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yea it wasn't till she said Abuela that I knew
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I remember that but Francesca can also be Italian. That's what I had originally thought.
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Frank is over Shannon, so he only have apathy towards her, having some kind of hurt or jealously would mean he did care for her a bit.
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Absolutely possible. It may well be that the grandmother is from southern Europe, possibly even part Spanish and part Italian. My assumption is that if, for example, only the grandmother was Spanish and the grandfather was Italian, Shannon's first name would probably emphasize that. I assume so:
Grandmother is at least of Spanish descent. It's hard to say whether she's Latina or Hispanic. Shannon could therefore have chosen the name Francesca either as a further reference to her mother's ancestry or because she simply liked it.
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The following things have been going through my mind over the last few days:
Abby's confrontation with her biological father: I don't think she had any doubts about Frank's statements or that her mother told Frank a wild story that he ate up. I think on the one hand she wanted to make it clear to him what she thought of him, also for her mother and Frank. On the other hand, I can also imagine that she wanted to know whether it was the whole truth, that there were possibly things that Jess couldn't know. Because I think she would have made a difference if it had gone like this: Aaron's parents are wealthy and find out that their son has got his girlfriend pregnant, the parents don't want a scandal and force Aaron to persuade Jess to have an abortion. Jess refuses and Aaron comes up with a solution: he wants to take responsibility and at least support her financially. His clique fears that they will lose their buddy and start these rumors, claiming that Aaron is also involved in these rumors. Jess drops out of college and Aaron can't tell Jess that he wants to support her. Had the truth played out this way, I think Abby would have at least had less resentment towards her father. She would never have seen him as a father but would have forgiven him once she had overcome everything and had no problems meeting her half-siblings. But since he only revealed the most necessary things to his wife himself, that would have been very implausible after her “Wha...?”, even if he had claimed it. But I think that she will meet her siblings at least once when she has come to terms with it. I also think that even Jess would advise her to do so, as a core message of this story and its actors is: Children are not responsible for the actions of their parents.
And I think that Lilly and Frank are more similar in certain character traits than they realize.
Both had a severe trauma in the past that was never properly dealt with.
Both have a close friendship with certain redheads with whom they should become best friends and more.
Both would do anything for their best friend to help her.
Both can be quite stubborn. Frank who never gave up on being a father figure to Lilly and Lilly who refused even though Abby and Becca talked her into it and hoped for her father instead.
While neither are stupid, they are played like a fiddle by more manipulative characters (Becca, Shannon).
Both have held on to impossible family images (Frank with Shannon, Lilly with Trevor).
I don't know if it counts as irony, but Frank's worry of rejection/getting it wrong, which is why he never actively tried to start a romance with Jess before Abby, is mirrored for me in the situation where Lilly tried to start a definite relationship with Abby, where she was turned down because, if I recall correctly, Abby thought Lilly was joking.
Abby's confrontation with her biological father: I don't think she had any doubts about Frank's statements or that her mother told Frank a wild story that he ate up. I think on the one hand she wanted to make it clear to him what she thought of him, also for her mother and Frank. On the other hand, I can also imagine that she wanted to know whether it was the whole truth, that there were possibly things that Jess couldn't know. Because I think she would have made a difference if it had gone like this: Aaron's parents are wealthy and find out that their son has got his girlfriend pregnant, the parents don't want a scandal and force Aaron to persuade Jess to have an abortion. Jess refuses and Aaron comes up with a solution: he wants to take responsibility and at least support her financially. His clique fears that they will lose their buddy and start these rumors, claiming that Aaron is also involved in these rumors. Jess drops out of college and Aaron can't tell Jess that he wants to support her. Had the truth played out this way, I think Abby would have at least had less resentment towards her father. She would never have seen him as a father but would have forgiven him once she had overcome everything and had no problems meeting her half-siblings. But since he only revealed the most necessary things to his wife himself, that would have been very implausible after her “Wha...?”, even if he had claimed it. But I think that she will meet her siblings at least once when she has come to terms with it. I also think that even Jess would advise her to do so, as a core message of this story and its actors is: Children are not responsible for the actions of their parents.
And I think that Lilly and Frank are more similar in certain character traits than they realize.
Both had a severe trauma in the past that was never properly dealt with.
Both have a close friendship with certain redheads with whom they should become best friends and more.
Both would do anything for their best friend to help her.
Both can be quite stubborn. Frank who never gave up on being a father figure to Lilly and Lilly who refused even though Abby and Becca talked her into it and hoped for her father instead.
While neither are stupid, they are played like a fiddle by more manipulative characters (Becca, Shannon).
Both have held on to impossible family images (Frank with Shannon, Lilly with Trevor).
I don't know if it counts as irony, but Frank's worry of rejection/getting it wrong, which is why he never actively tried to start a romance with Jess before Abby, is mirrored for me in the situation where Lilly tried to start a definite relationship with Abby, where she was turned down because, if I recall correctly, Abby thought Lilly was joking.
Is it wrong to say something to the effect of "I wish I waited a couple years for this game to have a back log of content", I just finished the latest update available here 1.24.1.1, after taking a decent break back during Lilith longing, I came back had to update. (Though, I still love and long for this game and if given a ticket back in time I wouldn't change a thing.)
This is the first 'this type' of game to actually get me to retain, read and understand the dialogue and the emotions of the story. I am not ashamed to say I cried at a few parts, laughed my butt off at others.
Sometimes with stories I find it difficult to recall certain aspects of the story. Parts that have varying levels of importance. But, I believe I can recall most the important aspects and varying levels of side paths/ story lines. If that makes sense.
Just some thoughts from me.
(Also wanted to add)
I wish I wasn't as addicted as I currently am. I'm like a meth addict, I want more story... Which is really saying something as I stated before story games haven't really been a strong suit for until I came across single again.
This is the first 'this type' of game to actually get me to retain, read and understand the dialogue and the emotions of the story. I am not ashamed to say I cried at a few parts, laughed my butt off at others.
Sometimes with stories I find it difficult to recall certain aspects of the story. Parts that have varying levels of importance. But, I believe I can recall most the important aspects and varying levels of side paths/ story lines. If that makes sense.
Just some thoughts from me.
(Also wanted to add)
I wish I wasn't as addicted as I currently am. I'm like a meth addict, I want more story... Which is really saying something as I stated before story games haven't really been a strong suit for until I came across single again.
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Agreed, I almost barfed when he confirmed that he wanted to abort Abby... Glad she is with us and Jess was strong!
I really like how she is the master mind who orchestrated the majority of the events. While I agree she shouldn't refer to herself as the "bottom b", it is quite fitting.
The fact that even I assumed she must've been with someone but instead was saving herself for us. She feels like such an incredible character.
Before the end of October, let's hope. And if the preview images we saw a while back are anything to go by, get ready for some real quality time with Becca in 1.24.2, lol.
(Better strap on, as Abby would say...
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In the title screen where Lilith, Frank, Abigail, Rebecca, and Mei are walking down the street. On the bench near the tree on the other side of the road, is that Jess?
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I was thinking Madison and Shannon were also in the background.
The only one I wasn't sure about was the woman by the tree.
Madison is the one with the purple hair between frank and lily, Is the one closer to the tree the gym girl, I forget her name.
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the girl sitting on the bench under the tree looks like a redhead to me. but not only have i not gotten my new glasses made, but i never paid attention to the girls in the background. cause im always distracted by Beth and Venessa. Beth looks whats the term, mmm thirsty as fuck for frank. while Venessa is looking at the 5 with a perverted smirk. its like Venessa is imagining Frank and Becca fucking like rabbits. pretty sure Venessa isnt just attracted to Becca but a closet voyeur.