I have studied law, and know people get out of pre-nups all the time based on things you would think that would not be an issue with one. The big one is fairness. If the pre-nup is not fair to the other party, it can be voided.
Actually - I meant what I said
Hahah! I don't know my family is pretty prudish/neurotic ... Friends is another thing, but even being drunk I don't believe we would let loose that much in my families! I hope I have the same relationship as you with your parents with my children when I get them, I do believe it's the right relationship to have.
"no fault" means that one person does not have to be assigned blame for the divorce. In the past, someone had to do something "cheat, break vows, etc." with proof they did something for the divorce to occur. With no "fault", anyone can kill a marriage, for any reason. It is just used as the reason for divorce, actual fault (circumstances around the marriage) can be used in terms of distribution of assets in the divorce proceedings. This is why the Ex pulled her shit to try to get more money at the meeting with the judge.
Well I'd love to hear more. We would have to ask the dev to write up the prenup and give some further information on the valuation of the house (at least location and build year we could extrapolate from there) as well as the stuff inside.
But it does look in the game, like they aren't assigning blame... Why would she try to do so, if there was a case for abuse how would it turn out with the assets?
It all depends on how your family works. I have open conversation with my kids (twins, 25, 1 boy, 1 girl). No subject was taboo. My kids didn't have a mother (she died), so if they wanted an answer from someone, they asked me, friends, a girl friend I had at the time, or a friends parents. My daughter trusted me and 90% of the time would talk to me. I have held her hair as she puked, I have gotten her to bed drunk, I have seen her naked (she was in my shower because brother was in theirs), she has seen me naked (I was dressing and she walked in. It is no big deal if you don't make it a big deal. I look at the human body as a body, like a doctor, things do certain functions, and if you deal with it like that, nothing really gets in the way. She is smart and knows when things get weird, so you don't let them get weird, and move on.
Agreed in some ways. Depends on her experience in dealing with the emotions of sexual relationships (or perceived sexual relationships). The way this was written, she had zero (or near zero) experience with dealing with sexual emotions. Playing with a step-sister is not a sexual relationship, that is pure getting off/masturbation. Relationships suck and trying to get through is hard. Do you remember your first crush? Do you remember your first "damn I want to jump his/her bones" relationship? How did that turn out? She doesn't know how her father is reacting and doesn't know what to expect from a guy who has been married twice, and had a few girlfriends before. Her in-experience could be showing, and that would lead to the "rash" decisions. I can see it, but it is not how every person is, I agree.
Blame doesn't need to be established to initiate the divorce proceedings (the court case to divorce someone). Blame can be used in extreme examples to nullify a pre-nup, to sway the judge that one person was so bad that living with this person was so horrible that divorce is the only option (to make one party look sympathetic to the judge). It is all about perceptions. Which is why the ex pulled the shit she did in the proceedings, to try to sway the judge into throwing out the pre-nup making everything go in her favor.
From a legal perspective it is all about fair and equitable. Meaning that both parties get about the same amount, and this it is fair to both parties that are not getting screwed out of the divorce. The mother is not getting "screwed", she is getting the majority of the joint assets (the pre-nup covers the condo so it is not in the marriage assets). The judge could have forced her to sell the house, and split the assets, yes. This is why Frank was such a stand up guy and said he is not contesting the house, and giving it to the ex. So she has a place to live, and Lilly/Becca have a place to call home. He had his already protected condo. The cars and money, he contested and it was split down the middle.Well I'd love to hear more. We would have to ask the dev to write up the prenup and give some further information on the valuation of the house (at least location and build year we could extrapolate from there) as well as the stuff inside.
Could the judge have forced her to split the house even if the MC gives it up? And could her cheating make the prenup hold even if her lawyer argues it's void for some other reason?
Thanks a bunch already
Yeah another overreaction, treating Frank like he has been acting like a creep for years touching them inappropriately and so on instead of a loving and supportive stepfather who behaved himself all these years.
Again thank you what would that judge have done differently. Ignoring the issue of the ruling in the abuse case that could have been opened, if that trial would have been ruled in favor of the ex-wife, would she get a larger part of the assets, all seem a bit overboard, or is it completely at the judges discretion?
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Not to get too technical - but this was not a trial, this was probably binding arbitration. The two parties (Frank and his ex) thought they didn't want a long drawn out trial, and they decided to have the quicker route. It was not done in a court room, there was no court recorder (stenographer), no lawyers, etc. It was just a judge, and the two parties in the marriage. Judges have rules they follow, and the judge recorded the proceedings. They have special things or circumstances they must follow if they go off the "standard" path of splitting things down the middle. The legal system rules on one motion of law at a time. So if you noted (again this dev either did their homework, or just was lucky
The judge went through the assets as follows:
I never said it wasn't an overreaction - I merely stated that Abby does kick out Frank if you go off the happy path.
Yes, I can tell you from lived experience that that part of the story was some of the greatest fiction ever told.
Well this is a story about a middle age man banging his teen daughters. So I am hopefully not looking for realism here.
It honestly depends on where you live, and the scenario that is at play. For the scenario presented, I think it was actually pretty representative of what would have happened IRL, even if you swapped gender roles for the two parties. Usually what happens IRL is one party has a ton more income than the other, and there are no pre-nup assets to consider. Kids given priority live in the house, and most kids go with mother. Then Alimony and split everything else 50% down the middle.
