Comics Collection Sleepygimp Collection [2025-12-04] [Sleepy Gimp/sleepy]

[- Nafany -]

A teaser from the December Pinup.


It looks like he decided to redraw his old "Drinking Games" image in a new way:

 

[ZogZog97]

A teaser from the December Pinup.
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It looks like he decided to redraw his old "Drinking Games" image in a new way:
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I suppose it's going to be Nancy instead of that blondie

 

[- Nafany -]

I suppose it's going to be Nancy instead of that blondie

Do you think he changed this image so much?
It's quite possible. To refresh the old image, use a more familiar character instead of an unknown character.

But within the framework of his prescribed universe, it's hard enough for me to imagine Nancy voluntarily sitting down to play cards with a Bitch Tandem and drinking alcohol with them...

 

[HuntsmanCommunity]

It seems to me that the changes there are more cosmetic than global: more textures, more shadows, less flat shape, higher resolution. It's like remaster, not remake.

 

[ZogZog97]

Do you think he changed this image so much?
It's quite possible. To refresh the old image, use a more familiar character instead of an unknown character.

But within the framework of his prescribed universe, it's hard enough for me to imagine Nancy voluntarily sitting down to play cards with a Bitch Tandem and drinking alcohol with them...

The girl on the left is clearly white compared to the tan blondie, also the position of her arm is no longer the same, her shirt is now green not pink. But it's true it could still be the tan blondie and he just changed the shading.

Also remember the "Valentines menage a trois" picture, we can see on the top right that the three of them were drinking hot chocolote and that two of them were spike.It kind of imply that Nancy was with them for whatever reason

 

[Ernst84]

I needed some time to understand what you mean with "the stories became too dark".

Let's start with the opposite: Our barista girl is accepting Vi's flogging and is now on a coerced path into a life style. This, I understand, is agreed to be not too dark.

But it is too dark, looking at Country Girl who got the bastinado from Vi and tried to escape then reappears behind bars in TCAT lamenting about a lost happy life before becoming a slave, side by side with the missed Miss Park still under subliminal programming and Pam in a tortures stand-up cage. All three were kidnapped, beaten and forced without the choice of a life style decision. This is too dark.

When Nancy and Freddy get drugged, tied and raped it is not too dark, because Freddy could run but decided to stay and Nancy doesn't feel violated, it is simply commented with "I have to be more careful, it happened again". This is regarded as okay as well.

Now Trixie is on the line, will she be beaten and raped or coerced and hypnotised to accept lesbian kinky sex, which would be okay again?

So, if all these things are okay and can continue, there must be something else why they end with FV10 and RT.
Because, it is easy to turn the story out of the dark in regards to CG, Pam and Miss Park providing release or life style scenarios. Like Pam can join the convent, Miss Park has her on-line friend (monitor in Subliminal Messages) and CG is now addicted from too much love potion to stay a gimp and pair up with e.g. Leopold returning to the country, or she can trick the Barista in the gimp suit and escape picking up her life or, or, ...

Bottom line I am not convinced from any explanation, other than that sleepy is tired of this universe and lets it slowly die while trying to build a new universe keeping up the income from the fans.

 

[ZogZog97]

I needed some time to understand what you mean with "the stories became too dark".

We are just quoting what Sleepy said, the stories were just getting too dark and he did not like working on them anymore.


Now is it the whole truth, personally I don't think so.
Like you said I think he mostly got tired of this universe. Sleepy said that "To Reform A Thief" was always thought as the end point of the Nancy saga, but I'm pretty sure he mentioned that Nancy would get a new roommate, and also a whole comics about Nancy and Country girl at the farm.

 

[- Nafany -]

I needed some time to understand what you mean with "the stories became too dark".

When Nancy and Freddy get drugged, tied and raped it is not too dark, because Freddy could run but decided to stay and Nancy doesn't feel violated, it is simply commented with "I have to be more careful, it happened again". This is regarded as okay as well.

Now Trixie is on the line, will she be beaten and raped or coerced and hypnotised to accept lesbian kinky sex, which would be okay again?

However, we do not consider this acceptable in this forum.
On my own, I can only add to your post that it was I who repeatedly drew attention to the fact that what is happening to Freddie is just very cruel.
Considering what kind of hypnotic programs Evelyn is integrated into his mind...

Regarding Nancy, the story was originally tied to her, and since she always "walked away" from the Bitch Tandem without obvious, long-lasting consequences, it erased the thrill and calmed many with what was happening to her...
Personally, I have a suspicion that her "simplicity" (stupidity) it could just be the result, the consequences of various drugs in the "games" of Bitch Tandem with Nancy.

And what happened to Trixie is exactly the same, clearly traceable "darkness".
A very clear course that Sleepy took a few years ago regarding all the victims of the Bitch Tandem. a few years ago.

But you need to understand that every reader of Sleepy determines the depth of the work for himself...
you don't have to empathize with the characters. For many, these are just pictures.

 

[HuntsmanCommunity]

It's a shame that after so many years, Sleepy hasn't been able to fill all the plot holes in his story. And judging by his fatigue with this universe, it's unlikely he ever will. While the storyline between LTIN and RF is relatively dense, and these stories are generally well-written and develop the lore, the first few years of Nancy's adventures are rather understated. It's like some connecting threads are missing. We know very little about Evie's or Aunt Carmilla's early years.

If To Reform A Thief was always thought as the end point of the Nancy saga it's ok although judging by the events taking place, the development seems to be self-evident but I would like Sleepy to make more intermediate stories so that his universe looks more coherent, and not like a stub with a good, solid middle, but an extremely leaky beginning and absolutely no ending. Because if we assume that Nancy's Saga is first and foremost a comic with a single, overarching plot, and not just a collection of panels with BDSM and hypnosis, then it seems to me that it is still missing some chapters. Basically, Sleepy only needs to make a few stories and clarify its chronology for the puzzle to finally come together. Definitely finish Slumber Party Mystery, make the story of Nancy's first encounter with the bitch tandem, which would take place before the events of Mystery of the Vanished Heiress and would set the stage for the whole story. So that we weren't just told what we learned in TBAT, but also shown. (It's strange that Sleepy didn't add two or three additional pages of flashback. It would have left fewer questions.)
And finally, some kind of coherent epilogue for Kayla.

It's clear that, in hindsight, Sleepy is unlikely to add depth or nuance to Vi, for example. It's long been clear to me that she's evil "just because," but it would be interesting to learn more about Aunt Carmilla and her Tea Club. Because for now, as Evelina herself noted (which is very ironic, as this can easily be projected onto the entire Saga as a whole) - despite all the pathos and mystery with all these covens and so on, it all really does look like a bunch of ladies over 40, playing with their permissiveness, who just love to fuck without restraint. This may be a good thing overall, but if Sleepy originally intended this to be the case, it still begs the question: was there any point in focusing on the story at all? Perhaps this is another reason to think.

 

[ZogZog97]

This may be a good thing overall, but if Sleepy originally intended this to be the case, it still begs the question: was there any point in focusing on the story at all? Perhaps this is another reason to think.

"Brood of Evil" made the Le Fey and Templeton linked through centuries. He clearly had something big in mind. It's possible that we'll have lots of answer in TRAT as Nancy will have a big role in that part.
I will also add that Sleepy has always been weirdly protective of his story, so much so that for the polls he always rejected "what if" ideas (Subliminal Message being the only exception).

 

[PadroPedro]

I don't understand the "too dark stuff either", I've said this before, not because his stories aren't dark, they are, but because they aren't any darker now than they were in the past. I mean one of his earlier stories is about Evie and Vi roofing a girl and spending an entire night raping her, then they lie to her saying she did all that willingly when she wakes up with no memory, and later on they roofie both the boyfriend and her and spend another night raping both of them now. How is that not dark?

He says his earlier stuff was lighthearted and fun, no they weren’t, Evie and Vi do have fun and crack jokes and are overall silly, but that does not make any of what happen in any of his stories lighthearted, if anything it makes it even darker since the duo is always completely remorseless and don't give a damn about their victims.

 

[azzyggun]

I don't understand the "too dark stuff either", I've said this before, not because his stories aren't dark, they are, but because they aren't any darker now than they were in the past. I mean one of his earlier stories is about Evie and Vi roofing a girl and spending an entire night raping her, then they lie to her saying she did all that willingly when she wakes up with no memory, and later on they roofie both the boyfriend and her and spend another night raping both of them now. How is that not dark?

He says his earlier stuff was lighthearted and fun, no they weren’t, Evie and Vi do have fun and crack jokes and are overall silly, but that does not make any of what happen in any of his stories lighthearted, if anything it makes it even darker since the duo is always completely remorseless and don't give a damn about their victims.

It's somewhat subjective (I think back to that Supreme Court ruling about how you'll know pornography when you see it) but don't you get a different feeling from To Break a Thief than from Roofie Colada? Remember how Country Girl was treated in Meanwhile In The Dungeon? A few years ago he started to introduce BDSM damage-dealing stuff like whips, ass spreaders, electricity and other such things that weren't common in his earlier works, and maybe that represents his darker mindset that he drifted into.

 

[- Nafany -]

It's clear that, in hindsight, Sleepy is unlikely to add depth or nuance to Vi, for example. It's long been clear to me that she's evil "just because," but it would be interesting to learn more about Aunt Carmilla and her Tea Club. Because for now, as Evelina herself noted (which is very ironic, as this can easily be projected onto the entire Saga as a whole) - despite all the pathos and mystery with all these covens and so on, it all really does look like a bunch of ladies over 40, playing with their permissiveness, who just love to fuck without restraint. This may be a good thing overall, but if Sleepy originally intended this to be the case, it still begs the question: was there any point in focusing on the story at all? Perhaps this is another reason to think.

If I could, I would give your post 5 likes! But unfortunately, I can only put 1.
In just one post, you've formalized everything that I've been talking about for so long on this forum...

I honestly don't hope that Sleepy will have time to answer these questions, for the last 3 comics that he has left to draw in this universe.
You've made a good point: if Carmilla's tea club turns out to be just a gathering of rich ladies suffering from money and hedonism...
for me, this will be the biggest facup of Sleepy...

I don't understand the "too dark stuff either", I've said this before, not because his stories aren't dark, they are, but because they aren't any darker now than they were in the past. I mean one of his earlier stories is about Evie and Vi roofing a girl and spending an entire night raping her, then they lie to her saying she did all that willingly when she wakes up with no memory, and later on they roofie both the boyfriend and her and spend another night raping both of them now. How is that not dark?

He says his earlier stuff was lighthearted and fun, no they weren’t, Evie and Vi do have fun and crack jokes and are overall silly, but that does not make any of what happen in any of his stories lighthearted, if anything it makes it even darker since the duo is always completely remorseless and don't give a damn about their victims.

And no one says that the early works were "easy" in terms of what was done on the pages of these works.
It's just that in certain early works, all the consequences for the victims of the "Bitch Tandem" ended with a sore head and a sore ass.
Without further consequences.
But with the advent of "Meanwhile In The Dungeon", everything changed...
Then they began to demonstrate the most severe psychological breakdown of a person.
Locking a girl in a drawer for a day or more. (Country Girl)
Forcibly detaining a person in inhumane conditions for more than a year (Country Girl)
The destruction of the human psyche. Turning into a Sex-obsessed Animal (Pam)
Selling people in the slave market. (Josie)
The destruction of human life, to create a personal slave. (Kayla)
And if we remember about Leopold...
Do you feel the difference? Between what's going on at Roofie Colada and everything after that?
Everything has long grown out of the concept of sexual bdsm, into the brutal torture of people...
Sleepy himself admitted that he no longer likes Evelyn and Violet, that he loses empathy for them.