drug usage related to the profession.

Of course, that doesnt make them bad or evil, just unsuitable for a serious relationship, and, in the case of the sister in this game, it just makes her look retarded because she could do literally anything else. Most people doing those kind of work do it out of real necessity and lack of options.

You can try to act all progressive and shit and pretend you'd be ok with your partner/daughter/mother being a stripper/slut/sex worker but most people are not.
I guess 90% of the population are incels then, according to a dude with a Spongebob pfp and 2k+ comments on a porn forum:KEK::KEK:. The joke writes itself.
Strippers don't sleep with the customers, and the customers aren't even allowed to touch them. Also, I kinda somewhat get what the recruiter said in the game. Who is truly being exploited? I mean grown ass men (and some women) are spending all their hard-earned $$$ just to see what you can EASILY see online with a simple google search. If anything, the people who go to those clubs are the true losers.

Jen wasn't signing up to be a hooker, slut, etc. Not to mention I doubt her character would let a single male touch her. She just doesn't want Beth to pay off her student loans. She wants to pay it all with her own $ and as fast as possible. I get that. I only recently finished paying off my own student loans.

We all make mistakes, bruh. Nobody is perfect. A single moment of weakness doesn't make someone lesser. I'm gonna patiently wait to see how the HVS duo handles episode 5. If I see Jen let a total stranger have his way with her body...then I'm dropping the game.
 

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Taking personal shots at Devs when people don't get their way is the most F95 thing ever. I've seen every fan of every genre do this stuff. Part of it is entitlement and the other part is just simply being a jerk off.

It's as a KYP sort of thing. it's one thing if the Dev was a known scammer, liar and milker. And it's another thing just to shit post every Dev that doesn't cater to you. I myself don't even bother with certain threads because everyday it's the same douche bags with zero lives that love to hear themselves think polluting them.

From my experience with Hotvenusstudios is that they've always been cool, upfront and truthful with me so again, the personal attacks is uncalled for but it's pretty much a douchey F95 thing and it's always been this way, sadly.

There's dozens of games that get posted in this forum, 70% of them are unplayable for me. But I don't spam those game threads like some of these losers do to games that they know they'll never play or support anyways.
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FNM90

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Why does everyone have such a strong belief that whores and strippers are bad people? I can't understand it. What's wrong with u guys ?
Well, does the older sister work as a stripper, does that immediately make her a bad person?
This stripper gig is so American...only in countries with a harsh police against prostitution such thing could exist. But then again, a massagist (masseuse) should make more sense.

Yeah, I've been in stripper houses before, but on every occasion the strip purpose was advertisement for sexual services which took place in the conveniently placed rooms/motel just on the side of the parlor.

I couldn't care less if the dev is a communist trade unionist, a rabbi, a gangsta rapper, the chief of a medical association or a stripper. My concern is about the quality of the game and about that only. What she does when not coding is of her concern...

But still, this question is so naive to say the least...

Any person with some real world experience with prostitution learns to keep a safe distance over them, if not in by good judgement, then by lessons learned the hard way.

It doesn't make them bad people. If my daughter were a prostitute I would not pity her, she would have a life just like any of us. I would pity poor fellows that had to deal with her on long term basis.
 
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This stripper gig is so American...only in countries with a harsh police against prostitution such thing could exist. But then again, a massagist (masseur) should make more sense.

Yeah, I've been in stripper houses before, but on every occasion the strip purpose was advertisement for sexual services which took place in the conveniently placed rooms/motel just on the side of the parlor.

I couldn't care less if the dev is a communist trade unionist, a rabbi, a gangsta rapper, the chief of a medical association or a stripper. My concern is about the quality of the game and about that only. What she does when not coding is of her concern...

But still, this question is so naive to say the least...

Any person with some real world experience with prostitution learns to keep a safe distance over them, if not in by good judgement, then by lessons learned the hard way.

It doesn't make them bad people. If my daughter were a prostitute I would not pity her, she would have a life just like any of us. I would pity poor fellows that had to deal with her on long term basis.
It would be interesting to hear your stories about your experience with prostitutes.
 

FNM90

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It would be interesting to hear your stories about your experience with prostitutes.
To make a long story short, during college I made several friends, most of them came to my city for college.

There was a older one that worked on oil industry and was a regular customer of those services;

There was another one which lived in a building that had several apartments in which those services were provided;

There was another one who was a virgin and really wanted to get rid of this "condition", but was too shy to go for it, so he arranged with the previous two guys to take me to a bawdy house when I turned 18 as an excuse for himself...

There was this guy that really drank a lot and one day, when he tough he got lucky with a buxom lady, he eventually discovered he slept with a transgender.

There was this girl from the countryside that was astonished when she discovered how her lady friends were able to afford a furnished apartment only for themselves while she could only afford a small shared one and that with the support of her parents.


So I ended amassing experience from several people and situations, even though I only paid for those services twice (in unorthodox situations). To quote Machiavelli, there are three classes of intellects, if you can learn by others' people experience you're well enough yourself.

While we shouldn't put stigma on people, it's not uncommon, when someone is into this kind of thing to find himself:
a) robbed of money from a wallet or some valuable possession when you take a call girl in your home;
b) getting way less time or being milked for more money than you previously agreed when you go to the call girl condo;
c) having to deal with drugged people when you go to red light street. Also, getting blackmailed if you're married (there are criminals in cahoots with prostitutes to extort money from married/religious guys) ;
d) getting yourself toyed with if you agree to go on a date with a call girl that you already had been before and "liked you because you are special". Bad news, you're actually "emotionally needy of affection" and she realized that;
e) getting swindled when you cling a long term deal (e.g. you sell something in installments trusting that she will pay the rest later) because money comes "easy" around her (not saying that their pay is easy, but some people spend thousands with drinks, rooms, parting, cigars, gifts and everything plus the service itself, that's how the house makes money), that she didn't even realize that for normal people that go from pay to pay to make ends meet, "small" quantities may be the difference between affording something as essential as medicine or not.

When in doubt just remember that one of the oldest texts discovered is a warning from an Akkadian father toward this son saying not to make a wife from women whose men are a multitude. This is 2200 BC.
 
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To make a long story short, during college I made several friends, most of them came to my city for college.

There was a older one that worked on oil industry and was a regular customer of those services;

There was another one which lived in a building that had several apartments in which those services were provided;

There was another one who was a virgin and really wanted to get rid of this "condition", but was too shy to go for it, so he arranged with the previous two guys to take me to a bawdy house when I turned 18 as an excuse for himself...

There was this guy that really drank a lot and one day, when he tough he got lucky with a buxom lady, he eventually discovered he slept with a transgender.

There was this girl from the countryside that was astonished when she discovered how her lady friends were able to afford a furnished apartment only for themselves while she could only afford a small shared one and that with the support of her parents.


So I ended amassing experience from several people and situations, even though I only paid for those services twice (in unorthodox situations). To quote Machiavelli, there are three classes of intellects, if you can learn by others' people experience you're well enough yourself.

While we shouldn't put stigma on people, it's not uncommon, when someone is into this kind of thing to find himself:
a) robbed of money from a wallet or some valuable possession when you take a call girl in your home;
b) getting way less time or being milked for more money than you previously agreed when you go to the call girl condo;
c) having to deal with drugged people when you go to red light street;
d) getting yourself toyed with if you agree to go on a date with a call girl that you already had been before and "liked you because you are special". Bad news, you're actually "emotionally needy of affection" and she realized that;
e) getting swindled when you cling a long term deal (e.g. you sell something in installments trusting that she will pay the rest later) because money comes "easy" around her (not saying that their pay is easy, but some people spend thousands with drinks, rooms, parting, cigars, gifts and everything plus the service itself, that's how the house makes money), that she didn't even realize that for normal people that go from pay to pay to make ends meet, "small" quantities may be the difference between affording something as essential as medicine or not.

When in doubt just remember that one of the oldest texts discovered is a warning from an Akkadian father toward this son saying not to make a wife from women whose men are a multitude. This is 2200 BC.
Damn how old you are...
 
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