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Friends!
This is an online forum. This is where we should talk, argue and create hypotheses.
And here there is silence like at the organist's funeral.
I've already accepted it. The wrong forum. This has never been an 8Muses forum, where the actual discussion of the art of SleepyGimp took place.
I had to put a lot of effort into getting people to at least come here, I left fresh leaks here!
Earlier, in my old posts, I built a lot of theories, we don't have many people here who want to discuss theories. They mostly wait for leaks to silently download. For example: when I publish a file through a file sharing service, you can see how many downloads there are. So, even under the publications of fresh plums, there are 25 maximum 30 likes, file sharing sites can see that they downloaded the file 400 times! (for understanding: only a registered user can download it) Where are they all?

I ask the question: Will Evelina, a) find out about the meeting at the Spa, b) will she share her knowledge with Vi, c) what about Auntie?
I'll try to answer my opinion:
A) Evelina finds out about the flash drive. She knows Trixie has dirt on her. According to some reports, information is diverging from subscribers that: "to Break a Thief"
will be much darker than "Meanwhile in Violet's Dungeon"! Most likely, real torture will be used ...
then, the hunt for Nancy will begin, in order to get hold of the flash drive. I think "to Break a Thief" and the subsequent work will demonstrate to the reader how deep and extensive the power of the Le Fey family is in the structure of the city.

B) I see no reason for Evelyn to withhold information from Vi. In the end, they will both suffer from the publication of compromising material.

C) It's interesting for myself! As I said before: all the previous suspense that has been building up throughout the entire series of "Family Values" is that Aunt Carmilla will find out everything, and inevitable punishment will follow... It turned out to be flushed down the toilet in "to Catch a Thief"!
 

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I am greatly interested in a discussion, just very novice in the lore part of the universe.

The appearance of Pam has really picked my interest back then and I actually invested money. Though never at a level where I could see the polls and influence them, this much money just to be able to vote is not managable for me right now.

I am greatly interested in what will happen to Pam. Will she be sold off like its hinted at in the latest image. SG said he wants to showcase the days in the dungeon and maybe even her life before her capture (dont know what I think about that but I will let Sleepy suprise me here)

What do you think will happen to her, Nafany?
 
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I've already accepted it. The wrong forum. This has never been an 8Muses forum, where the actual discussion of the art of SleepyGimp took place.
I had to put a lot of effort into getting people to at least come here, I left fresh leaks here!
Earlier, in my old posts, I built a lot of theories, we don't have many people here who want to discuss theories. They mostly wait for leaks to silently download. For example: when I publish a file through a file sharing service, you can see how many downloads there are. So, even under the publications of fresh plums, there are 25 maximum 30 likes, file sharing sites can see that they downloaded the file 400 times! (for understanding: only a registered user can download it) Where are they all?



I'll try to answer my opinion:
A) Evelina finds out about the flash drive. She knows Trixie has dirt on her. According to some reports, information is diverging from subscribers that: "to Break a Thief"
will be much darker than "Meanwhile in Violet's Dungeon"! Most likely, real torture will be used ...
then, the hunt for Nancy will begin, in order to get hold of the flash drive. I think "to Break a Thief" and the subsequent work will demonstrate to the reader how deep and extensive the power of the Le Fey family is in the structure of the city.

B) I see no reason for Evelyn to withhold information from Vi. In the end, they will both suffer from the publication of compromising material.

C) It's interesting for myself! As I said before: all the previous suspense that has been building up throughout the entire series of "Family Values" is that Aunt Carmilla will find out everything, and inevitable punishment will follow... It turned out to be flushed down the toilet in "to Catch a Thief"!
I'm not a native speaker, so the answer will be much shorter ;)
The hunt for Nancy. Hmmm... I can't imagine the real threat. Nancy's father is afair lawyer, so she seems to be almost save. Someone written about possible journey of Evie and Nancy, so nothing wrong should happen. Of course I might be wrong, but Nancy is the perfect victim, so she is too precious for every psycho.

About Aunt Carmilla. If she fail, then all structure will either fail, or will be rebuild from ground up, or maybe top down? There are latex nouns, there are more women in the cavern.
Author is no Forsyth (I think he just plays different sport) so either Deus Ex Machina or multilevel intrigue must happen. She will wake up, and after some time her wrath will be epic. Against whom? Time will tell.
So I expect at least third part of the story and as I'd written action is good, but the story really matters.
 
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I am greatly interested in a discussion, just very novice in the lore part of the universe.

The appearance of Pam has really picked my interest back then and I actually invested money. Though never at a level where I could see the polls and influence them, this much money just to be able to vote is not managable for me right now.

I am greatly interested in what will happen to Pam. Will she be sold off like its hinted at in the latest image. SG said he wants to showcase the days in the dungeon and maybe even her life before her capture (dont know what I think about that but I will let Sleepy suprise me here)

What do you think will happen to her, Nafany?

If SG decides to make the universe even darker, then Pam will most likely be sold (most likely they will even show us that hall in the dungeons of the mansion where Leopold swept the floor in the 6th part of the Family Values. This room was clearly created for an auction, look, there is even a cross to securing the "product")
If the current prisoners of the dungeon have a chance to get out, then most likely this will be implemented through character combinations: - Trixie (perhaps she will show fortitude by withstanding torture) Country Girl is the most persistent, unbroken even medically. And maybe Leopold... I am suspicious of his eternally kind smile, it seems to me that he is perfectly aware of everything, and perhaps as a character who knows a lot in total, he can play. At the very least, get the prisoners out of the mansion.
 

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If SG decides to make the universe even darker, then Pam will most likely be sold (most likely they will even show us that hall in the dungeons of the mansion where Leopold swept the floor in the 6th part of the Family Values. This room was clearly created for an auction, look, there is even a cross to securing the "product")
If the current prisoners of the dungeon have a chance to get out, then most likely this will be implemented through character combinations: - Trixie (perhaps she will show fortitude by withstanding torture) Country Girl is the most persistent, unbroken even medically. And maybe Leopold... I am suspicious of his eternally kind smile, it seems to me that he is perfectly aware of everything, and perhaps as a character who knows a lot in total, he can play. At the very least, get the prisoners out of the mansion.
I must say: wow.
How could I miss the "auction room"?
I have to reread everything even taking notes...
Thank you for the hint
 

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I'm not a native speaker, so the answer will be much shorter ;)
The hunt for Nancy. Hmmm... I can't imagine the real threat. Nancy's father is afair lawyer, so she seems to be almost save.
Just the same, I am guided by this, that Nancy will try to transfer the flash drive to the law enforcement agencies of Central-City, and will be faced with the colossal dominance of the Coven members.
Maybe even turn to her father for help... But there is no guarantee that her father is also not part of the cute, urban "Tea Club.".. At least in the role of the Coven's lawyer. Don't forget the Templeton family members have been under the supervision of Le Fey for a long time.


About Aunt Carmilla. If she fail, then all structure will either fail, or will be rebuild from ground up, or maybe top down? There are latex nouns, there are more women in the cavern.
I'm not sure here. It seems to me that the structure of the Coven is quite stable, it is quite possible to stand without Carmilla, Evelina demonstrates at least a desire to compete with her.
 
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Friends!
This is an online forum. This is where we should talk, argue and create hypotheses.
And here there is silence like at the organist's funeral.
I ask the question: Will Evelina, a) find out about the meeting at the Spa, b) will she share her knowledge with Vi, c) what about Auntie?
Honestly, I'm just here for the sex, the action. I don't really care about the story. It could be an incoherent mess as far as I am concerned. At the end of the day it's just a porn comic. lol.
 
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Honestly, I'm just here for the sex, the action. I don't really care about the story. It could be an incoherent mess as far as I am concerned. At the end of the day it's just a porn comic. lol.
OK. We are still living in free country/countries.
I've written my thoughts. You've shared yours.
Win-win situation.
 

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Regarding the plot and the story: Sleepygimp is one of the vanishingly few creators who combines appealing narrative with appealing visuals. There are works of erotica I've saved to my 'stories' folder with better stories (one example is the author Couture on Literotica). And I'd argue that between real life porn, 3d gens, AI, and other 2d artists, I've got visual material on my hard drive that is better than his art...but nobody else combines them at a high level, at least not pertaining to lesbian domination themes. He (and whoever helps him) is doing something that is greater than the sum of its already great parts.

I think many of us would be interested in Sleepygimp's great art if it was just standalone images, but once he started to tell stories I was locked in and subscribed and a fan eagerly checking monthly updates. Then he started Family Values and I unsubbed, but that's a different story.
 

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Did you want a theory? Okay, here's 1 for you.
What if:
I had a theory that Nancy, a direct descendant of Arthur Pendragon (Fairy Tales and Mirrors image)
Freddy, on the other hand, may be a specially bred male descendant of the witch Morgana Le Fey. (assuming that women are mostly born there)
What if it's Carmilla's idea.
Nancy and Freddy, characters who should give common offspring by connecting 2 family trees, giving birth to a perfect witch?
This is due to Carmilla's sensitive attitude towards Freddie (so as not to spoil the material)
And Evelyn is already assigned to Nancy to keep an eye on. Perhaps in the work "Through the looking Glass" Carmilla checked Nancy's condition and her readiness for the upcoming.
What's next? Let's keep building theories.

Here's 2 theories for you:

I was also interested in the work "Brood of Evil". In it, we meet Lady Mircalla. If you look closely, it's an anagram of Carmilla's name...
what if she's actually the same character? Just always as time passes, disappearing and appearing as the daughter of a previous personality?

I also had a theory that Carmilla was an ancient vampire (from literature, fiction: Carmilla is older than Dracula) and this ancient vampire took control of the descendants of Morgana Le Fey.
So who knows, maybe we'll see either Freddie or Evelyn when the truth comes out, in the role of Van Helsing? Ha ha ha...

In the work "Through the looking Glass" in the images in the mansion, the women of the Le Fey family are depicted as dragons \gargoyles... This is how Dracula is artistically depicted. And in the work "Family Values 6" during a hallucinogenic state, Evelina sees Carmilla in this very image of a vampire.
That would at least explain Carmilla's age. (250~300 years old)


What if we connect theory 1 and theory 2:
Carmilla\Mircalla is not a vampire, but suppose she transmigrates her soul into a descendant along the Le Fey line, thereby preserving her eternal youth.
Carmilla\Mircalla conducts a eugenic experiment involving Freddie and Nancy to breed the perfect witch.
So that later, having moved into the vessel of Pendragon and Le Fey, she can become the most powerful witch!
 
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Did you want a theory? Okay, here's 1 for you.
What if:
I had a theory that Nancy, a direct descendant of Arthur Pendragon (Fairy Tales and Mirrors image)
Freddy, on the other hand, may be a specially bred male descendant of the witch Morgana Le Fey. (assuming that women are mostly born there)
What if it's Carmilla's idea.
Nancy and Freddy, characters who should give common offspring by connecting 2 family trees, giving birth to a perfect witch?
This is due to Carmilla's sensitive attitude towards Freddie (so as not to spoil the material)
And Evelyn is already assigned to Nancy to keep an eye on. Perhaps in the work "Through the looking Glass" Carmilla checked Nancy's condition and her readiness for the upcoming.
What's next? Let's keep building theories.

Here's 2 theories for you:

I was also interested in the work "Brood of Evil". In it, we meet Lady Mircalla. If you look closely, it's an anagram of Carmilla's name...
what if she's actually the same character? Just always as time passes, disappearing and appearing as the daughter of a previous personality?

I also had a theory that Carmilla was an ancient vampire (from literature, fiction: Carmilla is older than Dracula) and this ancient vampire took control of the descendants of Morgana Le Fey.
So who knows, maybe we'll see either Freddie or Evelyn when the truth comes out, in the role of Van Helsing? Ha ha ha...

In the work "Through the looking Glass" in the images in the mansion, the women of the Le Fey family are depicted as dragons \gargoyles... This is how Dracula is artistically depicted. And in the work "Family Values 6" during a hallucinogenic state, Evelina sees Carmilla in this very image of a vampire.
That would at least explain Carmilla's age. (250~300 years old)


What if we connect theory 1 and theory 2:
Carmilla\Mircalla is not a vampire, but suppose she transmigrates her soul into a descendant along the Le Fey line, thereby preserving her eternal youth.
Carmilla\Mircalla conducts a eugenic experiment involving Freddie and Nancy to breed the perfect witch.
So that later, having moved into the vessel of Pendragon and Le Fey, she can become the most powerful witch!
Don't ask, because one might get what one asked for.
The hypotesis about vampires appear here and there.
I can't buy it. Just no ;)
I remember some painings at the wall, but now. ;)
If it will be true, it might redefine entire story. I can then imagine Nancy as a sex-fairy with a wand.
So, from my pointeż of view it won't appen.
 

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Don't ask, because one might get what one asked for.
The hypotesis about vampires appear here and there.
I can't buy it. Just no ;)
I remember some painings at the wall, but now. ;)
If it will be true, it might redefine entire story. I can then imagine Nancy as a sex-fairy with a wand.
So, from my pointeż of view it won't appen.

Yes. Most readers are unwilling to accept the mystical point of view.
Wanting to stay just in the logic of a simple bdsm piece.
But. I remind you again. Carmilla.
It breaks the logic of the ordinary perception of the world. There are constant hints from the author that she is over 200 years old. Eternal references to vampires.
What the hell? Maybe she just developed the chemical composition of eternal youth? Evelyn constantly says that: Carmilla surpasses Evelyn in the art of creating chemical compositions. And even the creation of a "chemical cupid" does not bring Evelyn closer to the compositions that Carmilla is capable of creating.
 

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Yes. Most readers are unwilling to accept the mystical point of view.
Wanting to stay just in the logic of a simple bdsm piece.
But. I remind you again. Carmilla.
It breaks the logic of the ordinary perception of the world. There are constant hints from the author that she is over 200 years old. Eternal references to vampires.
What the hell? Maybe she just developed the chemical composition of eternal youth? Evelyn constantly says that: Carmilla surpasses Evelyn in the art of creating chemical compositions. And even the creation of a "chemical cupid" does not bring Evelyn closer to the compositions that Carmilla is capable of creating.
OK.
I can buy the eternal youth potion.
Vampire - no, I can't.
There was a person who written something related to:
I am here just for porn.
You are at the oposite site of the spectrum.
I like (at Sleepy's) work the hypno, potions, and other non realistic mambo jumbo, which putsię me somewhere in between.
So: Sleepy -YES, Gimp - NO! Or the opposite? ;)
 

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OK.
I can buy the eternal youth potion.
Vampire - no, I can't.
There was a person who written something related to:
I am here just for porn.
You are at the oposite site of the spectrum.
I like (at Sleepy's) work the hypno, potions, and other non realistic mambo jumbo, which putsię me somewhere in between.
So: Sleepy -YES, Gimp - NO! Or the opposite? ;)
And then why did SG need to introduce all this devilry with Carmilla and the Le Fey family into the story?
SG could just write a story about rich, urban, bdsm predators and the dark sides of the city floor, and not scatter so many mystical bread crumbs.

No, gentlemen, lovers of simple bdsm stories.
If everything that was happening could just be done by chemistry and hypnosis, then SG would not leave so many "spots", would not waste time on it.
 

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And then why did SG need to introduce all this devilry with Carmilla and the Le Fey family into the story?SG could just write a story about rich, urban, bdsm predators and the dark sides of the city floor, and not scatter so many mystical bread crumbs.No, gentlemen, lovers of simple bdsm stories.If everything that was happening could just be done by chemistry and hypnosis, then SG would not leave so many "spots", would not waste time on it.
Time will tell.

Will anyone take bets? ;P
 

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In the work "Through the looking Glass" in the images in the mansion, the women of the Le Fey family are depicted as dragons \gargoyles... This is how Dracula is artistically depicted. And in the work "Family Values 6" during a hallucinogenic state, Evelina sees Carmilla in this very image of a vampire.
That would at least explain Carmilla's age. (250~300 years old)
'Yoga Hypnosis' is the other series that indicates that we're reading about an alternate and slightly more mystical Earth with supernatural elements. Of course, everything there and in 'Looking Glass' and 'Family Values' can be explained away by drugs and hypnosis.
 

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After reading these comments i seem to be missing a far chunk of the story. Is it all available on the OP?
 

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After reading these comments i seem to be missing a far chunk of the story. Is it all available on the OP?
One must read it very, very carefully. ;)
AFAIK everything is accesible.
Discussion is mainly about Family Values and Trixie future. Nancy and Carnilla just appeared; )
 
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