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latter.Does this mean we need the update to continue? Or can we stick with the original story.
latter.Does this mean we need the update to continue? Or can we stick with the original story.
I'd prefer to see her in a kimono, wrapped with an obi, a cherry blossom in her hair, and chopsticks in her hand, but that's me.Apart from the tragedy surrounding Brandon Lee, am I the only one who would like to see Lilly with a beret, a French silk scarf and a baguette (not Franks) in her hands? Ever since I read “little Frenchwoman” I can't really get that image out of my head.
Was this account hacked or something? I swear he isn't making any sense.
Hope it's just too much to drink and not something like Alzheimer's. He used to be a decent person to interact with.Maybe he isn't making any sense because of his advanced age which he claims to be.
Same here, hope everything is okay on his end.Hope it's just too much to drink and not something like Alzheimer's. He used to be a decent person to interact with.
Strange thing is that posts on other threads are consistent with his past ones. Only on here did it go off the rails. *shrug*Same here, hope everything is okay on his end.
don't think so but you can request it on translation mods.Translation in italiano?
Sorry, digging up an old post here (October 2023!), but I find the topic quite interesting and very relevant to the overall story.I think it's been talked about before in the past, but I think the last update pretty much confirmed it, even if it wasn't said. Frank is not the top chicken but Becca is.
From what we've seen in the side story with Becca, she's been planning what she's trying to do with the family for years.Sorry, digging up an old post here (October 2023!), but I find the topic quite interesting and very relevant to the overall story.
While I totally agree with your pecking order in the current family dynamics (ie Becca first (unofficially), then Frank, then Becca (officially) and the rest of the girls with Lilly first but the gap shrinking), I think Becca is more complex than that and she actually wants *Frank* to be top dog, but he isn't there yet, so meanwhile, she does what needs to be done to bring about what she (and the rest of the family, at least in her mind) wants.
Becca's "dominance" is totally different from that of Shannon, for example. Shannon is the kind of person who sucks all the air out of a room and absolutely needs to dominate/crush others, while Becca is more about leading them gently to where she wants them to go (preferably without them even realizing what is happening). Of course, if need be, she can be blunt and assertive, too (especially with Lilly, who is more about power dynamics than subtlety), but in the end, I'm pretty sure that her dream scenario is the one where, when all the family is together with no secrets and Abby has been brought into the harem to everyone's satisfaction, she relinquishes control over to Frank and falls back to #2 in the pecking order, putting her manipulative tendencies to sleep as long as they're not needed (which doesn't mean that she wouldn't be tempted to "usurp" Frank's power again in her subtle way should the situation warrant it in her mind, ie should he need her active help to get out of a sticky situation).
Also, don't sleep on Mei. I can totally see a scenario in which, despite her very submissive front, she could climb up to #3 without Lilly even realizing it.
No problem, a short year can certainly give us new insights into dynamics, which is definitely the case.Sorry, digging up an old post here (October 2023!), but I find the topic quite interesting and very relevant to the overall story.
While I totally agree with your pecking order in the current family dynamics (ie Becca first (unofficially), then Frank, then Becca (officially) and the rest of the girls with Lilly first but the gap shrinking), I think Becca is more complex than that and she actually wants *Frank* to be top dog, but he isn't there yet, so meanwhile, she does what needs to be done to bring about what she (and the rest of the family, at least in her mind) wants.
Becca's "dominance" is totally different from that of Shannon, for example. Shannon is the kind of person who sucks all the air out of a room and absolutely needs to dominate/crush others, while Becca is more about leading them gently to where she wants them to go (preferably without them even realizing what is happening). Of course, if need be, she can be blunt and assertive, too (especially with Lilly, who is more about power dynamics than subtlety), but in the end, I'm pretty sure that her dream scenario is the one where, when all the family is together with no secrets and Abby has been brought into the harem to everyone's satisfaction, she relinquishes control over to Frank and falls back to #2 in the pecking order, putting her manipulative tendencies to sleep as long as they're not needed (which doesn't mean that she wouldn't be tempted to "usurp" Frank's power again in her subtle way should the situation warrant it in her mind, ie should he need her active help to get out of a sticky situation).
Also, don't sleep on Mei. I can totally see a scenario in which, despite her very submissive front, she could climb up to #3 without Lilly even realizing it.
To clarify, I'm not saying that Mei *wants* to go up in the pecking order (she doesn't, imho), just that it could potentially happen organically over time (her "mistress of punishments" position is bound to give her more confidence in herself, and she may end up with the official position of girlfriend--or even wife--for appearances' sake).No problem, a short year can certainly give us new insights into dynamics, which is definitely the case.
I agree with you that Becca will most likely relinquish her position once all goals have been achieved and from then on will support Frank and the others from the shadows, as she did, for example, to get one over on Lilly's ex and the work colleague. But I could also imagine that towards the end, because some part of her plan doesn't quite work out, Becca has a breakdown (like Abby when she finds out Frank isn't her father or Lilly when she catches her boyfriend cheating and then finds out the truth about her father) and we see more Becca from 5 or more years ago.
I also agree with you that Becca's dominance is different from her mother's. As you describe it yourself, Becca is usually more of the subtle manipulator while Shannon's temperament (very similar to Lilly's temperament) makes her more of a domineering tyrant. Very fittingly, Becca also described her mother as a bully, so Frank could write a book about his marriage to Shannon: The Bully I Once Loved or My Ex the Bully.
So far, however, I disagree with Mei. Despite her fetish, I don't see the need for her to go anywhere big; so far she's happy to be with Frank and get on well with the others. Something very similar to the description Becca once gave of Abby.
I think the pecking order will establish itself in the long term:
Frank
Becca
Abby
Meiko/Lilly
One reason I see for this is that Abby becomes more dominant in her dynamics with others over time, or more and more of her mother's characteristics come to the surface, I refer to the interaction between Abby and Shannon when she realized that Lilly and Becca are gone. Secondly, I could see Lilly becoming more passive. She no longer has to worry about losing Abby, the problem with her father is solved and generally the dynamic in this constellation is much more harmonious than with schoolyard bully Shannon at the top. But I would like to see Lilly, like Abby, get the chance to give her father a piece of her mind. Or her fist, as she has a nasty right hook.
The difference between dominant and domineering is something many fail to see/understand.No problem, a short year can certainly give us new insights into dynamics, which is definitely the case.
I agree with you that Becca will most likely relinquish her position once all goals have been achieved and from then on will support Frank and the others from the shadows, as she did, for example, to get one over on Lilly's ex and the work colleague. But I could also imagine that towards the end, because some part of her plan doesn't quite work out, Becca has a breakdown (like Abby when she finds out Frank isn't her father or Lilly when she catches her boyfriend cheating and then finds out the truth about her father) and we see more Becca from 5 or more years ago.
I also agree with you that Becca's dominance is different from her mother's. As you describe it yourself, Becca is usually more of the subtle manipulator while Shannon's temperament (very similar to Lilly's temperament) makes her more of a domineering tyrant. Very fittingly, Becca also described her mother as a bully, so Frank could write a book about his marriage to Shannon: The Bully I Once Loved or My Ex the Bully.
So far, however, I disagree with Mei. Despite her fetish, I don't see the need for her to go anywhere big; so far she's happy to be with Frank and get on well with the others. Something very similar to the description Becca once gave of Abby.
I think the pecking order will establish itself in the long term:
Frank
Becca
Abby
Meiko/Lilly
One reason I see for this is that Abby becomes more dominant in her dynamics with others over time, or more and more of her mother's characteristics come to the surface, I refer to the interaction between Abby and Shannon when she realized that Lilly and Becca are gone. Secondly, I could see Lilly becoming more passive. She no longer has to worry about losing Abby, the problem with her father is solved and generally the dynamic in this constellation is much more harmonious than with schoolyard bully Shannon at the top. But I would like to see Lilly, like Abby, get the chance to give her father a piece of her mind. Or her fist, as she has a nasty right hook.
That is the same reason why we love her...Oh yes. Becca is a sweetheart at heart, but she can turn full Mama Bear should anyone threaten her family unit.
Lilly tried to accuse Frank to get him oit of the house? I don't remember about it.I suspect that Lily tried to accuse Frank of a crime to get him out of the house. Easiest for a girl would have been alleged abuse. Pretty good reason for Becca to go nucular.
Edit:
Something bugs me about the whole Abby-Lily relationship. Abby adores Frank and is very protective about him, how and why would she have or at least permit herself any amorous feelings towards Lily, who is nothing but nasty and mean to Frank? One would expect her to despise Lily for that...