VN Ren'Py Single Again [v1.24.2] [Clever name games]

[rudy007]

I could think of quite a few reasons, and possibly originally it was intended to make it possible but now the story narrowed down a bit (some stuff wouldn't work without a special connection to Beth I think, or at the very least be even more implausible than it already is).

And I can sympathize, I stopped a different game (to have no discussions about the merits of any individual character) where you can turn down (almost?) everybody, however those who I picked didn't seem to have gotten the message at all and dialogue is wonky as well. I wouldn't even have minded too much if they were enforced in the first place, but getting a choice, making it, and then ignoring it is - except for rare circumstances where it becomes immediately clear that you'll have to go a certain route - offputting and distracting.

Since I didn't reject Beth here I cannot say though how it is handled and whether it even may be a bug and not the "canon occurence".

I think that CNG didn't had a behind story for Beth and Nessa, Beth was introduced as "quick fuck" while we wait for Lilith&Becca. After they become practically main (side) character part of his story, CNG couldn't just let them go away... When CNG tried to imagine continuation of the story without Beth and Nessa he realized his mistake and he just let them be there as integrating part of the story.

 

[tmu500]

nice game, keep up the good work.

 

[DocPorny]

I wouldn't even have minded too much if they were enforced in the first place, but getting a choice, making it, and then ignoring it is - except for rare circumstances where it becomes immediately clear that you'll have to go a certain route - offputting and distracting.

Exactly this.
In regards to why, I myself treat VNs like naughty/kinky Create-your-own-Adventure-Books. So story and choices if existing are rather important. If I only want lewd content there is more than enough porn out there for that. In that context If I enjoy a VN and it has choices I like trying different routes and this was the perlmutation I went for this time. Nothing against the Charakter, she's ok.

Maybe it is simply a Bug but I doubt it. A lot of the later dialogues and events make very little sense without getting more involved with Beth. Which is okay if the dev wants to go in that direction, it's his game after all, but providing choices and ignoring them expecting to make only specific ones is, as it was accurately put, offputting.

 

[aslop]

Exactly this.
In regards to why, I myself treat VNs like naughty/kinky Create-your-own-Adventure-Books. So story and choices if existing are rather important. If I only want lewd content there is more than enough porn out there for that. In that context If I enjoy a VN and it has choices I like trying different routes and this was the perlmutation I went for this time. Nothing against the Charakter, she's ok.

Agreed 100%
I never understand people who skip story and cry about lack of lewd scenes. There are tons of real/animated porn. What's the point of VNs if all you care about is the action?

Maybe it is simply a Bug but I doubt it. A lot of the later dialogues and events make very little sense without getting more involved with Beth. Which is okay if the dev wants to go in that direction, it's his game after all, but providing choices and ignoring them expecting to make only specific ones is, as it was accurately put, offputting.

Not a bug. Unfortunately, in 90% of games the harem route is canonical, and if you exclude someone, the story falls apart.

 

[Zakalwe76]

Agreed 100%
I never understand people who skip story and cry about lack of lewd scenes. There are tons of real/animated porn. What's the point of VNs if all you care about is the action?


Not a bug. Unfortunately, in 90% of games the harem route is canonical, and if you exclude someone, the story falls apart.

but harem is fun. i'd normally get more disappointed if i have to give up on some of the LIs unless it makes the whole plot better at critical scale.
i know i know - i'm a greedy person)))

 

[master64]

Hello, I have translated the game into Spanish, you can download the translation from my post. HERE

Hola, he traducido el juego al español, pueden descargar la traducción en mi publicación. HERE

 

[Cartageno]

but harem is fun. i'd normally get more disappointed if i have to give up on some of the LIs unless it makes the whole plot better at critical scale.
i know i know - i'm a greedy person)))

Don't get me wrong, a Pokemon harem (gotta catch them all) is a thing I usually enjoy, too. However, sometimes I feel like a certain girl would make no sense to me ("No, I am not forgiving what you did"), sometimes I think the relation is too stretched storywise, sometimes I just don't like a character for whatever subjective reason. Having to decide against a girl you are interested in is one thing, but in a "full harem" game my decision has already been made for me, and it has been made wrongly, which makes continuing their scenes annoying. More so if you are given the choice by the game and it is just ignored. Imagine being asked "What do you like to eat?" - "Pizza" - "Okay, steamed zucchini it is."

Here I don't mind Bethnessa (hey - you're from a famous family, you get a celebrity couple name) too much but if they weren't there I wouldn't miss them and it would make the core group and its story more concise admittedly.

 

[Iluvatar_SVK]

Hello, I have translated the game into Spanish, you can download the translation from my post. HERE

Hola, he traducido el juego al español, pueden descargar la traducción en mi publicación. HERE

Hi. If you look at the very first post that Crazygamer43 made here (where you download the game from), there is a section called Extras. You will see there the French translation as well as the Slovak (mine). Write to the user Crazygamer43 to include your Spanish translation and you won't have to write it here every time you translate the next game update.

 

[Zakalwe76]

Don't get me wrong, a Pokemon harem (gotta catch them all) is a thing I usually enjoy, too. However, sometimes I feel like a certain girl would make no sense to me ("No, I am not forgiving what you did"), sometimes I think the relation is too stretched storywise, sometimes I just don't like a character for whatever subjective reason. Having to decide against a girl you are interested in is one thing, but in a "full harem" game my decision has already been made for me, and it has been made wrongly, which makes continuing their scenes annoying. More so if you are given the choice by the game and it is just ignored. Imagine being asked "What do you like to eat?" - "Pizza" - "Okay, steamed zucchini it is."

Here I don't mind Bethnessa (hey - you're from a famous family, you get a celebrity couple name) too much but if they weren't there I wouldn't miss them and it would make the core group and its story more concise admittedly.

can't argue with that - you've made a solid point. i think that's problem of the majority od scripts - at the beginning they all plan to make "that one game", but as the time passes by they all tend to simplify the plot robbing gamers of the majority of choices. which is sad. i guess dr. pinkcake managed to stick with the original strategy in badik though even that game probably has it's own drawbacks and "peculiarities".

 

[Cartageno]

i think that's problem of the majority od scripts - at the beginning they all plan to make "that one game", but as the time passes by they all tend to simplify the plot robbing gamers of the majority of choices.

Possibly because many devs are first timers or at least not that experienced and completely underestimate the impact on future development work major decisions can have. You have two sisters/daughters/school friends/mothers - uh, maybe not mothers - and can reject either one, and suddenly some scenes need to be written and rendered four times for the four possible choice sets.

 

[Iluvatar_SVK]

It was June 15th before

 

[tmu500]

It was June 15th before

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I am not that interested in the side stories.

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

I am not that interested in the side stories.

He means the main game as you can see looking at the right hand side of the image. The discord post with this image was updated at about 3:11pm today (not sure about timezone, I'm BST)

 

[Iluvatar_SVK]

He means the main game as you can see looking at the right hand side of the image. The discord post with this image was updated at about 3:11pm today (not sure about timezone)

Your time zone. I see a 16:11 hrs in my Discord.

 

[TheRealWimzy]

It was June 15th before

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Estimated time though. Only sus if theres no comments on the push.

 

[Elhemeer]

The date is always estimated, and it almost always gets pushed a bit as he gets closer. CNG is as consistent as we get in this forum.

 

[NebulousShooter]

From reading the thread, is there anyone still liking the MC, seems to be one of he most hated MC around these parts

 

[MAGO-DAG]

From reading the thread, is there anyone still liking the MC, seems to be one of he most hated MC around these parts

Although... I also talk in my thoughts, and I don’t dare to do anything right away, so I think in my head "Is this possible? Right? Okay, it's not possible."

 

[a1fox3]

From reading the thread, is there anyone still liking the MC, seems to be one of he most hated MC around these parts

There will always be naysayers in every thread.

 

[girlfairdev]

The only thing that puts me off about the MC in this story is his constant moral dilemma nonsense that just simply makes him a guy that would not have this life. He doesn't have independent wealth (the ultimate nerd needs some good looking women trump card). It is not reasonable to accept that such a person would or ever could perpetuate the lifestyle he's now living. Seriously, young lovelies like these would not find themselves drawn to such a guy other than a loving daddy(but he's such a square) or a really nice guy who sold us this apartment (but he's a little odd). If he has any "sex appeal" it is so highly masked by his 'now, now, dear' bs and constant behavior policing like he's everyone's parish pastor. Sure, ok I'll take is as believable that shit would be so sexually attractive to young pretty women with hormones raging. Even more unlikely would be that ALL of them would be tripping over the chance to be with him the way they are.

But as I said in the first line, it's a story. A fiction to boot. Like or don't like what you wish, but I offer no suggestions to the devs of any of these games. I say if you want to be a writer, let's see what you've got. As a reader you've kept my interest this far, so good work. I've read a lot of stories in my lifetime with parts and characters I didn't like. Many of them I still read through. Some of them I still overall liked in spite of the parts or characters I hated. The others that got too bizarre or never got to the point I would quit reading and move on to another story.

My only real fear for this story is it will drag on forever. My biggest hope is that some time soon this story is brought to a climax and equitably concluded. I know that goes against the grain of a lot of players in 'love' with characters or whatever, but IMO this pretty good story has gone on long enough that it's starting to stale a bit. There are always sequels and spinoffs and such but this particular storyline should really be wrapped up before it turns into a soap opera. Characters don't have to disappear with stories ending. They can be written into fresh new storylines.