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RoyMe

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There is not, it is central to the story, patching the game to change that relationship would require rewriting a large chunk of the game and I don't see anyone making that effort.
I just started this game.
However, I don't think it's appropriate to add incest tag without blood relationship.
 

ramvivat

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Is there any patch that would make Abigail the MC's real daughter and be underage? I really don't like adoptive relationships.
yea, rrright. and rewrite almost all plot. yeah-yeah... and it will be new VN, you know?
 

ramvivat

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I hate when I can figure out what trolls have said by the replies ...
don't be afraid of trolls dude.
trolls eats only those who try to double-standartise others (i mean hypocrites). and if you do exact what you think and talking - you cannot be eaten by the trolls, or rather you can fear them.

BTW VN autors are mostly trolls hehe.
don't be afraid of trolls dude.

peace!
 

NewTricks

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Is there any patch that would make Abigail the MC's real daughter and be underage? I really don't like adoptive relationships.
No. Francis cannot have children. His little swimmers sink, don't swim. That's why he has never slipped one past the goalie.
 
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ramvivat

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No. Francis cannot have children.
I do not want to sound rude, but still I will ask the question: is it really? and can you quote where Frank says he's infertile?
( I can accidentally forget, and you will do a good deed if you remind. )
and according to some sources, quite the contrary, he HAS a daughter.
but yeah, her name is NOT Abigail, hehe
;)
 

RoyMe

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yea, rrright. and rewrite almost all plot. yeah-yeah... and it will be new VN, you know?
Sorry. As I said, I've only just started playing the game and don't know much about its story yet. I actually like the game a lot, the LIs are pretty and the rendering is fantastic. But I'm also disappointed to learn that a game with an incest tag doesn't include blood-related characters.
 
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Cartageno

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Sorry. As I said, I've only just started playing the game and don't know much about its story yet. I actually like the game a lot, the LIs are pretty and the rendering is fantastic. But I'm also disappointed to learn that a game with an incest tag doesn't include blood-related characters.
Then it will indeed be a problem for you because as others have said the story of this game relies a lot on the fact that the girls are adopted only and not his blood-related children(*) and how that makes it legally okay but morally problematic for MC(+). To a lesser degree the girls can also not be underage since the story needs them to be able to have certain rights, own property, act on their own before the law, are not under parental surveillance anymore and so forth. So both aspects cannot be changed via patch, only via a complete rewrite of the story. So you can roll with a (by your kink-satisfaction) "non incest" game or get away before you get sucked in too much.

(*) Some argue by comparing timelines that one of the girls may actually be his. I personally don't think so but even if it were true, that would be a twist for later - for all intents and purposes right now she counts as somebody else's.

(+) Depending on who you ask, the "morally problematic" may be described in stronger words, or more MC's reaction to this. Some think that this is overdone. But again, whether we like it or not, it is a huge part of the story.
 

c3p0

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So both aspects cannot be changed via patch(#), only via a complete rewrite of the story.
To add another clarification:
(#) As a simple patch would do, that redefine some variable or just enable some hidden feature. A whole rewite could be done via patch, but such a patch would be a lot more work, most likely also be bigger. Depending if it is only text then a few kB or, if its include some new scene, for some reasons (-), then it could be even multiple MBs or even GBs.

(-) First, yes, we can cascade them. Reasons may vary and could be that some scene make no sense and need adjustment or a new scene is needed so the story makes sense, even with the changes or, simple, on artistic licence of the modder.
 
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NewTricks

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I do not want to sound rude, but still I will ask the question: is it really? and can you quote where Frank says he's infertile?
( I can accidentally forget, and you will do a good deed if you remind. )
and according to some sources, quite the contrary, he HAS a daughter.
but yeah, her name is NOT Abigail, hehe
;)
No. Francis is sterile. He fucked Shannon for years without issue. The various theories about him being the oldest daughter's biological father have been disproven multiple times by simple arithmetic. The subplot of him having children with lesbians is going to come to a screeching halt when they discover he has the same sperm count as a cup of 2% milk. No God would be so irresponsible as to allow him to breed and no devil would be so cruel as to allow him to unleash his genetic defects upon the world.
 

Cartageno

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To add another clarification:
(#) As a simple patch would do, that redefine some variable or just enable some hidden feature. A whole rewite could be done via patch, but such a patch would be a lot more work, most likely bigger. Depending if it is only text then a few kB or, if its include some new scene, for some reasons (-), then it could be even multiple MBs or even GBs.
Yeah, you're correct. I mean you can technically "patch" Microsoft Office to become Skyrim. However, I think most people think about a simple variable change ("Mom" instead of "Chloe") plus a maximum of five lines of dialogue. The max. 2kB patches you quickly download from Mega (even though some "true content" patches exist that compare in size to the main game).
 
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cxx

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Is there any patch that would make Abigail the MC's real daughter and be underage? I really don't like adoptive relationships.
no and why the hell underage? if you want kiddie porn then you are at wrong place.
 
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Joshy92

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Lily is worth suffering through fake incest step shit.
Becca is also good
I can't wait to see them have sex
It's the only thing I really care about.
 

MrLKX

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no and why the hell underage? if you want kiddie porn then you are at wrong place.
I'm surprised that this was only brought up now. I blame it on different time zones. As for the paternity of the eldest daughter:

I'm actually in this thread often enough and I don't recall anyone arithmetically disproving that Frank could not theoretically be the father of the certain person. As far as my memories don't lie to me, then it has merely been refuted, including by me, that it is very unlikely that the definite father of the younger of the two (Trevor is his name) ex-stepdaughters could also be the father of the older, because the potential window of opportunity is too narrow for that.

And while I don't insist that Frank has to be their father, I had theorized in the past that Shannon was so drunk off her ass at a girls' night out with the clique that she got hooked up by some guy who got her pregnant.

Otherwise, a small correction: The first time Frank and Shannon were together, they were only together for a year or so. When Frank and Shannon got married years later, Shannon, after getting pregnant with her youngest daughter, had her ovaries tied, to put it flippantly, so she couldn't get pregnant anymore. Therefore, it is definitely not due to Frank's fertility.
 
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