DaFinker

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idk why people hating on our boy frank,
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They've stated clearly: they only want to fap and don't understand the "N" part of Adult Visual NOVEL. There's a story. Part of the story here is the intellectual and emotional struggle of a man in an absurd situation. I guess all connections to even the vaguest bit of reality have to be abandoned for any of them to be happy. Plus, they probably can't even spell "intellectual" - they certainly don't know what it means.

They should all probably just grab R34 type site porn loops and be done with it since they don't understand in the least what the "N" stands for. Those folks are the reason the average IQ of this place will be, at best, the number in the name, though the reality is that it should likely be changed to "F85" based on what I've seen the last few years.
 

Krocx

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8gb of chatting...
Read a book instead.
Women created this game? ;)
The sad part is that if you remove all of franks constant bitching the game is probably only 1.5 gigs at most. I have not played since I posted my review but check the forum every update to see if anything has changed.....and it never does. Half the people bitching about frank and the lack of anything with abby (the main reason most people even tried the game) and the other half bitching about supporting the dev and how the other half is wrong. I should have just hit the ignore button as I downloaded the game last update and went through the images to see the game still has nothing worth torturing myself with by dealing with frank to even bother playing.
 

Krocx

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They've stated clearly: they only want to fap and don't understand the "N" part of Adult Visual NOVEL. There's a story. Part of the story here is the intellectual and emotional struggle of a man in an absurd situation. I guess all connections to even the vaguest bit of reality have to be abandoned for any of them to be happy. Plus, they probably can't even spell "intellectual" - they certainly don't know what it means.

They should all probably just grab R34 type site porn loops and be done with it since they don't understand in the least what the "N" stands for. Those folks are the reason the average IQ of this place will be, at best, the number in the name, though the reality is that it should likely be changed to "F85" based on what I've seen the last few years.
I understand the point of the N being novel but I and many want a basic level of competent storytelling not endless hours of a guy crying until Becca holds his hand and tells him what to do. Probably half the games I played from this site I have read the dialog, but there are some like this game that are not only bad but migraine inducing bad they are not worth reading. If I wanted to hear someone whine about his life for hours on end I would go back to being a bartender or I would go to college and become a therapist so I would at least make money off listening to the guy.
 
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Chillout1984

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To be honest, I don't mind Frank's bitching that much and imo it's understandable: It's logical for a dad the promise to keep his daughter safe in his mind means doing nothing sexual with her. The difference between Abby and the rest, is that he acted as her dad since her birth, so it's normal that he would have much more trouble dating her than the other 2 girls. Add to this his promise to/veto by Lilith and there is more than enough reason for him to fight it even more.

What I find way more annoying is how "aggressive" Abby has become recently. Before it was sort of cute, but especially this patch the whole conversation is "Not now, but later. Not now, but later." I don't mind if this conversation is repeated multiple times across the game, but about the whole conversation in the beginning of this patch were the same dialogue repeated for a veery long time, but using other words. After that conversation however, this patch became fun again for whole remaining patch imo.
 

godscoper

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One would think that after banging his 2 other daughters and with their incentive he would gradually start to embrace the idea.
If he never embraces the idea and his "paternal instincts" win out what exactly is the story he's trying to tell?

No matter how much time has passed inside the story, the "i must resist this temptation" has become old years ago...
When the guy has been dealing with this temptation since day 3-4 of the story, it doesn't matter if it's been only 30 days, 60 days or 180 days since they moved in... it's old by now.
This poor dead horse has been beaten for waaay to long.

People arguing that "it's realistic" have no sense of story telling or pacing.
If it maintains a realistic concept, the game will take another 4 years before we see them together without MC fighting with his mind.
 
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LSC82

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If it maintains a realistic concept, the game will take another 4 years before we see them together without MC fighting with his mind.
This is why in movies and TV time moves fast, focussing on big events not day to day stuff.
6 months, 180 days of "i shouldn't do this" is unbearable, hearing the same thing for 10 days is already boring enough...

If you want to show the MCs life day by day it's better if he's fast to make up his mind, because for us it gets old reading the same stuff over and over.
And it also creates a disconnect between the player and the character he's suppoused to be controlling/embodying, because we are in completely different frames of mind.
 
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Five year old VN. But I'm not sure if even five weeks have passed in-game. I don't know how long it would take you to decide to fuck a girl you raised as your daughter from birth, but if it's less than five weeks from zero to balls deep, you probably need counseling because you certainly don't have a conscience or paternal instincts. ;)
are you serious? this folk is what happens when you watch/play usual generic games/show/novels and you end up with this guy mentality like every genz im ashamed/disgraced that even i were born along with this generation.

also curious what are the changes today patch?
 

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fucking hell this update was fucking fire, no holding back any more I guess :ROFLMAO:
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Okay, so, no pills, but yeah, that was pretty great, especially Lilly's complete surrender at the end, after Becca has been wearing down her defenses for a while by sheer love and stubbornness (interspersed with a good dose of bitchiness, sisters being sisters :LOL:), and something tells me that her new nichname for her sister ("Mom") will see a fair bit of use from now on (the harem dynamics are now fully in place as far as these two and Mei are concerned, and Lilly's epiphany should also help her accept certain things in the future--I mean, if her "real mom" (not that bitch Shannon) says it's okay and shows her it is... ;))

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I'd like to respond to the latest comments, which attempt to speculate about her sexual relationship with Abby, the threesome, foursome, and fivesome. First... Lilith's truth will fall apart sooner or later, after she learns of Abby's confession (she'll be upset for a while, but she'll get over it). Second... all of Frank's uncertainties will surely vanish, IF (or rather, WHEN) he discovers that Becca is his biological daughter (an enormous amount of clues lead one to deduce that this is Becca's big secret).
 
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I'd like to respond to the latest comments, which attempt to speculate about her sexual relationship with Abby, the threesome, foursome, and fivesome. First... Lilith's truth will fall apart sooner or later, after she learns of Abby's confession (she'll be upset for a while, but she'll get over it). Second... all of Frank's uncertainties will surely vanish, IF (or rather, WHEN) he discovers that Becca is his biological daughter (an enormous amount of clues lead one to deduce that this is Becca's big secret).
Which is never going to happen unless it hits Steam (which it won't). If you think Subscribestar will indefinitely hold off on not policing their own ToS (or caving to the processors) and following every every other sites protocol then people are either very naive or persistantly hopeful.
 
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Which is never going to happen unless it hits Steam (which it won't). If you think Subscribestar will indefinitely hold off on not policing their own ToS (or caving to the processors) and following every every other sites protocol then people are either very naive or persistantly hopeful.
I am not disregarding your statement but instead adding that soon sites like this will become under fire as well
 

JQuillon

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Which is never going to happen unless it hits Steam (which it won't). If you think Subscribestar will indefinitely hold off on not policing their own ToS (or caving to the processors) and following every every other sites protocol then people are either very naive or persistantly hopeful.
Hope is good, but I guess if all else fails, there's still the option to search and replace all instances of daddy/father by caretaker, and daughter by ward (somehow, considering the plot, the usual landlord/tenant dynamic would feel a bit far-fetched for SA :LOL:).

Hope it doesn't come to that and CNG has time to finish the game as is, though (which realistically won't happen until at least a couple more years, probably more like 3-4 now that there's another game on the side, so I guess we'll have to keep our fingers crossed and see what happens).
 

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I'd like to respond to the latest comments, which attempt to speculate about her sexual relationship with Abby, the threesome, foursome, and fivesome. First... Lilith's truth will fall apart sooner or later, after she learns of Abby's confession (she'll be upset for a while, but she'll get over it). Second... all of Frank's uncertainties will surely vanish, IF (or rather, WHEN) he discovers that Becca is his biological daughter (an enormous amount of clues lead one to deduce that this is Becca's big secret).
but you really want to this point that becca is the mc's daughter by affirming things that are not revealed for the moment it is just speculations and theories, the author can very well decide other things in the future, for abby I am very happy that he does not fuck her after each his tastes
 

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They've stated clearly: they only want to fap and don't understand the "N" part of Adult Visual NOVEL. There's a story. Part of the story here is the intellectual and emotional struggle of a man in an absurd situation.
I'm not sure if you really understand the "novel" part, either. Hint: your typical novel has between 70-100k words total. And no, generally it doesn't spend 50% of those words or more on the character repeating the same two thoughts ad nauseam. It also benefits from having editor who will mercilessly cut what's nothing but tiresome padding which doesn't contribute anything to the story that wasn't already established and doesn't move it along.

tl;dr: as far as novels go, this game is a rather poor approximation of one.
 

JQuillon

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I'm guessing pregnancy and stuff isn't planned. But, I mean it wouldn't work anyway in this game.
To have pregnancy in a game, you need a male character with balls, so that would be quite a thing to try to explain
What would we do without trolls who endlessly parrot the same talking points without ever playing the game? :LOL:
 

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Remember 2-3 years ago when we could set flags for threesomes with the Big Beautiful Waitress at the diner and Nyla the cashier at the shop (and Darla the bar manager's younger sister) Frank and Lilly got her new handbag and cocktail dress from? It'd be nice if we could get some updates and follow through on those.

Not a bad update, but more of Frank's internal monologue being the only source of resistance and antagonism in this story, The at this point performative reluctance is to be expected but it can still grate when it's about the only clearly expressed part of his personality besides "will not recognize women coming onto him unless they do exactly what Becca and Abby have done and been extremely physically aggressive and in his face with it." Even that wasn't entirely working for Abby until she explicitly told Frank he was her man, she would have no other, and he will be giving her dick + babies in the future and it's only a matter of time. She even told him her sleeping fully nude, and sleeping cupping his junk is to reinforce that she will have no other and to break down his resistance. She has him dead to rights; its only a matter of time, just like how Becca dealt with him.

Lilly will likely be easier to sway about Abby once she has threesomes with Frank and Becca and depending on the flag set earlier with Mei or Nyla and also Becca can sell the idea as "You get to have a threeway with your BF and GF, the two people you love the most." Will probably do her in. The point Mei made to Frank about he and Abby would also help sway Lilly, because as Becca has said she's greedy and possessive about Abby's time and affection, and they love and want each other just like Lilly loves and wants both Abby and Frank, she'll get it. I don't remember who mentioned it earlier these last few pages (sorry) but yeah it doesn't seem like anyone on the dev side replay and take notes on what's happening in the plot (or to correct spelling and grammar errors) because every update past the hotel bar detante (you remember, the empty bar in the morning where that bartender overheard everything Frank, Becca, and Lilly talked about?) CNG's writing has just retconned that Lilly has no clue that Beth and Nessa may ask for Frank to be a sperm donor for their child, when it should just be "doesn't know that they already asked Frank" and had been explicitly told by Becca and Frank he is up for consideration, and that it is something Lilly should think about in case they ask. Frank is being written as treating the sperm donor question like a timebomb for Lilly's mood, which doesn't speak well for Frank's confidence in how sustained her affections will be in the future.

I'm one of the people (there are dozens of us!) that likes Mei and new content with her. A bit over two weeks game time until she gets turnt, but first there's Lilly's solo Friday night date and the sleepover at Abby's apartment. So, about 3.5 year IRL, given CNG has Mythic Desires to slot in occasionally to keep Patreon going in a legitamish fashion.
 

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I'm guessing pregnancy and stuff isn't planned. But, I mean it wouldn't work anyway in this game.
To have pregnancy in a game, you need a male character with balls, so that would be quite a thing to try to explain
I'm guessing someone hasn't been keeping up or tabbed through all the dialogue....
 

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I swear...no developer makes me literally yell at the screen and feel total anger filled frustration like this one. I'm good with the girls, I'm good with the story, i just hate... HATE the MC's thoughts, feelings, pretty much their existence. *Puts soap box away*
 
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Its clear this game AVN is a dud, the latest few reviews show the same thing conclusion, I and I suppose others, have just been holding out and honestly, no clue why, the writing was against the wall long ago. The MC is still a beta, who is hung up about the moral of sleeping with his "not biological" daughter but sleeps with his other "not biological" daughters. The MC is basically living the dream, but rejects it more than accepts it. This AVN could actually have been much better, if the MC embraced this chance with all these woman, encouraged it and pushed it new levels and kinks, that would have been a good mid point that concludes with some or other happy ever after with tons of pregnant woman, or something along those line.

As it is, with non of the aforementioned, this AVN could have ended years ago, the updates and content were basically frequent and enough, its the actual content that has drawn it out with with monotonous drivel, moral dilemmas and half hearted attempts not to fuck each woman...NEWS FLASH!, ADULT VN is pretty much what the players signed up for.
as I understand the idea of this story - to piss off those who are used to lying to themselves and not seeing obvious things, refusing to see the obvious. the author has coped with this idea quite successfully.
this is in order to see yourself from the outside and get very angry at the MC, but in fact get angry at yourself, and - maybe try to work on yourself for the better, of course, if the person still has time to change. we all sometimes need a kick in the ass to start moving.
"the eagle is a proud bird, until you kick it, it won't fly!"(c)russian urban proverb
in other words, eagles, take note.
 
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