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Kaffekop

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There are some things which will require fixing though.
As an example, on my playthrough, MC never had any sexual encounters with Samantha, yet he mentions it when deletes stuff from Dylan's drive.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
It has been added to my to-do list.

I have a question though: Have you set the variable $SpyderTrust to 6 or more, yourself?
If so, then that is the problem, if not ... then it is indeed something I need to fix on my end.

Cheers - Kaffekop
 

ScrewMe

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Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
It has been added to my to-do list.

I have a question though: Have you set the variable $SpyderTrust to 6 or more, yourself?
If so, then that is the problem, if not ... then it is indeed something I need to fix on my end.

Cheers - Kaffekop
Nah, haven't used anything.
But there was some weird stuff in texts, like bringing up Mary touching herself on Morning of July, 29th despite MC rubbing her belly and not having her touching herself the night earlier(and that's a possibility on one of different paths, I guess).
Some paths got intertwined, it seems.
 

Kaffekop

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Nah, haven't used anything.
But there was some weird stuff in texts, like bringing up Mary touching herself on Morning of July, 29th despite MC rubbing her belly and not having her touching herself the night earlier(and that's a possibility on one of different paths, I guess).
Some paths got intertwined, it seems.
I will look into it,.
Thank you for the answer.

Cheers - Kaffekop
 
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MrBaitor

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Oh boy oh boy! A new update after so long... I am so glad you came back and you continue this project Mr Kaffekop! It has been one of my first games played here (the very first was cohabitation - yeah i know, needless information).

As for the ntr tag, well... as long as you can actually bone the person who messes with your "toys", or even better bone the person WHILE he messes with your "toys", I don't see any reason why people get so upset over this. Anyway, I guess, it's all personal choices and tastes.
You all have a nice day now!
 

albul

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So, I guess I really need a walkthrough for this, because I have no idea how this game works. I tried to pursue Nat and chose her whenever I got the option, but I got no sex scenes with her, even though I could see there were some when I checked the images folder. Is she dependent on some stats or choosing someone else or a specific (unrelated) decision?

Edit: apparently, Marsha is required for this, otherwise you don't get enough points with Nat to open her path (or I didn't find how)
 
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Kaffekop

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I tried giving Mary a graphical update from an older model to a newer model (from gen3 to gen8)
Here is a quick comparison between the two.
They look somewhat different, but I haven't been able to match the tan exactly and there are more polygons in a gen8 model.
Also the hair is not designed for a gen8 model.
What do you think? Something I should continue with the other characters?
All in all I like the newer model ...
I am not saying that I will absolutely change Mary to the newer model, I'm just curious as to what you guys think.

OrigMary&updateMary.jpg OrigMary&updateMary2.jpg

Cheers - Kaffekop
 

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I tried giving Mary a graphical update from an older model to a newer model (from gen3 to gen8)
Here is a quick comparison between the two.
They look somewhat different, but I haven't been able to match the tan exactly and there are more polygons in a gen8 model.
Also the hair is not designed for a gen8 model.
What do you think? Something I should continue with the other characters?
All in all I like the newer model ...
I am not saying that I will absolutely change Mary to the newer model, I'm just curious as to what you guys think.

View attachment 3337263

Cheers - Kaffekop
The body and darker tan is ok on the Right side which I presume is the gen8 model.
They seem to sunbath a lot in story so thats not a problem.
But honestly the face is all wrong.
It has fuller with less defined cheekbones than the original but more importantly.
The Right's eyes and eyebrow's are too diferent especially the eyes.
(the eyes was one of the things that I found most attractive in Mary and the eyebrows excentuated the eyes)
Left looks like there could possibly be thought going on behind them.
Rights eye's especially with her eyebrow's look's erm.... kindda vacant.
In all honesly the feactures are so diffrent that the Right wouldn't even be able to pass as Left's sister let alone Left herself.
So I'd rather stick with Original Mary but thats ONLY my opinion.
Just sayin.
 

t3ace

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Kaffekop, i've been waiting patiently for this day to come. Thank you very much for not giving up and giving us this marvellous game. I'm gonna start your game all over again not to miss anything of it! In regards to Mary, i very much prefer the older model.
 

Kaffekop

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It is funny.
When I worked on the new model, trying to tweak a thing, here and there, they looked very similar to me.
Seeing them again I realize that they are very different facially. I do also like the original Mary better.
Strange.

Cheers - Kaffekop
 

Danv

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I tried giving Mary a graphical update from an older model to a newer model (from gen3 to gen8)
Here is a quick comparison between the two.
They look somewhat different, but I haven't been able to match the tan exactly and there are more polygons in a gen8 model.
Also the hair is not designed for a gen8 model.
What do you think? Something I should continue with the other characters?
All in all I like the newer model ...
I am not saying that I will absolutely change Mary to the newer model, I'm just curious as to what you guys think.

View attachment 3337263 View attachment 3337264

Cheers - Kaffekop
aside from nipples - older model is better in everything
face texture, shape, expression, makeup, skin color... even bush down below
 

Jack Adams

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It is funny.
When I worked on the new model, trying to tweak a thing, here and there, they looked very similar to me.
Seeing them again I realize that they are very different facially. I do also like the original Mary better.
Strange.

Cheers - Kaffekop
Kaffekop,
Time has passed since the inception of your intriguing game for reasons that were outside your control. Upon returning to this project I am sure that you found that the world of DAZ and other support software has been merrily advancing along. It is natural for a conscientious developer to deliver the best product possible. However my personal take on Mary is defined largely by two things:
The first is that over time her appearance (for those who have loyally followed the game) has become iconic. For those people any significant change in her appearance would diminish the enjoyment while playing this game.
The second is that any change that must be made due to technical incompatibility would be much better received if she were updated for a part in a sequel or second story you developed. Mickey Mouse evolved over time, but not during the middle of "Steamboat Willy". If you managed her update while keeping her largely recognizable for a second effort your loyal audience would be much more forgiving. It is likely that they would even be accepting of the changes because they would have a second opportunity to interact with this iconic character in another interesting story.
I hope you find this input useful,
Jack.
 

divingmedic

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I tried giving Mary a graphical update from an older model to a newer model (from gen3 to gen8)
Here is a quick comparison between the two.
They look somewhat different, but I haven't been able to match the tan exactly and there are more polygons in a gen8 model.
Also the hair is not designed for a gen8 model.
What do you think? Something I should continue with the other characters?
All in all I like the newer model ...
I am not saying that I will absolutely change Mary to the newer model, I'm just curious as to what you guys think.

View attachment 3337263 View attachment 3337264

Cheers - Kaffekop
I like the facial features in the older version, but the nipples in the newer version.
 
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Xrisoner

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I tried giving Mary a graphical update from an older model to a newer model (from gen3 to gen8)
Here is a quick comparison between the two.
They look somewhat different, but I haven't been able to match the tan exactly and there are more polygons in a gen8 model.
Also the hair is not designed for a gen8 model.
What do you think? Something I should continue with the other characters?
All in all I like the newer model ...
I am not saying that I will absolutely change Mary to the newer model, I'm just curious as to what you guys think.

View attachment 3337263 View attachment 3337264

Cheers - Kaffekop

The only + point i see in the newer model is the tits/nips color and the model looks more detailed. So if you can fix the color tone on the breasts on the older model, we good.
 

Logan1377

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I think that the newer Mary model's eyes make her look more alive and real to life, but they also make her look younger than she probably should as well. I agree with the others as to the nipples, but will add that her original body is hot as shit, and she's one of my favorite characters in any game.
 
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