VN Ren'Py Single Again [v1.24.2] [Clever name games]

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Verbalvonitcomet

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ThorinKing said:
For you and all those that kvetch about the inner dialogue: how long would it take you to convince yourself it's okay to fuck your stepdaughters? Would you give pause at all, would you need a minute to get your head around the concept, or would you not do it at all?

This is a porn VN, so the MC is going to do it - having a bit of struggle over the first month or so (remember, this hasn't been years within the VN) is a reasonable human reaction. Any human that didn't have hesitation is a pretty trash person.
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Your talking on this thread arn't you I think you answered your own question there buddy.
 
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JosephCosta

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Love the game, the story is good, the characters and events are well Written, but is it just me, or is anyone else not interested in Abby in a sexual way, I think the story is better without a sexual relationship with Abby.
 
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JosephCosta said:
Love the game, the story is good, the characters and events are well Written, but is it just me, or is anyone else not interested in Abby in a sexual way, I think the story is better without a sexual relationship with Abby.
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I think you'll have to get used to it, the plot seems to go into that direction
 
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BigBlob69 said:
I shouldn't be writing this, but I need some catharsis. I'm trying to get to the end of the current build so I can give this a fair review, but what started out an enjoyable process has become so agonising. I'm so fed up with the mc constantly doubting every little thing. Everything is a back and forth. He's constantly pretending he doesn't want something, then admitting he does, then taking it back. And apologising when it's unnecessary. I thought this was going to be dropped once he started fucking his daughters, but no, it persists, hell I'd say it gets worse. In real life he'd probably be diagnosed with some anxiety disorder. It's just so painful to get through even a single conversation that I keep putting the game down, which means it's sitting on my computer for even longer.

Doesn't help that the relationship between 2 of his daughters feels very NTR like to me. There's no point in debating the semantics of that controversial term; the point is just that it gives me the same feelings of jealousy and disgust, albeit to a much lesser extent than if it were a man. I'm normally fine with girl-on-girl action in male protagonist AVNs, but this game goes out of its way to rub in your face just how great and sexual their relationship is. Hell, the mc encourages one of them to make it an official girlfriend-girlfriend thing.

I know almost everyone who views this post is going to be a fan of this game, which is why I'd rather just write a review, but I need to do it to blow off some steam. If you are a fan; if you don't find the mc annoying; if you don't mind the daughters' relationship; that's great, and I'm glad for you. It's all a subjective experience.
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Normally, I enjoy games that take the slow road and develop characters. This game I do not enjoy.

The main character feels like he exists to be acted upon without any agency of his own exept to stagnate and endlessly ponder issues instead of making up his mind and advancing toward a goal.

Let's look at his history, he has a shrew for a girlfriend, meets a girl that is far more pleasant, said girl is into him, and he does nothing for years on end.

Even as said girl is leaving, and after his sister outright tells him to man up and tell her his feelings because she was into him, he chooses the cowards way out. He does nothing.

Result being: she leaves and gets pregnant with some other guys kid. Good job man.

And on and on it goes, every fucking step of the way. Each time the story advances is because of the actions of other people, he is just along for the ride, reacting to others, never taking the initiative.

Frankly just get it over with, the girls get fed up with waiting for him to take action, leave him to stagnate because he is seemingly incapable of doing anything without someone holding his hand and telling him what to do.

He dies alone, an eternal cuck and genetic dead end, while they build lives and have kids with guys that actually care enough about the girl to take the initiative and stop prevaricating.

And this coming from a guy that hates ntr with a passion.
 
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IDK if its been talked about yet or asked, but i did the math, is Becca Frank's actual daughter. Shannon and frank are both 39, Becca is 23 that means that Shannon was 16 when she was born, Frank and Shannon dated and were sleeping with each other at that age, then Shannon suddenly moves away and breaks all contact with frank. to me it sounds like frank knocked her up so her parents moved away to hide the embarrassment of their 16 year old daughter being pregnant. Becca also has mentioned several times in the game that Trevor is Lilith's dad, i think she only referenced him as dad once while talking to frank about him. It sounds like even Becca might suspect that frank is her actual dad. and the fact that she literally doesn't even register Trevor's existence. I also believe that Becca's so called boyfriend at the start of the game was only with Becca cause she took advantage of him because she knew her mom was cheating so she got her BF to call Frank and tell him to get home, then after everything happened she broke up with him, now Becca tries her best to protect Frank and help raise the family, kind of like an Electra syndrome, wants to replace her mom and be with her father. I hope my theory makes sense. and if I'm so wrong it hurts or is funny please let me know. P.S: I know it's a porn game and that's the focus, but I actually follow the story and I like being engaged in the world and environment of the game regardless of the format.
 
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JosephCosta said:
IDK if its been talked about yet or asked, but i did the math, is Becca Frank's actual daughter. Shannon and frank are both 39, Becca is 23 that means that Shannon was 16 when she was born, Frank and Shannon dated and were sleeping with each other at that age, then Shannon suddenly moves away and breaks all contact with frank. to me it sounds like frank knocked her up so her parents moved away to hide the embarrassment of their 16 year old daughter being pregnant. Becca also has mentioned several times in the game that Trevor is Lilith's dad, i think she only referenced him as dad once while talking to frank about him. It sounds like even Becca might suspect that frank is her actual dad. and the fact that she literally doesn't even register Trevor's existence. I also believe that Becca's so called boyfriend at the start of the game was only with Becca cause she took advantage of him because she knew her mom was cheating so she got her BF to call Frank and tell him to get home, then after everything happened she broke up with him, now Becca tries her best to protect Frank and help raise the family, kind of like an Electra syndrome, wants to replace her mom and be with her father. I hope my theory makes sense. and if I'm so wrong it hurts or is funny please let me know. P.S: I know it's a porn game and that's the focus, but I actually follow the story and I like being engaged in the world and environment of the game regardless of the format.
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Search function does exist...

Yes, it's been discussed many, many times.
 
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JosephCosta said:
IDK if its been talked about yet or asked, but i did the math, is Becca Frank's actual daughter. Shannon and frank are both 39, Becca is 23 that means that Shannon was 16 when she was born, Frank and Shannon dated and were sleeping with each other at that age, then Shannon suddenly moves away and breaks all contact with frank. to me it sounds like frank knocked her up so her parents moved away to hide the embarrassment of their 16 year old daughter being pregnant. Becca also has mentioned several times in the game that Trevor is Lilith's dad, i think she only referenced him as dad once while talking to frank about him. It sounds like even Becca might suspect that frank is her actual dad. and the fact that she literally doesn't even register Trevor's existence. I also believe that Becca's so called boyfriend at the start of the game was only with Becca cause she took advantage of him because she knew her mom was cheating so she got her BF to call Frank and tell him to get home, then after everything happened she broke up with him, now Becca tries her best to protect Frank and help raise the family, kind of like an Electra syndrome, wants to replace her mom and be with her father. I hope my theory makes sense. and if I'm so wrong it hurts or is funny please let me know. P.S: I know it's a porn game and that's the focus, but I actually follow the story and I like being engaged in the world and environment of the game regardless of the format.
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It's probably our fourth most talked about thing in this thread (behind 'Is Frank a betacuck who does nothing but whine and complains', 'When is the next update', and 'Can I sex Abby yet?').

Basically, the timing suggests that Becca got started during the weekend in Franks flashback, where he and Shannon were planning on having a wild party on Friday, followed by no pants weekend. Frank could be the father, or Shannon could have had other sex during the party. People on the Discord claim that CNG has confirmed that Frank is the father, but CNG usually responds to that question with 'pocket sand'.
 
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