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NewTricks
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The tragedy is that there is a serious misalignment between the feelings that Lily has for Abby and the feelings that Abby has in turn. I think that we have all had a relationship like this. In the context of the game, though, it is a malfunctioning love triangle where all the romantic love is flowing in one direction through the three partners involved. It is kind of like this recycling symbol.
Lily has romantic feelings for Abby, Abby has romantic feelings for Frank, Frank has romantic feelings for Lily. The only one reciprocating in both directions is Lily, and yet she is the one who gets the brunt of the distain. Since Abby has been putting Lily in the friends with benefits zone this makes Abby the hinge of the polycule, but this doesn't work in accordance with Becca's machinations. While this relationship may work for a while, it is only currently functioning because Frank is unfortunatly used to his partner focusing her entire energy elsewhere. Abby has been dismissive of Lily's feelings to a point that I think that she is Shannon's true daughter, having learned all the wrong lessons regarding how to treat people from her stepmother. This relationship is a bomb and it will explode, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it is Becca who is going to light the match.
Lily has romantic feelings for Abby, Abby has romantic feelings for Frank, Frank has romantic feelings for Lily. The only one reciprocating in both directions is Lily, and yet she is the one who gets the brunt of the distain. Since Abby has been putting Lily in the friends with benefits zone this makes Abby the hinge of the polycule, but this doesn't work in accordance with Becca's machinations. While this relationship may work for a while, it is only currently functioning because Frank is unfortunatly used to his partner focusing her entire energy elsewhere. Abby has been dismissive of Lily's feelings to a point that I think that she is Shannon's true daughter, having learned all the wrong lessons regarding how to treat people from her stepmother. This relationship is a bomb and it will explode, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it is Becca who is going to light the match.
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She did, yes. Which seems like an attempt to downplay it to Frank, possibly out of embarrassment or because she doesn't want him to think she only likes girls. In any case, when they were originally talking in the diner scene, she admitted that there's more to it than just sex for both of them, though it is certainly obvious that it's more serious for Lil than it is for Abby.
Abby and Lily love each other, and both enjoy their sexual relationship, as they have for years. Lily is simply more in love with Abby, and Abby isn't sure if she's in love with Lily the same way. It isn't even clear if she's tried to figure that out, or if her feeling for Frank are stopping her from exploring the idea.
Maybe in the next update we will get a family meeting with Rebecca, Lily and Abigail, to hopefully get to the bottom of this. Or just Lil and Becca and Becca will speak to abby to hopefully get her to talk to lily in a candid conversation and admit that she doesn't feel like lil's does? If that makes any sense.
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CNG tried to do that in the last update with a talk between Frank and Abby.
It actually seemed to help Abby admit that she had feelings for Lily beyond the sister/fuckbuddy dynamic they'd enjoyed up until then.
But people went ballistic with that conversation, saying that it meant one of the harem members would be with someone other than Frank and that they wouldn't accept it.
So, with a quick patch update, Clever caved and rolled back the dialogue, cut it down, and made it only about Abby asking to be allowed to buy a sex toy, so Lily could enjoy it while she wasn't dating any guys.
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and thats the point ... and others including you .. want content that you want not what we should get ... so in essence make the dev follow the path you and others want , not the path the dev led us to believe we would get
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Ex-dragon wasn't stepmother of Abby (mother figure more likely) and she didn't care that much of her.
won't be beccy's bloodtest about frank.
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As for Lilly, I was thinking more along the lines of her possibly trying to sabotage Frank and Shannon's marriage or saying something along the lines of Frank can die as far as she's concerned. Lilly will have had some plan that went against what Frank said, Becca wanted to stop her, Lilly says Frank can drop dead as far as she's concerned, a fight breaks out, Becca is legitimately pissed and mentions her father. Probably something along the lines that it's no wonder her father never cared about her the way she's acting.
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Dr. Mick
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Abby is Frank's adopted daughter. So when Frank married Shannon, she became Abby's stepmother.Ex-dragon wasn't stepmother of Abby (mother figure more likely) and she didn't care that much of her.
won't be beccy's bloodtest about frank.
Which was nullified after the divorce, so now they are nothing to each other, except antagonists.
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explain what? abby is frank's girl (well stepdaughter) and frank married shannon so that abby had mother figure (stepmother or something else). becky being frank's blood daughter is 1 of most speculated thing on thread.
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cxx
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well not that easy to notice sarcasm on written text.
Dr. Mick
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I didn't say that the dev shouldn't eventually have Abby as a love interest for Frank.and thats the point ... and others including you .. want content that you want not what we should get ... so in essence make the dev follow the path you and others want , not the path the dev led us to believe we would get
What I had stated is that I don't care if they do or not.
Unlike the people who griped so much that they got CNG to change the story to the way they wanted it, I'd prefer the author tell their story, rather than being pushed into changing it.
Even if I would rather have more content with one of the girls, or less content with another, it isn't my story. So, I'm going to enjoy reading it, and occasionally comment on how I feel about what's going on.
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It's not content I want...it's content already in the damn game and story before the damn game starts!and thats the point ... and others including you .. want content that you want not what we should get ... so in essence make the dev follow the path you and others want , not the path the dev led us to believe we would get
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Wait what? When did this happen? I clearly haven't played that version, the last version I played had Lily and Abby actually dating by the time Frank does the whole "calling her Becca" thing.CNG tried to do that in the last update with a talk between Frank and Abby.
It actually seemed to help Abby admit that she had feelings for Lily beyond the sister/fuckbuddy dynamic they'd enjoyed up until then.
But people went ballistic with that conversation, saying that it meant one of the harem members would be with someone other than Frank and that they wouldn't accept it.
So, with a quick patch update, Clever caved and rolled back the dialogue, cut it down, and made it only about Abby asking to be allowed to buy a sex toy, so Lily could enjoy it while she wasn't dating any guys.
That is so messed up. I swear there's a vocal minority of people who are so bloody hung up on their incel ideals of purity that they see NTR even when there is literally nothing there. Damn.
Can you try writing out an argument that doesn't try to insult and denigrate someone's argument by calling them an "Incel"?
And when it comes to people who see NTR in things, Is it not the person who feels they are being cheated on and not the one doing the act? (This is more so just asking for clarifications because I have seen conflicting definitions when it comes to netorare though I just generally think it has to do with cheating.)
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Well, that is an interesting question. As everyone is different, there is no way to really tell without my divulging information about what I think and why. For that reason, my answer may surprise some people.
Incest is not my biggest issue with this story. Father/daughter incest is not my thing, but I understand it is a fetish for some. In fact, I am not really a fan of incest in general. How unappealing I find it ranges across a spectrum, with older brother/younger sister being the most palatable and mother/son being the least. It is interesting to consider the psychology behind all of that.
Getting back to the topic at hand, what really bothers me in any story is coercion. I have a strong belief that healthy relationships are based on mutual consent, so the less consent a character has in the relationship, the more it bothers me. If the two characters love each other, and they both freely choose the relationship, I can accept that. But pushing a character to do something against his or her nature, whether from manipulation, blackmail, torture, or whatever, I find all of that abhorrent. The stronger the coercion, the more I dislike it.
I hope that answers your question.