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Apart from the tragedy surrounding Brandon Lee, am I the only one who would like to see Lilly with a beret, a French silk scarf and a baguette (not Franks) in her hands? Ever since I read “little Frenchwoman” I can't really get that image out of my head.
 
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Apart from the tragedy surrounding Brandon Lee, am I the only one who would like to see Lilly with a beret, a French silk scarf and a baguette (not Franks) in her hands? Ever since I read “little Frenchwoman” I can't really get that image out of my head.
I don't think I'll ever be able to get this version of lily out of my head... That would be adorable to see from her.
 

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Apart from the tragedy surrounding Brandon Lee, am I the only one who would like to see Lilly with a beret, a French silk scarf and a baguette (not Franks) in her hands? Ever since I read “little Frenchwoman” I can't really get that image out of my head.
Yeah that would be a pretty cool bonus somewhere in the story. :cool:
 

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Other anecdote: Frank says that if Abby had been a boy, Jess would have named her Draven because of a movie she liked. I looked it up. The movie that comes to mind would be The Crow (1994 makes the most sense) and the character in question would be Eric Draven, originally played by Brandon Lee.
If not from movie then it could be from a game. A little game called League of Legends has champion named Draven. (this is a joke)
 

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Apart from the tragedy surrounding Brandon Lee, am I the only one who would like to see Lilly with a beret, a French silk scarf and a baguette (not Franks) in her hands? Ever since I read “little Frenchwoman” I can't really get that image out of my head.
I'd prefer to see her in a kimono, wrapped with an obi, a cherry blossom in her hair, and chopsticks in her hand, but that's me.
 
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Regarding the people who are upset about Lilly and Abby, does anyone happen to know if there's a major overlap with the people who are upset about Frank's insecurity? It would be a bit funny if that were the case.

I was going through the plot today and I noticed that there was a discussion that a potential Latino or Hispanic background for the Oxton girls didn't come up until Rebecca's side story. We were wrong about that. On the day Lilly finds out what her ex-boyfriend and her father have been up to, the following dialog between Becca and Lilly occurred:

Becca: How was it? Best taco you've ever eaten Lil?
Lilly: ...
Becca: Be honest.
Lilly: ... Abue's are better.
(...)
Becca: Yeah... Well... She has like sixty years on me.

As someone with no knowledge of Spanish, it wasn't obvious to me, but with the realization from Becca's story, it is of course obvious that Abue is short for Abuela.
 

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I think it's been talked about before in the past, but I think the last update pretty much confirmed it, even if it wasn't said. Frank is not the top chicken but Becca is.
Sorry, digging up an old post here (October 2023!), but I find the topic quite interesting and very relevant to the overall story.

While I totally agree with your pecking order in the current family dynamics (ie Becca first (unofficially), then Frank, then Becca (officially) and the rest of the girls with Lilly first but the gap shrinking), I think Becca is more complex than that and she actually wants *Frank* to be top dog, but he isn't there yet, so meanwhile, she does what needs to be done to bring about what she (and the rest of the family, at least in her mind) wants.

Becca's "dominance" is totally different from that of Shannon, for example. Shannon is the kind of person who sucks all the air out of a room and absolutely needs to dominate/crush others, while Becca is more about leading them gently to where she wants them to go (preferably without them even realizing what is happening). Of course, if need be, she can be blunt and assertive, too (especially with Lilly, who is more about power dynamics than subtlety), but in the end, I'm pretty sure that her dream scenario is the one where, when all the family is together with no secrets and Abby has been brought into the harem to everyone's satisfaction, she relinquishes control over to Frank and falls back to #2 in the pecking order, putting her manipulative tendencies to sleep as long as they're not needed (which doesn't mean that she wouldn't be tempted to "usurp" Frank's power again in her subtle way should the situation warrant it in her mind, ie should he need her active help to get out of a sticky situation).

Also, don't sleep on Mei. I can totally see a scenario in which, despite her very submissive front, she could climb up to #3 without Lilly even realizing it. ;)
 
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Sorry, digging up an old post here (October 2023!), but I find the topic quite interesting and very relevant to the overall story.

While I totally agree with your pecking order in the current family dynamics (ie Becca first (unofficially), then Frank, then Becca (officially) and the rest of the girls with Lilly first but the gap shrinking), I think Becca is more complex than that and she actually wants *Frank* to be top dog, but he isn't there yet, so meanwhile, she does what needs to be done to bring about what she (and the rest of the family, at least in her mind) wants.

Becca's "dominance" is totally different from that of Shannon, for example. Shannon is the kind of person who sucks all the air out of a room and absolutely needs to dominate/crush others, while Becca is more about leading them gently to where she wants them to go (preferably without them even realizing what is happening). Of course, if need be, she can be blunt and assertive, too (especially with Lilly, who is more about power dynamics than subtlety), but in the end, I'm pretty sure that her dream scenario is the one where, when all the family is together with no secrets and Abby has been brought into the harem to everyone's satisfaction, she relinquishes control over to Frank and falls back to #2 in the pecking order, putting her manipulative tendencies to sleep as long as they're not needed (which doesn't mean that she wouldn't be tempted to "usurp" Frank's power again in her subtle way should the situation warrant it in her mind, ie should he need her active help to get out of a sticky situation).

Also, don't sleep on Mei. I can totally see a scenario in which, despite her very submissive front, she could climb up to #3 without Lilly even realizing it. ;)
From what we've seen in the side story with Becca, she's been planning what she's trying to do with the family for years.
I have a feeling that once her plan is finalized she'll step back a bit and just enjoy the fruits of her labor.

As for Mei, I don't see her ever trying to climb any higher in the hierarchy. While she does enjoy the kink of seeing the others "punished", it doesn't seem like she wants to be above them in any other aspect.

That's just my take on it. Time will tell.
 
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