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Kitchentable

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I actually did although I wasn't always sure I would.
It's weird after so many years to have to "find" ones self again. The person I was back in the day, before the accident, and who I became over the years with oxy and codein as trusty companions, is not who I am today. Trying to figure out who and what I am after having been a thrall to my pains and the painkillers has been quite difficult.
The depression is still there and my back as a whole is not okay, but I am now one years clean, come April (I think). My memory has taken a severe hit from all the years on oxy and codein I reckon. Maybe even from my bouts with Covid over the years - who knows.

Cheers - Kaffekop
I know it's the anonymous internet but keep pushing through mate!
 
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Kaffekop

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is there any lesbian or girl on girl stuff planned and if so can it be avoided
There already is and yes there will be more.
Technically it is avoidable because you can choose to not pursue the girls/women who have that particular inclination, like Jocelyn, the twins, and Marsha from next door. These are the most flaunting ones but there will be others who swing both ways or only one and where you can get involved.
You do get hints at what can be expected from the women before you make a commitment though. Again, technically it is possible to avoid.
There are a few scenes that are absolutely unavoidable as they set the scene for the neighborhood and some of the neighbors, but a few quick hits to the spacebar will move you safely along.
I hope it helps.

Cheers - Kaffekop
 

Ursus4321

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When the word "technically" is introduced, things are not clear. And if, to avoid it, you also have to not chase several of the girls and you also say that apart from those there will be more who swing both ways, it's not like things get better. I would say, gamer if you don't like lesbians play this at your own risk or move on to something else
 
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Raboobie

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is there any lesbian or girl on girl stuff planned and if so can it be avoided
There already is and yes there will be more.
Technically it is avoidable because you can choose to not pursue the girls/women who have that particular inclination, like Jocelyn, the twins, and Marsha from next door. These are the most flaunting ones but there will be others who swing both ways or only one and where you can get involved.
You do get hints at what can be expected from the women before you make a commitment though. Again, technically it is possible to avoid.
There are a few scenes that are absolutely unavoidable as they set the scene for the neighborhood and some of the neighbors, but a few quick hits to the spacebar will move you safely along.
I hope it helps.

Cheers - Kaffekop
I would say just be careful when choosing to avoid LI. From a quote I've seen attributed to the Dev, though I can't find it myself you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

For e.g the one I saw accredited to the dev, was that if you reject Jocelyn, then she'll start exploring her sexuality with guys from school, her professor and half the women.

"Let's say that you chose not to get involved with Jocelyn. This means that she will still be experimenting with her sexuality, she will just have to do it without you. In this case Gina, Tamara, Barbara, Helen and maybe Marsha will turn out to become major players in her life. As will one or two guys from school, and maybe even a professor. The same principle can be applied to all the women that you meet in the project."

Kaffekop I hope you can confirm or deny if that quote is accurate because it seems like it's conflicting a little with what you said in the quoted on.
 
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ANDERSONKUN1

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at the time I hated the plot of the MC being adopted and I still do, this needs to be resolved with a true patch
 

Wen I Say

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It's been a while since I played this and I vaguely remember what this was about. That being said hot damn did this age poorly this VN is rusty as hell, there is something here but SOTF needs a facelift badly and some dialogue corrections, and an overall story reboot. I never advocate for these things primarily but the game could have legs if it was more fleshed out, looked better, and if the story even remotely made sense I see what you're going for but this aint it imo, but it's awesome that your back and ready to work good luck to you brother.
 

greggus

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Not trolling but does the writing improve once you get past the prologue because it does not inspire confidence. One of the sister joins some sort of 90s era London punk "gang" while the other gets addicted to the evil reefer however apparently they had the money to move to a new place the whole time yet decide to stay there and wallow until the MC goes "hey we should stop feel bad"? :HideThePain: I get its a "prologue" and sets up the story but it feels like it's "trying too hard" to be dramatic?

I see multiple mentions of the story being one of the better parts of this game but I'm pretty sure even in 2017 this wouldn't have inspired confidence.
Well things change after prolog, but...
Sisters acts more like thinking persons, where our MC become Shutbrained drolling idiot.
But frankly, porngame where MC is not an idiot is rare enough.
 

Kaffekop

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I would say just be careful when choosing to avoid LI. From a quote I've seen attributed to the Dev, though I can't find it myself you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

For e.g the one I saw accredited to the dev, was that if you reject Jocelyn, then she'll start exploring her sexuality with guys from school, her professor and half the women.

"Let's say that you chose not to get involved with Jocelyn. This means that she will still be experimenting with her sexuality, she will just have to do it without you. In this case Gina, Tamara, Barbara, Helen and maybe Marsha will turn out to become major players in her life. As will one or two guys from school, and maybe even a professor. The same principle can be applied to all the women that you meet in the project."

Kaffekop I hope you can confirm or deny if that quote is accurate because it seems like it's conflicting a little with what you said in the quoted on.
I do seem to remember saying that part, keep in mind though that my memory is a tad addled. But it seems to be on point with what I just said - or am I missing something.
Do understand that English is not my first language, so I may miss something here and there, although I don't think I do here.

Let me try to clarify what I mean.
Already, if you opt out of Jocelyn's path, she is doing her own thing, and yes, you do get a small glimpse of what happens between the twins and her in v. 0.8 if you have made that choice. I do believe that it is only one image, but yeah ... there is that.
When I answered the other guy I was thinking of entire scenes and not "just" one image where the mc accidentally bump into Jocelyn and her friends, or any other accidental situation between girls/women. I should have been clearer in my answer.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Cheers - Kaffekop
 

Kaffekop

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Can mc have sex with Mary up to now?
Well, apparently you can't (I think I saw a post to that effect earlier).
Mind you that I am but 56 years old and that the meaning of words and sayings do change over time, but I am pretty sure, in my admittedly limited experience with life and women, that "having sex" still means something other than just/only penetration.

If you do believe that "having sex" is only about penetration then I weep for the women with whom you are involved, and then it is a clear and resounding: NO.
If, however, you believe that "having sex" is so much more than simple penetration, then you are indeed in luck with 0.8., meaning that Mary and mc do indeed get to spend some quality time together.

Be certain that 0.9 will start you off with a "bang", if you have chosen Mary.

Cheers - Kaffekop
 

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Kaffekop

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While the story is interesting, the graphics is bit outdated. I hope for a proper remaster or reboot.
I will be going over older content and do graphical updates while moving forward, but moving forward is the priority.
I tried to transfer Mary from gen3 to gen8 (the base models that are used in DAZ to create the characters, where gen3 is the older one today), but I just couldn't get her to look right, so I abandoned that concept.

Cheers - Kaffekop
 

snow123789456

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I will be going over older content and do graphical updates while moving forward, but moving forward is the priority.
I tried to transfer Mary from gen3 to gen8 (the base models that are used in DAZ to create the characters, where gen3 is the older one today), but I just couldn't get her to look right, so I abandoned that concept.

Cheers - Kaffekop
Thanks for the answer. While, I am not a programmer, I am sure there are people in this channel who would love to help you in graphical updates. Thanks for the game. :)
 
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